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Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
IMO Madden score out of 100:
Alex Smith: average 72, best 82 when he made probowl and won comeback games vs good teams especially when it matters.
Kraperchoke: average 67, at best and rarely 75, no probowls never sniff 80+ due to overall POOR ACCURACY, lack of touch on passes, bad decision making and because he never earn the job to be QB1 thus never work hard at his craft, and never really improve especially after his SB CHOKE and 110% got exposed for his limitations (especially in passing inaccuracies) and weaknesses by the whole league,
and started a racial controversy for attention and more money outside of football then he 110% dropped to 45-55 status as a QB when he got replaced by Blaine Gabbert who was at that time probably 50-60, a 45-55 QB who's limitations and weaknesses have been exposed,
with racial controversy and still asking for QB1 money? No wonder no team wanted him aka kicked out by the 9ers and NFL.
Bonehead Jimmy: 65 average, at best 72, no probowls too many flaws and limitations, hit ceiling with SB CHOKE and proven even more with NFCC choke last season, will never sniff 80+.

BTW, HARB Sucks. He inherited the top core D players, was never ever good at finding and using WRs, bet on fools gold Kraperchoke over Alex Smith and got fired once Kraperchoke choked in the SB and hit his ceiling, got exposed by the NFL and proven much lesser than Wilson in the same division who was drafted in the 3rd round, once the championship D was gone and the o line went to s**t, still no good WRs, RB1 sucks, and Kraperchoke got figure out and exposed, it was game over for Harb.

Kyle should look into Mac, he's a pro bowler!
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It's a conundrum, Jimmy makes a nice throw followed by a sack/pick/safety/fumble. His lack of awareness is mind boggling.

Yah I'm not sure Jimmy is better than Smith or Kaep. Neither of them are studs but Jim.y never, never deserved a 75m contract. I also think Harbs has a stronger personality and would get more.out of this team. Shamahan and Lynch did a decent job drafting, ahem Trey Sermon, Kinlaw LoL. But Harbaugh IMO did a better job putting them in position to succeed.

I don't. Team would have a ton more penalties every week. Offensively they'd be poorly coached with complete inept play calling in the pass game. Offensive players would be struggling to develop until they go elsewhere. Ted Ginn had one reception in 2012. One. Basically all the complaints about Kyle go to 11 with Harbaugh.

Perhaps Fangio mitigates it again with his fantastic coaching. That'd be the X factor

Harbaugh would neuter Jimmy. If it's not there take the sack. Sure it wouldn't be the elaborate and sophisticated offense (that struggles to score) of Kyle Shanahan, but he also wouldn't allow Jimmy to be a back breaker the way Kyle does.
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Oct 27, 2022 at 6:07 AM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Harbaugh would neuter Jimmy. If it's not there take the sack. Sure it wouldn't be the elaborate and sophisticated offense (that struggles to score) of Kyle Shanahan, but he also wouldn't allow Jimmy to be a back breaker the way Kyle does.

Don't have the 2011 defense to hold everyone from scoring or giving us great field position. Neutering him would just cause more losses.

Harbaugh back in the league will be like Mooch in Detroit. Theres a reason he's staying at Michigan.
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Idunno. Shammy can't seem to coach at all in the second half of games. It seems he has a script for the first half and if that goes down the tubes the adjustments seem lacking to me. And penalties, the 49ers have many offensive penalties each game. Almost one illegal motion per.games it seems. Not very disciplined or the scheme is too complex.

If this defense wasn't playing lights out in the first six games we may not even be 3-4. The defense looks a lot better than the offense does and Shammy, not DeMeco was the one thought of as a genius. I'm on the fence. Not a complete hater but not impressed either.

And thats different from Harbaugh how? Do you not remember the constant delay of games and illegal motions? Being top 10 in penalties 3 out of 4 years. Top 12 all 4 years.

If the 2011 9ers D doesn't play lights out the 9ers aren't even a playoff team in 2011. All time team record for field goals.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
True, Kyle hasn't had great QB play while he's been here. It just really sucks that Kyle had this QB situation forced upon him. John Lynch really needs own up to bad QB play he's brought to the team alone. Jimmy was a forced on him and he should have more input on players.

Kyle could have drafted Mahomes, Watson or waited to sign Cousins

Yeah. I believe Lynch was Interested In Mahomes, but Kyle refused to take a look at him.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
True, Kyle hasn't had great QB play while he's been here. It just really sucks that Kyle had this QB situation forced upon him. John Lynch really needs own up to bad QB play he's brought to the team alone. Jimmy was a forced on him and he should have more input on players.

Kyle could have drafted Mahomes, Watson or waited to sign Cousins

Yeah. I believe Lynch was Interested In Mahomes, but Kyle refused to take a look at him.
Kyle at the time, thought he could wait for cousins, until Wash cocked blocked us with the Franchise tag (rumors of him getting the tag).. then we traded for Jimmy

He's admitted that was a mistake
I feel like Kyle is coach Red from waterboy. It's like he's running out plays in his notebook.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kyle at the time, thought he could wait for cousins, until Wash cocked blocked us with the Franchise tag (rumors of him getting the tag).. then we traded for Jimmy

He's admitted that was a mistake

Only had 2 months to look into the guy too.

Obviously in hindsight its a mistake. To pretend that all sorts of people were calling for him to be taken at 2 is revisionist history though.

I don't lament passing on Watson one bit.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Oct 27, 2022 at 9:38 AM ]
Kyle has never won a game he is trailing when the 4th quarter ends.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle has never won a game he is trailing when the 4th quarter ends.

FIRE HIM NOW!
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle has never won a game he is trailing when the 4th quarter ends.

FIRE HIM NOW!
why.. he has won every game not trailing when the 4th qtr ends
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle has never won a game he is trailing when the 4th quarter ends.

FIRE HIM NOW!
why.. he has won every game not trailing when the 4th qtr ends

Well when you put it that way...
It's like this guy has been reading my posts. It's so spot on. The drop-off n the offense is alarming after he rounds out ofnscripted plays. And there's no adjustments, and the after halftime offensive adjustment is even worse.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-niners-offense-is-cruising-until-kyle-shanahan-runs-out-of-scripted-plays/
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
True, Kyle hasn't had great QB play while he's been here. It just really sucks that Kyle had this QB situation forced upon him. John Lynch really needs own up to bad QB play he's brought to the team alone. Jimmy was a forced on him and he should have more input on players.

Kyle could have drafted Mahomes, Watson or waited to sign Cousins

The excuses are ridiculous. It's not a coincidence that Jimmy looks good, then bad. Shanahan has no frigging clue about in game play calling. I remember watching Bill walshs offense, and of the team started out slow I always knew there was a good chance of a comeback because of walshs genius adjustments and in game playcalling.

I have zero faith that Shanahan has that ability. Zero. Regardless of qb.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
True, Kyle hasn't had great QB play while he's been here. It just really sucks that Kyle had this QB situation forced upon him. John Lynch really needs own up to bad QB play he's brought to the team alone. Jimmy was a forced on him and he should have more input on players.

Kyle could have drafted Mahomes, Watson or waited to sign Cousins

The excuses are ridiculous. It's not a coincidence that Jimmy looks good, then bad. Shanahan has no frigging clue about in game play calling. I remember watching Bill walshs offense, and of the team started out slow I always knew there was a good chance of a comeback because of walshs genius adjustments and in game playcalling.

I have zero faith that Shanahan has that ability. Zero. Regardless of qb.
What about when Deberg was the starting QB.. did you love it then ?
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