John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mykel Williams - 1 - 11 - 2025.

20 tackles, 1 sack, 4 tackles for a loss.

Jared Verse - 1 - 19 - 2024.

58 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles for a loss.

We don't have anybody like Jared Verse is the argument. We don't have that value to give in a trade is the argument I see. Well maybe we should get somebody like him or pick somebody like him..... I think that would be a good idea. Imagine drafting well also positions you better for blockbuster trades. What a concept.

Amen to that brother!

I wonder what it would cost to get Max - even though Davis won't trade to us.

I am trying to decide if giving away future draft picks for WIN NOW is worth it or not.

I would be happy with a SB if it meant having to rebuild for a couple years afterwards.

The team is too old to use the Seattle model. But why not use the Rams model?

Originally posted by Crown:
I am trying to decide if giving away future draft picks for WIN NOW is worth it or not.

I would be happy with a SB if it meant having to rebuild for a couple years afterwards.

The team is too old to use the Seattle model. But why not use the Rams model?

The Rams have been very multiple in their team building models. They've swung for the fences by trading away future draft picks for star players, and they've also hit homeruns on their own draft picks. The fact they have so many great young players that need to be paid at the same time is a testament to how well they drafted in such a small window.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Crown:
I am trying to decide if giving away future draft picks for WIN NOW is worth it or not.

I would be happy with a SB if it meant having to rebuild for a couple years afterwards.

The team is too old to use the Seattle model. But why not use the Rams model?

The Rams have been very multiple in their team building models. They've swung for the fences by trading away future draft picks for star players, and they've also hit homeruns on their own draft picks. The fact they have so many great young players that need to be paid at the same time is a testament to how well they drafted in such a small window.

We did that in 2021-2023 already. Traded for CMC. Signed Hargrave. Traded for Chase Young. They didn't close the deal, and that's that. If the young guys we brought in produce maybe we'll do it again.

2026 is, to me, an evaluation year. How will the vets returning from injury perform? If Bosa, Warner and Kittle suck this year then you burn it all down and trade or cut everyone over 30 for 2027. If they play great and the young 1-3 year players start stepping up you go all in in 2027.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
The draft was critical this year. Since we don't make splash trades or attack FA like the Rams and Hawks, we needed a HR in order to supplement and replenish our aging stars. And I don't believe we did that.

I think it's time to bring in a more experienced GM that can take over player acquisition and team building aspect, and let Kyle just focus on player development and game planning.

We are most likely finishing 3rd in our division again, traveling all of the playoffs (if we're lucky enough to make it) and another year wasted
Year for our aging stars.

If/when that happens it's time to reset this team. keep Kyle and fire Lynch. Trade our few star players except for Warner and Kittle and do a real rebuild. We can't keep staying status quo. either shoot for the stars like the Rams or blowing this b***h up.

I said before this draft we would be better with a legit GM. This move doesn't change that.

Having said that if we make the playoffs again in this division then resetting the team is the dumbest overreaction imo. Most people have us as the 3rd best team right now. I have a feeling the regime is looking at the Rams own rebuild after their down year in 2022 and how they look 3 years later.

Also I think it's safe to say with our schedule if we make the playoffs and don't win the division we're still doing a lot right and for that to happen we would need a lot of these young guys we have to step up and show the team something. If that happens it doesn't scream rebuild. It screams put your chips in and go for it.

But once again regardless of what happens I think we'd be a better team with a legit GM working with Kyle.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Lynch catching way too much heat for Garrett going to the Rams. I still blame Kaepernick for week 17 in 2016 vs the f**king Rams. Played the long game well Rams very well.

Lynch still would've taken Thomas. The bond was sealed from footsies in class together

Bro lol I hate that it might be true judging by how they draft.

This is nonsense. We can joke but I worry about some people being serious with this take.

Garrett was the slam dunk top player in that class. It was after him that everyone argued about what should happen. He would've been the pick. I'll never forgive Chip Kelly and Kap for that useless win.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mykel Williams - 1 - 11 - 2025.

20 tackles, 1 sack, 4 tackles for a loss.

Jared Verse - 1 - 19 - 2024.

58 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles for a loss.

We don't have anybody like Jared Verse is the argument. We don't have that value to give in a trade is the argument I see. Well maybe we should get somebody like him or pick somebody like him..... I think that would be a good idea. Imagine drafting well also positions you better for blockbuster trades. What a concept.

Amen to that brother!

I wonder what it would cost to get Max - even though Davis won't trade to us.

They need to make a deal. You have to wheel and deal if you want to go to the top. 49ers and Shany / Lynch sit on the sidelines too often. Rams already bought 1 Championship going all in. They could maybe buy another. This team just wants to be good enough and do shifts and motions. Never go for it all.

I just hope they're working (at least trying hard) on getting a real good FS and a solid backup on board

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Les Snead is showing up John Lynch as a GM. I mean, we have all kinds of cap excuses as to why we can't make big signings, yet the Rams continue to make big signings year after year. People keep saying that they will have to "pay the piper". Well Les Snead must be bribing the piper to not collect his depth.

Yup, and their big price was one 5-12 season. Oh, the horror! It's not like we've avoided terrible seasons by playing money ball.

