John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
How many edge rushers have won DPOY while 30+ (at the start of the season)?

Reggie White is the only one that comes to mind and that was last century. Myles Garrett is no Reggie White.

He doesn't have to be DPOY to f**k s**t up lol. Dude just had more sacks than our whole team, he's not gonna fall off a cliff all of a sudden.

my only issue with LA making that type of move is you're giving up a young stud DE and 3 good picks for one player. That one player can be toast on any given play. Is what it is.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
How many edge rushers have won DPOY while 30+ (at the start of the season)?

Reggie White is the only one that comes to mind and that was last century. Myles Garrett is no Reggie White.

He doesn't have to be DPOY to f**k s**t up lol. Dude just had more sacks than our whole team, he's not gonna fall off a cliff all of a sudden.

my only issue with LA making that type of move is you're giving up a young stud DE and 3 good picks for one player. That one player can be toast on any given play. Is what it is.

Yeah not sure what 49erRing is trying to prove, Garrett is pretty much a guaranteed All Pro at the least if healthy and I think it's a bit ridiculous to think he can't get DPOY again. He's not Reggie but it's looking like he's going to be a top 5 pass rusher of all time. Only ones I don't see him surpassing is White and LT

If we had traded for him, he'd be injured by week 3. With how our luck has been Myles will probably go into a 2nd prime with the Rams.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Did you have evidence of that? Everything I mentioned is known or actually happened

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He doesn't have to be DPOY to f**k s**t up lol. Dude just had more sacks than our whole team, he's not gonna fall off a cliff all of a sudden.

my only issue with LA making that type of move is you're giving up a young stud DE and 3 good picks for one player. That one player can be toast on any given play. Is what it is.

See, this take I agree with. They've drafted so well recently, too. You'd think they'd want to keep fortifying the roster rather than concentrating their talent in one player.

But make no mistake about Myles Garrett: he is going to f**k s**t up in the NFCW. He finally has a chance to win a ring now. Watch the hell out.

Just 18 more pressures than the much younger, still ascending player that they traded away.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He doesn't have to be DPOY to f**k s**t up lol. Dude just had more sacks than our whole team, he's not gonna fall off a cliff all of a sudden.

my only issue with LA making that type of move is you're giving up a young stud DE and 3 good picks for one player. That one player can be toast on any given play. Is what it is.

See, this take I agree with. They've drafted so well recently, too. You'd think they'd want to keep fortifying the roster rather than concentrating their talent in one player.

But make no mistake about Myles Garrett: he is going to f**k s**t up in the NFCW. He finally has a chance to win a ring now. Watch the hell out.

Well you answered your own question, Garrett is the type of player that can put you over the top to get a ring. That and they know they don't have much left in Stafford so go all in. If it was the flip side of the coin where the Browns make that trade for Garrett it makes no sense but for the Rams right now this is the type of move that can bring a championship

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Most QB pressures over the last 2 seasons, per @NextGenStats…

1. Myles Garrett - 161
2. Micah Parsons - 158
2. Danielle Hunter - 158
4. Josh Hines-Allen - 147
5. Jared Verse - 143
5. Will Anderson Jr. - 143
7. Nik Bonitto - 134
8. Zach Allen - 126#RamsHouse | #DawgPound

— NFL Researcher (@NFL_Researcher) June 1, 2026

Just 18 more pressures than the much younger, still ascending player that they traded away.

He also had 16.5 more sacks

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Most QB pressures over the last 2 seasons, per @NextGenStats…

1. Myles Garrett - 161
2. Micah Parsons - 158
2. Danielle Hunter - 158
4. Josh Hines-Allen - 147
5. Jared Verse - 143
5. Will Anderson Jr. - 143
7. Nik Bonitto - 134
8. Zach Allen - 126#RamsHouse | #DawgPound

— NFL Researcher (@NFL_Researcher) June 1, 2026

Just 18 more pressures than the much younger, still ascending player that they traded away.

Verse is a pressure machine, but the same reason he gets a ton of pressure is also why he doesn't get a lot of sacks: his entire rush game is predicated on the bullrush. He's awesome at collapsing the pocket, but everything he does is through contact. He rarely gets a clean opportunity to finish the sack because of his sticky rush style. He's also stiff as hell and struggles to reduce his surface area around the arc.

To be clear: Verse is a one-trick pony, but he's damn good at that one trick. I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent double-digit sack guy, tho. He's very difficult to project. He's like an edge version of Justin Smith--he'll probably never give you a huge sack season, but he's going to be a team-first glue guy-- a guy who gives you 5-8 sacks every season, a s**t ton of pressures, sets a concrete edge, relentless to the ball, does the dirty work, etc.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Did you have evidence of that? Everything I mentioned is known or actually happened

Pretty well documented as opposed to your opinions below

But seeing and meeting Mahomes gave Lynch something to think about, he said.

"I remember going to his pro day and, you know, we were in a different place as an organization and we had a different plan at quarterback," Lynch said. "I remember going to his pro day, doing my job, but really it's kind of a smokescreen because we were going elsewhere.

"And then calling our head coach, Kyle, and saying, 'We might want to rethink this,' because he put on a show."

The 49ers passed on quarterbacks until selecting C.J. Beathard at the end of the third round

Hmm…
Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Did you have evidence of that? Everything I mentioned is known or actually happened

Pretty well documented as opposed to your opinions below

But seeing and meeting Mahomes gave Lynch something to think about, he said.

