Robert Saleh - Head Coach - Tennessee Titans

Not impressed with the Moore handling.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Heroism:

This is the type of stuff they adjust to during the week of the game. Something an experienced coach like Kocurek will 100% identify very quick.

Gotcha. I'm trying to keep it all real lol we blew a lot of leads last year because of coaching decisions imo.

Right. I think the approach of, "this is what we do, try to beat us", is going to change. That's what the Pete Carroll Cover3 scheme was about. Now that there is more to the playbook, I think the gameplan going into each week will have more variability, and the added experience to the D coaching staff will provide justification to the variability. Meaning Woods and Koceruk will give good input into why/how gameplans should be adjusted.

Thl, early on when we learned that we were going to have a "coordinated D" , i posted the question does that mean a coordinated game plan or are we going to have the DC(a LB coach) + the DL coach(Kocurek) + the DB coach( Woods) all involved in calling the D plays in real time?

Game planning should be relatively easy to bring off. But a coordinated play calling? That one seems kind of far fetched...unless S, K and W have their own intercom and can discuss the next D play and set. It is really hard to imagine coordinated playcalling, unless they do it when the D is off the field.

Do you see any chance of K or W calling plays while our D is on the field? And if so, how exactly do you see that happening? Simple hand signals could work to just signify "play pass " or "play run" to Saleh for the upcoming play. Or is the coordinated D just merely K and D input for gameplanning?

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Not impressed with the Moore handling.

How should they be handling him?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Heroism:
This is the type of stuff they adjust to during the week of the game. Something an experienced coach like Kocurek will 100% identify very quick.

Gotcha. I'm trying to keep it all real lol we blew a lot of leads last year because of coaching decisions imo.

Right. I think the approach of, "this is what we do, try to beat us", is going to change. That's what the Pete Carroll Cover3 scheme was about. Now that there is more to the playbook, I think the gameplan going into each week will have more variability, and the added experience to the D coaching staff will provide justification to the variability. Meaning Woods and Koceruk will give good input into why/how gameplans should be adjusted.

Thl, early on when we learned that we were going to have a "coordinated D" , i posted the question does that mean a coordinated game plan or are we going to have the DC(a LB coach) + the DL coach(Kocurek) + the DB coach( Woods) all involved in calling the D plays in real time?

Game planning should be relatively easy to bring off. But a coordinated play calling? That one seems kind of far fetched...unless S, K and W have their own intercom and can discuss the next D play and set. It is really hard to imagine coordinated playcalling, unless they do it when the D is off the field.

Do you see any chance of K or W calling plays while our D is on the field? And if so, how exactly do you see that happening? Simple hand signals could work to just signify "play pass " or "play run" to Saleh for the upcoming play. Or is the coordinated D just merely K and D input for gameplanning?

Three people calling plays would make it very clunky. Obviously I'm not in the room so this is all speculation (maybe I can ask Saleh if I see him at the kids soccer practice again), but I think Kocurek is there to teach technique, Woods is there to help with gameplanning against the opposing team's passing attack, but it's Saleh that will finalize the gameplan and call the plays on Sunday. Woods will most likely give input throughout the game on what adjustments to make.

Saleh's past experience has been centered around the front 7, so Woods is here to provide experience on the backend. That, and the team was probably fed up with Hafley thinking he can teach rookies new positions.

Originally posted by thl408:

Three people calling plays would make it very clunky. Obviously I'm not in the room so this is all speculation (maybe I can ask Saleh if I see him at the kids soccer practice again), but I think Kocurek is there to teach technique, Woods is there to help with gameplanning against the opposing team's passing attack, but it's Saleh that will finalize the gameplan and call the plays on Sunday. Woods will most likely give input throughout the game on what adjustments to make.

Saleh's past experience has been centered around the front 7, so Woods is here to provide experience on the backend. That, and the team was probably fed up with Hafley thinking he can teach rookies new positions.

Agree, and also add in Zigonina moving a DT to rush DE.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Heroism:
This is the type of stuff they adjust to during the week of the game. Something an experienced coach like Kocurek will 100% identify very quick.

Gotcha. I'm trying to keep it all real lol we blew a lot of leads last year because of coaching decisions imo.

Right. I think the approach of, "this is what we do, try to beat us", is going to change. That's what the Pete Carroll Cover3 scheme was about. Now that there is more to the playbook, I think the gameplan going into each week will have more variability, and the added experience to the D coaching staff will provide justification to the variability. Meaning Woods and Koceruk will give good input into why/how gameplans should be adjusted.

