49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

Can't be the same Ben Johnson that lost to Kyle in the playoffs and lost in a shootout to him recently. Can't be. Then Mike McDonald....who had won 24 regular season games in two years (impressive). And Kyle, who has won 18 over the same stretch, so Seattle is the better team. But if so, how is it that Kyle is 2 - 2 in the regular season against McDonald in spite of Seattle clearly having the better team?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Fire Shanahan and replace him with who? In the revolving world of these recycling head coaches, I don't find anyone who is at least interesting.

Lol I love it every time this pops up...

Just sign shanahan to a lifetime contract at this point because nobody could ever replace him or come close.

With all due respect, I will appreciate it if anyone can just skip the platitude and just come up with an answer to who's coach is considered a viable replacement for Shanahan.

Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Hahaha! I was thinking about these two, too(young and rising star coaches who you can keep for at least ten years). Can we poach them?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

In his first year as head coach he took his team to OT against a Super Bowl winner. The LA Rams were a far better team than the Bears and he had McVay on the brink…

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Real high quality article there.

Lol at anyone giving a f**k about what some washed up community college coach thinks.

lol, seriously this guy is such a douche

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

In his first year as head coach he took his team to OT against a Super Bowl winner. The LA Rams were a far better team than the Bears and he had McVay on the brink…

your boy McVay coached a terrible game though. Bad play calling, Should have lost, and got bailed out by Caleb's interceptions.

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Fire Shanahan and replace him with who? In the revolving world of these recycling head coaches, I don't find anyone who is at least interesting.

Lol I love it every time this pops up...

Just sign shanahan to a lifetime contract at this point because nobody could ever replace him or come close.

With all due respect, I will appreciate it if anyone can just skip the platitude and just come up with an answer to who's coach is considered a viable replacement for Shanahan.

Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Hahaha! I was thinking about these two, too(young and rising star coaches who you can keep for at least ten years). Can we poach them?

The point is when these guys posed the question last year and we said Ben Johnson, they laughed. Two years ago when they posed that question and we said Mike Macdonald they laughed. In essence it's become a ridiculous argument. They'll poo poo any name you give and make excuses for Kyle. Then that person will get a head coaching gig, do well and these guys will ask the same question again the following year. Lot of Kyle apologists in the ranks, but I'm starting to see small chinks in Kyle's armor

Is no one going to talk about Ben Johnson's inability to take the 3 points time and time again in the playoffs?

Imagine if we lost a 3 point game because our coach did that in the playoffs multiple times.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

In his first year as head coach he took his team to OT against a Super Bowl winner. The LA Rams were a far better team than the Bears and he had McVay on the brink…

your boy McVay coached a terrible game though. Bad play calling, Should have lost, and got bailed out by Caleb's interceptions.

Championship coaches find ways to win. They don't take the ball first in OT playing for a third possession while the guy on the other sideline is planning on playing just two…

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Is no one going to talk about Ben Johnson's inability to take the 3 points time and time again in the playoffs?

Imagine if we lost a 3 point game because our coach did that in the playoffs multiple times.

Kyle took 3 points multiple times on Saturday night and got blown out 41-6…

Originally posted by DrEll:
Championship coaches find ways to win. They don't take the ball first in OT playing for a third possession while the guy on the other sideline is planning on playing just two…

Lol. It doesn't help your argument to be dishonest.

This has been argued about to death. You make the decision factoring the possibility of the 3rd possession. This is why it's a 50-50 analytical split.

The goal was to score and get a stop and end the game in two possessions, just like it would be if you defer (in reverse order). Our biggest issue wasn't that we received. It was that we didn't score a TD and then allowed one.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Mike Macdonald
Ben Johnson

Johnson looked utterly outmatched in the playoffs.

Can't be the same Ben Johnson that lost to Kyle in the playoffs and lost in a shootout to him recently. Can't be. Then Mike McDonald....who had won 24 regular season games in two years (impressive). And Kyle, who has won 18 over the same stretch, so Seattle is the better team. But if so, how is it that Kyle is 2 - 2 in the regular season against McDonald in spite of Seattle clearly having the better team?

I'll concede that Ben Johnson is the reason why Detroit lost to the 49ers in the NFCC…if you concede Kyle Shanahan is the reason why Atlanta lost to NE in that Super Bowl. Deal ?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Championship coaches find ways to win. They don't take the ball first in OT playing for a third possession while the guy on the other sideline is planning on playing just two…

Lol. It doesn't help your argument to be dishonest.

This has been argued about to death. You make the decision factoring the possibility of the 3rd possession. This is why it's a 50-50 analytical split.

The goal was to score and get a stop and end the game in two possessions, just like it would be if you defer (in reverse order). Our biggest issue wasn't that we received. It was that we didn't score a TD and then allowed one.

From the man himself:

"It's just something we talked about," Shanahan said. "None of us have a ton of experience with it. But we went through all the analytics and talked to those guys. We just thought it would be better. We wanted the ball third. If both teams matched and scored, we wanted to be the ones who had the chance to go win. Got that field goal, so knew we had to hold them to at least a field goal, and if we did, then we thought it was in our hands after that."

Reid had no plans for a third possession. He was going to end the game in two, regardless of whether we scored a FG or TD.

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'll concede that Ben Johnson is the reason why Detroit lost to the 49ers in the NFCC…if you concede Kyle Shanahan is the reason why Atlanta lost to NE in that Super Bowl. Deal ?

This is the depth of your football analysis. Generic comparisons.

I think Ben Johnson did a great job this season. Definitely one of the best coaching jobs of the season right there with our own coach.

What is it about Johnson that you would prefer over Kyle? Can you make a substantive argument based on his schemes, management of the team, ability to build a quality staff? Can you make any comparison that's free of 'Shanahan has no rings therefore he needs to go.'

I like Ben Johnson's 4th down aggressiveness, like you. Can you offer anything else of substance?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Is no one going to talk about Ben Johnson's inability to take the 3 points time and time again in the playoffs?

Imagine if we lost a 3 point game because our coach did that in the playoffs multiple times.

Kyle took 3 points multiple times on Saturday night and got blown out 41-6…

I'll ignore the trolling. So you don't think Bears lost because of Johnson failing to take the 3 points multiple times?