That's what having Matt Stafford grants you. We havent' seen Sean McVay have any success without a #1 overall pick playing QB for him. Obviously great if you have that. We'll see how long Matt can play at a high level and whether Simpson can play anywhere close to that.

What does it matter? Les Snead will just pull off another trade to get a top QB like Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen until Simpson is ready.

Part of our issue is we and the rest of the league use the salary cap as a legitimate reason/excuse to taper current and future short term spending. Long ago we were in 'cap hell ' But the revenue game has evolved. Snead is fearless about future cap and maybe because his owner is one of the NFL shot callers.

To put things in perspective
2026 cap $301M
2021 cap $182M
2016 cap $$155M

Snead doesn't fear free agency or long term spending on studs. He undervalues draft picks and would rather spend on known commodities, proven players. Which aligns with "f them draft picks" saying.

He didn't just sign Garrett, but also traded a 2026 1st for Trent McDuffie and gave him an immediate $124M extension.

At least we have the most cap space. #1 in responsible spending.

Will that equal a SB victory? And what good is that brag if we're not gonna actually use it? The Rams have won a SB using the "F them picks" method. If they win again it will be 2 in 6 years. The fundamental question will then have to asked: who's method works?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mykel Williams - 1 - 11 - 2025.

20 tackles, 1 sack, 4 tackles for a loss.

Jared Verse - 1 - 19 - 2024.

58 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles for a loss.

We don't have anybody like Jared Verse is the argument. We don't have that value to give in a trade is the argument I see. Well maybe we should get somebody like him or pick somebody like him..... I think that would be a good idea. Imagine drafting well also positions you better for blockbuster trades. What a concept.

Amen to that brother!

I wonder what it would cost to get Max - even though Davis won't trade to us.

They need to make a deal. You have to wheel and deal if you want to go to the top. 49ers and Shany / Lynch sit on the sidelines too often. Rams already bought 1 Championship going all in. They could maybe guy another. This team just wants to be good enough and do shifts and motions. Never go for it all.

We did ours earlier when we traded for Osa.

One more year guys one more year of this clown

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Les Snead is showing up John Lynch as a GM. I mean, we have all kinds of cap excuses as to why we can't make big signings, yet the Rams continue to make big signings year after year. People keep saying that they will have to "pay the piper". Well Les Snead must be bribing the piper to not collect his depth.

Yup, and their big price was one 5-12 season. Oh, the horror! It's not like we've avoided terrible seasons by playing money ball.

That's what having Matt Stafford grants you. We havent' seen Sean McVay have any success without a #1 overall pick playing QB for him. Obviously great if you have that. We'll see how long Matt can play at a high level and whether Simpson can play anywhere close to that.

What does it matter? Les Snead will just pull off another trade to get a top QB like Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen until Simpson is ready.

Part of our issue is we and the rest of the league use the salary cap as a legitimate reason/excuse to taper current and future short term spending. Long ago we were in 'cap hell ' But the revenue game has evolved. Snead is fearless about future cap and maybe because his owner is one of the NFL shot callers.

To put things in perspective
2026 cap $301M
2021 cap $182M
2016 cap $$155M

Snead doesn't fear free agency or long term spending on studs. He undervalues draft picks and would rather spend on known commodities, proven players. Which aligns with "f them draft picks" saying.

He didn't just sign Garrett, but also traded a 2026 1st for Trent McDuffie and gave him an immediate $124M extension.

At least we have the most cap space. #1 in responsible spending.

So basically participation trophy champs?

He's being sarcastic. I'm not down for moving any 1st rd picks in 2027. Epic draft class.

not sure who folks realistically think SF should go after? Myles was never coming here based off that new contract. LA has future big time deals to payout, while SF has those contracts going right now.

That's my point. LA doesn't worry about future big time deals to pay out. The salary cap doubled in 10 years, and increased more than 50% in the past years. The Rams had $248M in dead cap hits over the past 5 years. They see it like any business expense a loss to write off but it's the teams money not the fans and is the team really going broke? They recently won a SB and now they're primed in the short term.

What I'm saying is they couldn't afford to keep the team the same, they got 3+ massive contracts coming up. SF just has a season of massive DM as well. Like you said it's a business. We will see if it pays off or not for LA. Myles is a monster and any team would love to have him. IMO it's not like they didn't already have a great DL though.

Just a difference in philosophy. The Seahawks did it by drafting with the addition of Darnold who didn't carry them. Nail the draft or hit with FAs in trades. I can't say Lynch has done either with 2 of his top picks Solomon and Lance.

The Los Angeles #Rams had $25M of cap space and decided to use it to acquire Browns EDGE Myles Garrett.

The #49ers currently have the NFL most $72.4M of cap space. pic.twitter.com/4Xdfiw7cSu

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) June 1, 2026

We all know SF has next to no cap space in 2027, hence the reworking of deals. Stafford is basically a yr to yr deal and they have yet to hand out their deals to their own.

I agree it's all about nailing the draft end of the day.

Some of you are trying to manifest them being fired into existence, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
One more year guys one more year of this clown

We have had these 2 clowns for almost a decade.

And they've been one of the best teams in football for almost a decade.