Thl, early on when we learned that we were going to have a "coordinated D" , i posted the question does that mean a coordinated game plan or are we going to have the DC(a LB coach) + the DL coach(Kocurek) + the DB coach( Woods) all involved in calling the D plays in real time?

Game planning should be relatively easy to bring off. But a coordinated play calling? That one seems kind of far fetched...unless S, K and W have their own intercom and can discuss the next D play and set. It is really hard to imagine coordinated playcalling, unless they do it when the D is off the field.

Do you see any chance of K or W calling plays while our D is on the field? And if so, how exactly do you see that happening? Simple hand signals could work to just signify "play pass " or "play run" to Saleh for the upcoming play. Or is the coordinated D just merely K and D input for gameplanning?

Three people calling plays would make it very clunky. Obviously I'm not in the room so this is all speculation (maybe I can ask Saleh if I see him at the kids soccer practice again), but I think Kocurek is there to teach technique, Woods is there to help with gameplanning against the opposing team's passing attack, but it's Saleh that will finalize the gameplan and call the plays on Sunday. Woods will most likely give input throughout the game on what adjustments to make.

Saleh's past experience has been centered around the front 7, so Woods is here to provide experience on the backend. That, and the team was probably fed up with Hafley thinking he can teach rookies new positions.

Just to throw in my 2 cents on the whole discussion:
As far as moving away from a predictable cover 3 - I don't see us moving away from cover 3, but I do see us varying the box safety side, whether to the strong or weak. This changes your matchups. One of the problems we ran into last year was it was easy for teams to isolate certain weak links in coverage. For example, teams could easily isolate a RB on Malcolm Smith when he was in the game because it was very predictable that he'd be the curl/flat to the box safety or strong safety side. Or, they could isolate a TE or RB or WR on Elijah Lee in hook/curl. Now, you don't have to tip your hand to the side of the box safety and so it makes key reads harder as they're going to have to be post-snap most times. Still cover 3 but you move around who is playing what zones within that cover 3. The other side is, ideally we're getting more heat on the QB so we won't get burned by players jumping and matching routes.

As far as playcalling responsibilities: While the DC will be calling the plays there are all sorts of adjustments during the game that those position coaches will help with. They'll be looking at how teams are attacking field side vs boundary, TE chipping, who the opposing teams is targeting in the run game with double teams or trying to get to overcommit. Some teams will have various eyes all on those things, relay that to the DC who then communicates those adjustments to the on-field playcaller if they need to in the middle of a series(I.E. D-line slants, stunts, alignment variance) Whereas what it sounds like now is that Kocurek will be able to call those in some form or fashion for the D-line. If he see's that the opposing team never runs a triangle passing concept to the boundary side he can determine who will be the DE and where they will be lined up in that situation. For example, if they see that they won't run passing concepts involving a TE to the boundary side of the field, if the TE lines up on that side, he can put Bosa away from the TE and have Armstead or Thomas on that side so that if it's a run, he has a good run stopper there or if it's a pass he now has Bosa on a 2 way go without the TE being able to help or chip.

That's one less thing for the DC to worry about. Same goes as far as slants, stunts and changing up alignments.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Finally, some confirmation on what I suspected all along. Saleh 'could' nix the amount W9 is run but I highly doubt it. Remember, coach Z ran the DL including personnel groupings last year. ShanaLynch specifically competed hard and won the Kocurek sweepstakes and then subsequently, went and got personnel to match his aggressive alignment. This is going to be a predominant alignment, early and often, base and nickel.

This is from a player who played in the W9 under Kocurek:

There are some HIGH exceptions for the @49ers D Line in 2019..@flu_dot_com keeps it 💯👀 pic.twitter.com/ZjugRppCYp

— NFL Total Access (@NFLTotalAccess) July 28, 2019

Andre! Awesome take here. How often does Kocurek use the wide-9 alignment in base and nickel/dime? With Bosa, Ford, Buckner and Thomas/Armstead, how often to you expect it to be used with the 49ers current personnel?

— NCommand (@NCommand55) July 29, 2019

Very often. Alot will defend on the the coordinator, but we used it effectively against the pass & run. What it takes to be effective against the run is a really good three technique DT that can penetrate upfield & maintain his gap. if not, it's succeptible against the run

— Andre Fluellen (@flu_dot_com) July 30, 2019

Andre is the man!!!

More answers...explains why Day may be starting over Jones right now?

