Coaches Film Analysis: 2019 Season

In the cutups by thl and jonnydel's video, you see the same open receivers. Hard to imagine that a top QB won't hit those all day. But I don't know how normal this is for everyone. Do you guys think this is something to be worried about, or does it happen all the time?

Originally posted by eastcoastfortyniner:

In the cutups by thl and jonnydel's video, you see the same open receivers. Hard to imagine that a top QB won't hit those all day. But I don't know how normal this is for everyone. Do you guys think this is something to be worried about, or does it happen all the time?

Guys are open most plays in the NFL, the trick is not letting the right guys open at the right time. Making QB's get to 4th and 5th reads regularly. The last play in my vid, the corner route is am alert against man but is then forgotten vs zone, so a QB isnt supposed to eve look there, that means the receiver on the curl is 4th on the play. That's where pass rush works. You dont give a QB time to get there.

Originally posted by eastcoastfortyniner:
In the cutups by thl and jonnydel's video, you see the same open receivers. Hard to imagine that a top QB won't hit those all day. But I don't know how normal this is for everyone. Do you guys think this is something to be worried about, or does it happen all the time?

It happens more than we might think. QBs are coached to make their reads/progressions and don't get the benefit of a bird's eye view. So they look where they are supposed to look. Then factor in an excellent pass rush which speeds up everything and QBs will miss seeing open targets. It happens to the best of them, not just Kyle Allen, Baker Mayfield, etc.

But In the case of the two deep bombs that Allen attempted and failed, I think that is bad QBing. The primary read there is the yellow deep Over route. It's a very common way to beat Cover3, yet he got greedy and tried to hit the deep Post which is really supposed to be a clearing route to get the Over route open.

With so many clear-out designed routes, I'm surprised we don't see the halfback circle route as much anymore. It was awesome when Watters comes around and makes the catch almost as if he ran a skinny post and then he bursts straight upfield for at least 15 yards.

Kittle makes a living over the middle and safeties are aware of this. I think it was last week where Kittle nearly got destroyed by a safety on a route over the middle that was thrown incomplete. It happened again this game where the safety came in high and there was a personal foul called. When this play occurred I was a bit agitated at why Jimmy put Kittle in harms way. But there was a reason why this play unfolded that way it did.
1Q 2nd & 8.
vs Cover3, Kittle looks to hit the seam as the 49ers send three verticals to horizontally stretch the middle deep safety.


Jimmy drops back and looks to his right to keep the blue safety in the middle of the field. Kittle gives a little nod to the outside then will break upfield.


Jimmy should be throwing the ball right at this moment, but is busy evading the edge pressure given up so his body isn't in a throwing position. This delay allows the blue safety to see Kittle and start moving over to that side of the field.


Now Jimmy is mid throwing motion and the blue safety has a beat on the play.


Safety gets there just as the ball gets there. Luckily Kittle is a badass tough guy and isn't hurt.


+29

Originally posted by thl408:
Kittle makes a living over the middle and safeties are aware of this. I think it was last week where Kittle nearly got destroyed by a safety on a route over the middle that was thrown incomplete. It happened again this game where the safety came in high and there was a personal foul called. When this play occurred I was a bit agitated at why Jimmy put Kittle in harms way. But there was a reason why this play unfolded that way it did.
1Q 2nd & 8.
vs Cover3, Kittle looks to hit the seam as the 49ers send three verticals to horizontally stretch the middle deep safety.


Jimmy drops back and looks to his right to keep the blue safety in the middle of the field. Kittle gives a little nod to the outside then will break upfield.


Jimmy should be throwing the ball right at this moment, but is busy evading the edge pressure given up so his body isn't in a throwing position. This delay allows the blue safety to see Kittle and start moving over to that side of the field.


Now Jimmy is mid throwing motion and the blue safety has a beat on the play.


Safety gets there just as the ball gets there. Luckily Kittle is a badass tough guy and isn't hurt.


+29

I loved the way he looked the safety off on this play, he did really, really well looking off defenders in this game. If he doesn't have to avoid that rush Tre Boston isn't nearly as close when the ball arrives and Kittle might be going to the house.

3Q 2nd & 4
Same idea here as the previous cutup, trying to hit the seam in Cover 3.


Jimmy drops back and looks to his right to hold the blue safety in the middle of the field for Kittle to attack the seam.


This time, protection holds up well and Jimmy has a clean pocket to throw this pass on time, before the safety can move over towards Kittle. This results in a clean catch without Kittle getting popped.


