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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.

Seattle hasn't won a SB since five years before Lynch was hired, so saying they lapped us during his tenure is simply not true. They changed regimes and rebuilt.

As for the Rams, they also fell back and out of the playoffs before we did after their second SB appearance. They should be ahead of us in that regard since they fell off first, missing the playoffs in 2022 (like we did in 2024). Their current 2025 team is, by this measure, our 2027 team. If the 49ers lose in the Wild Card round next weekend that would match LA's 2023 result, meaning we're actually keeping pace with theirs. We're simply doing it now instead of 2 years ago. Ideally we do better than they did, but we're currently "out of phase" rather than being in sync.

The thing that will ultimately break this pattern will be when Stafford retires. Assuming things continue as expected, they'll be looking for a QB and Brock will be in his prime.
[ Edited by captveg on Jan 4, 2026 at 10:03 AM ]
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Still celebrating into the morning
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.

Seattle hasn't won a SB since five years before Lynch was hired, so saying they lapped us during his tenure is simply not true.

As for the Rams, they also fell back and out of the playoffs before we did after their second SB appearance. They should be ahead of us in that regard since they fell off first, missing the playoffs in 2022 (like we did in 2024). Their current 2025 team is, by this measure, our 2027 team. If the 49ers lose in the Wild Card round next weekend that would match LA's 2023 result, meaning we're actually keeping pace with theirs.

I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.
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Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.

Considering all of the injuries, the cap cutting (see new faces around 4949 Centennial) , and disgruntle star wideouts that left or did not want to be here after getting the bag, and WE STILL PLAYED FOR THE #1 SEED, I am not sure I agree that we are withering. We are rebuilding. True, we are inexperienced. But they are learning. It is clear that we will be better for it.
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.

Seattle hasn't won a SB since five years before Lynch was hired, so saying they lapped us during his tenure is simply not true.

As for the Rams, they also fell back and out of the playoffs before we did after their second SB appearance. They should be ahead of us in that regard since they fell off first, missing the playoffs in 2022 (like we did in 2024). Their current 2025 team is, by this measure, our 2027 team. If the 49ers lose in the Wild Card round next weekend that would match LA's 2023 result, meaning we're actually keeping pace with theirs.

I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.

This offseason will be huge for the future direction of the team. I know it's tough for some to see, but the 2025 offseason did improve the team by a notable amount. (Easiest thing to point to is the +6 win total). Coaching on defense and special teams got much better. While not improved enough, the younger players/depth got better. The financial health of the team got better.

Now they need to really improve both trenches and the defensive coverage. There's no huge contract extensions due this offseason so they should have some flexibility to make those improvements. You know that Kyle is unhappy with the OL's run game this season, so for the first time I think we may truly see some more moves for the position group. Then you will absolutely have Saleh pushing for better DL and DBs.
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.

Considering all of the injuries, the cap cutting (see new faces around 4949 Centennial) , and disgruntle star wideouts that left or did not want to be here after getting the bag, and WE STILL PLAYED FOR THE #1 SEED, I am not sure I agree that we are withering. We are rebuilding. True, we are inexperienced. But they are learning. It is clear that we will be better for it.

It's not clear to me that we will be better for it. I see us plugging in a lot of B and C players to stem the tide, but that only gets you so far. We need to find a few A players in the draft or FA just to keep up with the reloads in this division, and that's not even accounting for the eventual losses of Trent and CMC.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.

Seattle hasn't won a SB since five years before Lynch was hired, so saying they lapped us during his tenure is simply not true.

As for the Rams, they also fell back and out of the playoffs before we did after their second SB appearance. They should be ahead of us in that regard since they fell off first, missing the playoffs in 2022 (like we did in 2024). Their current 2025 team is, by this measure, our 2027 team. If the 49ers lose in the Wild Card round next weekend that would match LA's 2023 result, meaning we're actually keeping pace with theirs.

I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.

This offseason will be huge for the future direction of the team. I know it's tough for some to see, but the 2025 offseason did improve the team by a notable amount. (Easiest thing to point to is the +6 win total). Coaching on defense and special teams got much better. While not improved enough, the younger players/depth got better. The financial health of the team got better.

Now they need to really improve both trenches and the defensive coverage. There's no huge contract extensions due this offseason so they should have some flexibility to make those improvements. You know that Kyle is unhappy with the OL's run game this season, so for the first time I think we may truly see some more moves for the position group. Then you will absolutely have Saleh pushing for better DL and DBs.

