John Lynch - 49ers GM

And Laken Tomlinson ended up signing with the Ravens... currently on the practice squad. So another team can still snatch him up, if needed.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IF they trade Burrow - and I doubt it - the asking price will be astronomical.

It will not go to an AFC team.

Les Snead won't care

And they have the ammo and cap space to do it. Disgusting

They have an aggressive GM who makes moves to put them over the top. Unlike ours.

Imagine if the Rams had the easiest schedule in the league and the SB in their barn. How many moves would they make? The only moves we made were releasing guys who would have helped us this year and letting guys leave to go on and be stud players on other teams.

Eh don't agree with that. But each his own

What's not to agree with? please explain to me how Lynch has made our team better than the team we had last year? If it isn't for a league easiest schedule, CMC playing out of his mind and great coaching we wouldn't have won a game.

But how about some reference:

-Not re-signing Hufunga who is on his way to a Pro Bowl and replacing him with Jason Pinnock.

-Cutting Maliek Collins (74.5 PFF, 28 pressures and 8 sacks) and replacing him with Alfred Collins.

-letting Greenlaw leave (74.4 PFF) and replacing him with Luke Gifford.

-cutting Javon Hargrave (67.5 PFF, 28 pressures, 4 sacks) and replacing him with CJ West.

-Trading Deebo who has 604 yards and 5 TD's and replacing him with Demarcus Robinson.

-giving 16.8 million dollars to Luke Farrell for 15 snaps a game and letting a better TE walk in Charlie Woerner a year before for 12 mil

-Trading Jordan Mason (659 rushing yards, 4.7 YPC, 6 TDs and replacing him with Brian Robinson

-Drafting a DE 11th overall who isn't a great pass rusher.

-Drafting a LB with a 5th round grade in round 3 who can't see the field over guys like Luke Gifford, Curtis Robinson and former 7th round pick Tatum Bethune. Why even take him if all he can play is WILL and we already had Winters?

That's just brilliant GM'ing there and excellent roster decisions. Literally every player we let leave was replaced with a replacement level quality player.

Dude, please enough with this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap, again your "dream scenario" would never work under the salary cap, I don't care what you say, but we were never gonna pay 3 IDL the kind of money they got.

Enough with this BS that we overdrafted players, there's no such proof to it, for the love of god enough with these silly "dream scenarios", you sound as bad as 9moon with his ridiculous trade ideas.

As for the guys you mentioned, no way are/were we paying HUfanga the money he got, or another Safety that kinda money, and I don't give a s**t about the Pro Bowl.

Collins was cut, big deal we added someone who might be a star in Alfred Collins.

Greenlaw, he wanted to be the LB1, he chose to not stay here, we outbid the Broncos, but he chose DEN, get that through your thick head.

Hargrave didn't do s**t for us, hasn't been that great for MIN, 4 sacks or not, not worth the $20M+ a yr we paid him.

Deebo wanted out, he would have sat out most likely, biggest diva like Aiyuk, and you want him here, just cause he has 600 yards and 5 TDs? C'mon, no guarantee he played anywhere near that here, he always showed up overweight.

Woener vs Farrell is a wash, both are subpar TEs, #2 or #3 at best, so what we gave him $16.8M, bigger issues than that, plus he has played good for us in his limited time.

Mason vs Robinson is another wash, Robinson has been really good for us, plus we weren't paying him what he got.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Dude, please enough with this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap, again your "dream scenario" would never work under the salary cap, I don't care what you say, but we were never gonna pay 3 IDL the kind of money they got.

Enough with this BS that we overdrafted players, there's no such proof to it, for the love of god enough with these silly "dream scenarios", you sound as bad as 9moon with his ridiculous trade ideas.

As for the guys you mentioned, no way are/were we paying HUfanga the money he got, or another Safety that kinda money, and I don't give a s**t about the Pro Bowl.

Collins was cut, big deal we added someone who might be a star in Alfred Collins.

Greenlaw, he wanted to be the LB1, he chose to not stay here, we outbid the Broncos, but he chose DEN, get that through your thick head.