+25

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I loved the way he looked the safety off on this play, he did really, really well looking off defenders in this game. If he doesn't have to avoid that rush Tre Boston isn't nearly as close when the ball arrives and Kittle might be going to the house.

My reaction watching that play live was "noooo" because I thought Kittle might have gotten rocked. Luckily he got up quickly and was fine. Having ESanders opposite Kittle can prevent safeties from cheating towards Kittle. I don't want another near heart attack watching Kittle get popped like that. I also get scared when DBs go low to tackle Kittle.

^^^just checkout the explosives. It's beautiful. I really do get that good old feeling I used to with Joe and Steve where I just expected to put up points. It's really been over 20 years since I felt that way about an offense of ours (nod given to Kaps 10 game stretch in '12).

Originally posted by jonnydel:


A little late to the party but here's the start. First defensive series of the game, IMO, set the tone.

Great explanation of the vertical trail concept (what I've referred to as Switch Verticals) and showing how offenses have burned the 49ers in the past with it.
Also Cover3 match. Fangio did this a lot and I think using pattern match is the way to go. Every defense pattern matches , but how often and to what level of complexity is what each defense weighs into their scheme. I think Joe Woods has a big hand in teaching those pattern match principles.

Originally posted by braap49er:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by thl408:
3Q 3rd & 10
CAR dials up the same route combination, this time Tartt is the deep safety. Same things are happening, Cover3, Tartt shades to the wide side of the field and the passing strength of CAR's formation.


Tartt is reading the QB's eyes and starts to move over to the other side of the field.


Weakside hook defender is Ward and he does not see the deep crosser from yellow. That's twice the weakside hook defender failed to match the deep crosser. Luckily, Allen is in YOLO mode and goes deep, again bypassing the open yellow deep crosser. Allen has yet to start his throwing motion but Tartt is already quickly moving over to cover the deep Post.


Tartt takes too shallow of an angle but quickly adjusts...


in time to be in position where had the ball been on target, Tartt would have been able to contest the throw. I don't think too highly of Tartt in open space but here he plays this very well showing good recovery speed.

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Just so that both plays are on the same page, here's the Ward play again from the previous page. For comparison of the angles taken by the two safeties.

Allen had time to hit the crossing route on both of these. Why not do that ...

Because we were in his head.

no because he's bad and inexperienced.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by eastcoastfortyniner:
In the cutups by thl and jonnydel's video, you see the same open receivers. Hard to imagine that a top QB won't hit those all day. But I don't know how normal this is for everyone. Do you guys think this is something to be worried about, or does it happen all the time?

It happens more than we might think. QBs are coached to make their reads/progressions and don't get the benefit of a bird's eye view. So they look where they are supposed to look. Then factor in an excellent pass rush which speeds up everything and QBs will miss seeing open targets. It happens to the best of them, not just Kyle Allen, Baker Mayfield, etc.

But In the case of the two deep bombs that Allen attempted and failed, I think that is bad QBing. The primary read there is the yellow deep Over route. It's a very common way to beat Cover3, yet he got greedy and tried to hit the deep Post which is really supposed to be a clearing route to get the Over route open.

okay so with that said, to answer his question, is this something we should be worried about with people like Wilson, Brees, and Rodgers coming up?

Originally posted by thl408:
Kittle makes a living over the middle and safeties are aware of this. I think it was last week where Kittle nearly got destroyed by a safety on a route over the middle that was thrown incomplete. It happened again this game where the safety came in high and there was a personal foul called. When this play occurred I was a bit agitated at why Jimmy put Kittle in harms way. But there was a reason why this play unfolded that way it did.
1Q 2nd & 8.
vs Cover3, Kittle looks to hit the seam as the 49ers send three verticals to horizontally stretch the middle deep safety.


Jimmy drops back and looks to his right to keep the blue safety in the middle of the field. Kittle gives a little nod to the outside then will break upfield.


Jimmy should be throwing the ball right at this moment, but is busy evading the edge pressure given up so his body isn't in a throwing position. This delay allows the blue safety to see Kittle and start moving over to that side of the field.


Now Jimmy is mid throwing motion and the blue safety has a beat on the play.


Safety gets there just as the ball gets there. Luckily Kittle is a badass tough guy and isn't hurt.


+29

this is an example why we need our starting OT's back

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Some repeats in this but I wanted to show these plays all in succession so we could see a clear pattern of how Shanny attacked Keuchly.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

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Some repeats in this but I wanted to show these plays all in succession so we could see a clear pattern of how Shanny attacked Keuchly.

Just awesome breakdowns there