"I remember going to his pro day and, you know, we were in a different place as an organization and we had a different plan at quarterback," Lynch said. "I remember going to his pro day, doing my job, but really it's kind of a smokescreen because we were going elsewhere.

"And then calling our head coach, Kyle, and saying, 'We might want to rethink this,' because he put on a show."

The 49ers passed on quarterbacks until selecting C.J. Beathard at the end of the third round

Hmm…
Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too

Kyle was Trent's offensive coordinator for multiple years and CMC is literally Kyle's wet dream it's easy to see the correlation. While if Kyle waved off top talent at QB because he had a plan, Lynch over rode it breaking the plan trading for Jimmy, not sure how that makes him look any better also Lynch is the GM if he wanted Mahomes he could have taken him instead of Solomon Thomas.

John Lynch waisted 3 1sts a 2nd and a 4th because he strayed from the plan while Kyle and Mike saved his job by spotting Purdy

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Did you have evidence of that? Everything I mentioned is known or actually happened

Pretty well documented as opposed to your opinions below

But seeing and meeting Mahomes gave Lynch something to think about, he said.

"I remember going to his pro day and, you know, we were in a different place as an organization and we had a different plan at quarterback," Lynch said. "I remember going to his pro day, doing my job, but really it's kind of a smokescreen because we were going elsewhere.

"And then calling our head coach, Kyle, and saying, 'We might want to rethink this,' because he put on a show."

The 49ers passed on quarterbacks until selecting C.J. Beathard at the end of the third round

Hmm…
Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too

Kyle was Trent's offensive coordinator for multiple years and CMC is literally Kyle's wet dream it's easy to see the correlation. While if Kyle waved off top talent at QB because he had a plan, Lynch over rode it breaking the plan trading for Jimmy, not sure how that makes him look any better also Lynch is the GM if he wanted Mahomes he could have taken him instead of Solomon Thomas.

John Lynch waisted 3 1sts a 2nd and a 4th because he strayed from the plan while Kyle and Mike saved his job by spotting Purdy

Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.

Lol this. What an idiotic post, but par for the course

Shanny ain't a clown, dude a genius, lynch is just an analyst pretending to be a gm, 0 experience and it shows in his god awful drafts

What about his great drafts then? What about his great trades? He's not perfect, and I have my criticisms, but the hate for him is a tad much

Idk if I'd boast on his trades 😂 if it wasn't for the diamonds in the rough we've landed later in the draft his track record is really bad. I'm "eh" with Lynch, anyone thinking we should fire Shanahan are either trolling or just don't know ball

I'd absolutely boast about guys like Williams and CMC. Also not interested in "well if it weren't for this or that" or any other excuse why he lucked into making good picks , f**k that, he made the picks and they were great and has led to sustained success.

Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too. Now let's look at what Lynch did traded for Garoppolo when Kyle wanted Cousins traded for Dee Ford with a chronic knee, which worked for a year… Traded away Buckner for another DT with knee degeneration, tried fixing his Garoppolo trade by using 3 1sts+ making arguably a top 5 dumbest trade ever not knowing who would even be there… and that's off the top of my head. I'm not taking away from his late round hits either, I brought that up as his saving grace

KS wanted cousins so bad he had no interest in checking out mahomes at JL behest . See how that works. Lol You don't get to pick and chose what moves he was responsible for or based on what worked and what didn't.

Did you have evidence of that? Everything I mentioned is known or actually happened

Pretty well documented as opposed to your opinions below

But seeing and meeting Mahomes gave Lynch something to think about, he said.

"I remember going to his pro day and, you know, we were in a different place as an organization and we had a different plan at quarterback," Lynch said. "I remember going to his pro day, doing my job, but really it's kind of a smokescreen because we were going elsewhere.

"And then calling our head coach, Kyle, and saying, 'We might want to rethink this,' because he put on a show."

The 49ers passed on quarterbacks until selecting C.J. Beathard at the end of the third round

Hmm…
Williams wanted to return to Kyle's scheme and vice versa. Kyle probably pushed hard for CMC too

Kyle was Trent's offensive coordinator for multiple years and CMC is literally Kyle's wet dream it's easy to see the correlation. While if Kyle waved off top talent at QB because he had a plan, Lynch over rode it breaking the plan trading for Jimmy, not sure how that makes him look any better also Lynch is the GM if he wanted Mahomes he could have taken him instead of Solomon Thomas.

John Lynch waisted 3 1sts a 2nd and a 4th because he strayed from the plan while Kyle and Mike saved his job by spotting Purdy

Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

Yes. Pure invention.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Soooo…your assumptions. Got it

If you think Kyle didn't have influence on trading for Trent and CMC then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not giving him sole credit either but even by your own "proof" of Lynch looking at Mahomes he ultimately didn't override Kyle then but did for Garoppolo fumbling several top end draft picks in the process. While there are accounts of Mike and Kyle finding Purdy and even saying he was the best QB they had to Jed's face during Treys year and Garoppolo still on the team.

Also looked it up and what do you know…

2020 Trade: After sitting out the 2019 season in Washington, Williams specifically desired a fresh start in an elite scheme. The 49ers were his preferred destination, reuniting him with head coach Kyle Shanahan, who was his offensive coordinator in Washington