Hargrave didn't do s**t for us, hasn't been that great for MIN, 4 sacks or not, not worth the $20M+ a yr we paid him.

Deebo wanted out, he would have sat out most likely, biggest diva like Aiyuk, and you want him here, just cause he has 600 yards and 5 TDs? C'mon, no guarantee he played anywhere near that here, he always showed up overweight.

Woener vs Farrell is a wash, both are subpar TEs, #2 or #3 at best, so what we gave him $16.8M, bigger issues than that, plus he has played good for us in his limited time.

Mason vs Robinson is another wash, Robinson has been really good for us, plus we weren't paying him what he got.

All you talk about is the salary cap. But now that we got rid of the Aiuyk debacle we will have $61.7 mil in cap space next year.

But you're telling me we couldn't afford 10 mil each for Maliek Collins and Javon Hargrave? we could have easily restructure them.

And yes, Alfred Collins may be good but he isn't right now. 10 tackles, 0 sacks and 12 pressures with a 47.2 grade from PFF and we still can't stop the run. He isn't close to what Maliek or Hargrave would have brought.

That's my whole point. A home SB and an easy schedule and we cut productive players. Keeping those two guys wouldn't have prevented us from drafting Collins either and we wouldn't be forced to start Kalia Davis or Jordan Elliot at DT.

But I get it. Guys like you need to throw constant praise on our own players and slam guys when they are gone. It's what you guys always do. Like it's some kind of coping mechanism.

You find me one publication that had Nick Martin as a 3rd round pick. Everyone had him as a 5th round or later pick. He was over drafted and he doesn't have a position on the team. It was a wasted pick if he can't play anything other than WILL. We do it every single year and waste picks like they are candy.

Greenlaw would have stayed if we paid him what he wanted. Same for Hufunga. 15 mil a year for an All Pro safety is peanuts.

And saying Hargrave didn't do anything for us is absurd. In his first year with us he had 44 tackles and 7 sacks and was one of the best pass rushing DT's in the league.

You can slam Deebo all you want but I guarantee you weren't saying that stuff about him when he was here. He isn't a diva like Aiuyk. Not even close. The dude wants to win.

And Farrell has been good? How? He has done nothing and doesn't see the field over Juice. Woerner is 10x the blocker Farrell is and is cheaper. It was a panic signing and we over paid after we F'ed up and let Woerner leave.

Same for Robinson. We let superior player leave and replaced him with a worse one. Plain and simple. I like Brian Robinson but he isn't in Jordan Masons class.

Sugar coat it all you want but these guys never thought we would be 10-4 and they failed big time by not making roster moves to improve the team. We have the cap space, we will have the cap space next year and we should have gone all in for a chance to win the SB at home.

We've had the 8th hardest schedule in the league SOS wise. Where does this "easiest schedule" keep coming from??

What are you talking about?

We are currently at the 28th easiest schedule now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1p0i88g/strength_of_schedule_start_vs_finish_for_each_team/#lightbox

https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2025-nfl-strength-schedule-ranking-every-team-slate

Even in the offseason they knew they had the easiest schedule based on last years W-L records and this front office still decided to cut a bunch of productive guys and let other productive guys leave as free agents and not upgrade one single position. And knowing the SB was at home this year makes it even worse.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2025-nfl-strength-schedule-ranking-every-team-slate

Even in the offseason they knew they had the easiest schedule based on last years W-L records and this front office still decided to cut a bunch of productive guys and let other productive guys leave as free agents and not upgrade one single position. And knowing the SB was at home this year makes it even worse.

Yeah cause if you weren't a casual fan you would understand we had to get the salary cap in control. But your whole schtick of b***hing about moves made is all you have to contribute so carry on.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
All you talk about is the salary cap. But now that we got rid of the Aiuyk debacle we will have $61.7 mil in cap space next year.

But you're telling me we couldn't afford 10 mil each for Maliek Collins and Javon Hargrave? we could have easily restructure them.

And yes, Alfred Collins may be good but he isn't right now. 10 tackles, 0 sacks and 12 pressures with a 47.2 grade from PFF and we still can't stop the run. He isn't close to what Maliek or Hargrave would have brought.

