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Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
Originally posted by Koldo:
You mean the statistic that makes him look even worse?
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
The three listed actually average 15.5% which is better than the league average of 13.3%
Shanny being at 3.3% is four times worse than average.
That's why I want a smaller number. If I am reading this correctly, 3+ could also mean the team trailed by 10+ points heading into the 4th.
Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
Kaepernick also has been out of the league since 2016
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I think his record in such games is actually really impressive when you consider the other 3 coaches listed all have had franchise QBs for a large part of their tenure. Kyle has never had the benefit of semi-decent QB play.
Here it is again.. KS never had the benefit.. yet who picked all the KS QBs.. KS
Only himself to blame. Ain't that a b.
This is why I mention let coaches coach.. let GMs GM.. no more KS the GM.. except at WR/TE. He played WR and gets the position.. develops those guys nicely.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
Mid 2012 thru 2013 Kap absolutely was. His play fell off when league adjusted.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
Pretty damn sure the tweet mentions John Harbaugh. Unless somehow Jim was coaching all this time in the league pulling strings
Originally posted by dj43:
Agree to disagree...but that is another discussion.
Even if we were to agree, a season and a half is too small a sample to place against Shanahan's 6 years.
Originally posted by rockzz:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by dj43:
That is certainly true of Belichick. It is not true of McVay unless you count Goff as a franchise QB. McVay only had Stafford for one year. As to Harbaugh, do you call Alex Smith a franchise QB? Some here would deny that vehemently. Kaepernick was a franchise QB? Neh.
The three listed actually average 15.5% which is better than the league average of 13.3%
Shanny being at 3.3% is four times worse than average.
That's why I want a smaller number. If I am reading this correctly, 3+ could also mean the team trailed by 10+ points heading into the 4th.
If I didn't mess up anything on stathead. When losing by 1 to 5 after 3Q from 2017 to 2022:
Shanahan: 4-5
McVay: 3-6
Reid: 5-5
Belichick: 2-5
Harbaugh: 2-5
Carroll: 6-4
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
The thing is shanny is clueless at times.
Just look at what he said during the half time interview about the defense. He thought they were doing great. He literally said that.
Now what pretense was he basing this on? The score being close and us not being blown out at half time?
We never forced a single punt. There was a flukey interception and muffed punt or it would have been 28 points allowed before the half.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out the defense was absolutely getting thrashed and just got lucky.
Yet he thought they were doing good.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by dj43:
Agree to disagree...but that is another discussion.
Even if we were to agree, a season and a half is too small a sample to place against Shanahan's 6 years.
Shanahan hasn't anything remotely close to 2012 Kap in his 6 years at QB.
Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Let's take a quick look at coaches after 88 games!
Andy Reid 57-31
sean Payton 55-33
sean Mcvay 55-31 (86 games)
john harbaugh 54-32
Mike shanahan 48-40
Doug Pederson 44-42 (86 games)
Mike vrabel 45-26 (71 games)
Jim harbaugh 44-19-1 (64 games)
Bill Parcells 47-41
Kyle shanahan 42-46 Lolololololol
but but but he schemes guys open!!
he also took beathard over mahomes and said no to Brady, two guys who could probably hit the open man.
this man is the de facto GM and HC and end all be all. The state of the franchise is 100% his fault.
a losing record halfway into year 6 and people still coming up with Kylexcuses!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by rockzz:
Some SB winning HC records without their franchise QB:
Payton without Brees: 17-12 - 58.6%
John Harbaugh without Lamar: 100-75 (4-9 without Flacco) - 57.1%
Andy Reid without McNabb and Mahomes: 91-73 (41-47 if you also exclude Alex Smith) - 55.5%
Carroll without Wilson: 52-54 - 49.1%
Tomlin without Big Ben: 19-20-1 - 48.7%
Arians without Brady and Palmer: 19-21 - 47.5%
Belichick without Brady: 74-83 (36-44 with the Browns and 38-39 with the Patriots) - 47.1%