Trust me, I hope I'm wrong. Would love to see multiple home runs this offseason. I just don't have the confidence in Lynch to pull it off.
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Lynch was probably focused on Jiayir Brown and saw him fail to do something he did routinely (run the alley)as a player.


This is your own doing, Johnny Boy

Yes, how terrible to have the team playing in meaningful games in January. Just awful of him to do that. He needs to build a 2-15 roster to really show this fanbase how to lose unimportant games!

For me, it's not so much about playing relevant games in January. It's about watching division rivals lap us. Seattle and LA have won super bowls, lost core talent, and reloaded. During those same windows, our team seems to have eroded overall and overpaid for talent with limited impact. I put that on Lynch mainly.

Seattle hasn't won a SB since five years before Lynch was hired, so saying they lapped us during his tenure is simply not true.

As for the Rams, they also fell back and out of the playoffs before we did after their second SB appearance. They should be ahead of us in that regard since they fell off first, missing the playoffs in 2022 (like we did in 2024). Their current 2025 team is, by this measure, our 2027 team. If the 49ers lose in the Wild Card round next weekend that would match LA's 2023 result, meaning we're actually keeping pace with theirs.

I get it and don't mean to say the windows are perfectly aligned. I just mean those two organizations have fielded greatly improved and competitive teams while ours seems to be slowly withering. I'm not confident in Lynch to get us into a place where we can compete with those two in the nearish future.

This offseason will be huge for the future direction of the team. I know it's tough for some to see, but the 2025 offseason did improve the team by a notable amount. (Easiest thing to point to is the +6 win total). Coaching on defense and special teams got much better. While not improved enough, the younger players/depth got better. The financial health of the team got better.

Now they need to really improve both trenches and the defensive coverage. There's no huge contract extensions due this offseason so they should have some flexibility to make those improvements. You know that Kyle is unhappy with the OL's run game this season, so for the first time I think we may truly see some more moves for the position group. Then you will absolutely have Saleh pushing for better DL and DBs.

Trust me, I hope I'm wrong. Would love to see multiple home runs this offseason. I just don't have the confidence in Lynch to pull it off.

Multiple homeruns are unlikely in any offseason. I'd be happy with a homerun and a couple of doubles, with a few singles and walks thrown in for good measure.
I think the Niners need a paradigm shift on how they draft. Yes the need a pass rusher going into next year but they also need a few linebackers, a LT, a guard, a RB, a FS, a center and more DL. So instead of simply locking into one position and drafting the 5th best DE as an example, instead pick the best available athlete for the position groups that you need. That and take away some power from Kyle and John to influence the top rounds and hand that power to the scouts instead ( probably easier said than done. But neither Kyle or John have the touch.
Originally posted by bigpete50:
Yes the need a pass rusher going into next year but they also need a few linebackers, a LT, a guard, a RB, a FS, a center and more DL.

They don't need a RB if they can resign Robinson or a similar guy, but the others I agree with.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by bigpete50:
Yes the need a pass rusher going into next year but they also need a few linebackers, a LT, a guard, a RB, a FS, a center and more DL.

They don't need a RB if they can resign Robinson or a similar guy, but the others I agree with.

If this team drafts another RB, then Lynch should be fired.
Originally posted by bigpete50:
I think the Niners need a paradigm shift on how they draft. Yes the need a pass rusher going into next year but they also need a few linebackers, a LT, a guard, a RB, a FS, a center and more DL.

How is this a paradigm shift? They literally drafted almost all of these positions in the last draft lol.

The real shift is that they need to f**king hit more homeruns. I like the guys they brought in, but are any of them future stars? Where's the next generation of star 49ers? They're still having the same problem as the last few years where they're still heavily dependent on aging players. Fred is going to be 30 next year.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 4, 2026 at 10:52 AM ]
Originally posted by captveg:
They don't need a RB if they can resign Robinson or a similar guy, but the others I agree with.

It's not their biggest need but eventually I think we move CMC to slot. Our offense desperately needs team speed.
Originally posted by Heroism:
How is this a paradigm shift? They literally drafted almost all of these positions in the last draft lol.

The real shift is that they need to f**king hit more homeruns. I like the guys they brought in, but are any of them future stars? Where's the next generation of star 49ers? They're still having the same problem as the last few years where they're still heavily dependent on aging players. Fred is going to be 30 next year.

Read my entire post pls…you entirely missed my point….
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