One more question Andre, if possible. We know Buckner will wreck shop at 3T but with W9, are there essentially two true 3T's 1-gapping or is one player still playing more 1T and two-gapping? A mix inside?

— NCommand (@NCommand55) July 30, 2019

1) So another really important position is the 2tech (playing either head up on the guard or shaded inside). In all actuality, the 2texh needs the be the most explosive interior player, the 3tech needs to have a little more balance & control. Here is why...

— Andre Fluellen (@flu_dot_com) July 31, 2019

2) playing a 1T puts alot of stress on the LB that may have the b gap, because there is ALOT of distance between the 1t and the 5t (defensive end). Playing the 2T (or 2i) helps balance out the integrity of the defense...

— Andre Fluellen (@flu_dot_com) July 31, 2019

3) so the 2tech has to be EXTREMELY quick because he's almost at a disadvantage to the offensive guard to get cut out of his gap. So it's all one gap, no reading or 2 gapping! In the words of Kris Kocurek "read is a 4 letter word!"

— Andre Fluellen (@flu_dot_com) July 31, 2019

Sooo, when are we getting the "Pin Post" feature?

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just to throw in my 2 cents on the whole discussion:
As far as moving away from a predictable cover 3 - I don't see us moving away from cover 3, but I do see us varying the box safety side, whether to the strong or weak. This changes your matchups. One of the problems we ran into last year was it was easy for teams to isolate certain weak links in coverage. For example, teams could easily isolate a RB on Malcolm Smith when he was in the game because it was very predictable that he'd be the curl/flat to the box safety or strong safety side. Or, they could isolate a TE or RB or WR on Elijah Lee in hook/curl. Now, you don't have to tip your hand to the side of the box safety and so it makes key reads harder as they're going to have to be post-snap most times. Still cover 3 but you move around who is playing what zones within that cover 3. The other side is, ideally we're getting more heat on the QB so we won't get burned by players jumping and matching routes.

As far as playcalling responsibilities: While the DC will be calling the plays there are all sorts of adjustments during the game that those position coaches will help with. They'll be looking at how teams are attacking field side vs boundary, TE chipping, who the opposing teams is targeting in the run game with double teams or trying to get to overcommit. Some teams will have various eyes all on those things, relay that to the DC who then communicates those adjustments to the on-field playcaller if they need to in the middle of a series(I.E. D-line slants, stunts, alignment variance) Whereas what it sounds like now is that Kocurek will be able to call those in some form or fashion for the D-line. If he see's that the opposing team never runs a triangle passing concept to the boundary side he can determine who will be the DE and where they will be lined up in that situation. For example, if they see that they won't run passing concepts involving a TE to the boundary side of the field, if the TE lines up on that side, he can put Bosa away from the TE and have Armstead or Thomas on that side so that if it's a run, he has a good run stopper there or if it's a pass he now has Bosa on a 2 way go without the TE being able to help or chip.

That's one less thing for the DC to worry about. Same goes as far as slants, stunts and changing up alignments.

Did Saleh make comments indicating the bolded? Coverage dictates the run fits so I don't think Koceruk will have freedom to make changes on his own. It *should* be a collaboration with Saleh having the final say.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Sooo, when are we getting the "Pin Post" feature?

I'm still getting around to posting a few cutups about the 2i in this wide9 front. I'll put it in the Concepts thread along with those tweets. I keep getting sidetracked at night.

AZ with their backs to their own endzone comes out in...10 personnel. A lot of 10 and 11 personnel. This is going to be exciting to watch lol. Kyler Murray is fun.

Sticking to my prediction that they're either going to torch our secondary or our DL is going to eat them alive. No inbetween.

Didn't realize how big Saleh is until looking at some recent photos. Looks like he could play LB for us.

Originally posted by Heroism:

AZ with their backs to their own endzone comes out in...10 personnel. A lot of 10 and 11 personnel. This is going to be exciting to watch lol. Kyler Murray is fun.

Sticking to my prediction that they're either going to torch our secondary or our DL is going to eat them alive. No inbetween.

Seriously. The NFCW is going to ridiculously interesting.

Originally posted by NCommand:

A new schematic aspect of the 49ers defense to watch tonight: Their 3 linebacker spots are now essentially interchangeable. The Sam LB is no longer a disguised pass-rushing d-linemen but rather a flipped Will.

Detailed at this link: https://t.co/D5RnNSoHJE pic.twitter.com/bGfL1vepEP

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 10, 2019

This is the #1 thing I'm interested in. And that's a beautiful description of the new SAM: "A flipped Will." Perfect.