That's my whole point. A home SB and an easy schedule and we cut productive players. Keeping those two guys wouldn't have prevented us from drafting Collins either and we wouldn't be forced to start Kalia Davis or Jordan Elliot at DT.

But I get it. Guys like you need to throw constant praise on our own players and slam guys when they are gone. It's what you guys always do. Like it's some kind of coping mechanism.

You find me one publication that had Nick Martin as a 3rd round pick. Everyone had him as a 5th round or later pick. He was over drafted and he doesn't have a position on the team. It was a wasted pick if he can't play anything other than WILL. We do it every single year and waste picks like they are candy.

Greenlaw would have stayed if we paid him what he wanted. Same for Hufunga. 15 mil a year for an All Pro safety is peanuts.

And saying Hargrave didn't do anything for us is absurd. In his first year with us he had 44 tackles and 7 sacks and was one of the best pass rushing DT's in the league.

You can slam Deebo all you want but I guarantee you weren't saying that stuff about him when he was here. He isn't a diva like Aiuyk. Not even close. The dude wants to win.

And Farrell has been good? How? He has done nothing and doesn't see the field over Juice. Woerner is 10x the blocker Farrell is and is cheaper. It was a panic signing and we over paid after we F'ed up and let Woerner leave.

Same for Robinson. We let superior player leave and replaced him with a worse one. Plain and simple. I like Brian Robinson but he isn't in Jordan Masons class.

Sugar coat it all you want but these guys never thought we would be 10-4 and they failed big time by not making roster moves to improve the team. We have the cap space, we will have the cap space next year and we should have gone all in for a chance to win the SB at home.

Maybe you should just start following the RoughRiders and leave the NFL to the people who at least have some idea of what's going on. Deebo didn't want to stay. Greenlaw didn't want to stay. Hargrave might have been okay his first year, but after that he was mostly hurt and hardly ever a factor. And yes, AB81Rules is an expert on the salary cap, and the forum is lucky to have his contributions, because the cap plays a big role in how teams are able to develop and what choices their front offices need to make. And unlike most of your posts, his are based on tangible data rather than pie in the sky wish fulfilment. There is a difference, you know.

Yea we have a lot of respect for AB over here so no shade on SA but let's be respectful and get our points out with a little less bass in our voices now

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2025-nfl-strength-schedule-ranking-every-team-slate

Even in the offseason they knew they had the easiest schedule based on last years W-L records and this front office still decided to cut a bunch of productive guys and let other productive guys leave as free agents and not upgrade one single position. And knowing the SB was at home this year makes it even worse.

Yeah cause if you weren't a casual fan you would understand we had to get the salary cap in control. But your whole schtick of b***hing about moves made is all you have to contribute so carry on.

We had plenty of money to keep the guys if they wanted to stay and even more next year.

The salary cap noise is just that. Noise.

Only casual fans believe that when Lynch said they need to do a reset it wasn't because of the cap, it was because York told him to cut salary because he was tired of not getting any returns on his investments.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
What are you talking about?

We are currently at the 28th easiest schedule now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1p0i88g/strength_of_schedule_start_vs_finish_for_each_team/#lightbox

The link you sent is a month old.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2025/index.htm

Sort by sos.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Maybe you should just start following the RoughRiders and leave the NFL to the people who at least have some idea of what's going on. Deebo didn't want to stay. Greenlaw didn't want to stay. Hargrave might have been okay his first year, but after that he was mostly hurt and hardly ever a factor. And yes, AB81Rules is an expert on the salary cap, and the forum is lucky to have his contributions, because the cap plays a big role in how teams are able to develop and what choices their front offices need to make. And unlike most of your posts, his are based on tangible data rather than pie in the sky wish fulfilment. There is a difference, you know.

Oh the good old "if you dare criticize anyone on this team" then go cheer for another team OR if you question / criticize anything forget about it and leave it to people who know what is going on IE: people who only share the same ideas. (Sheep)

Classic mob mentality stuff. Try to find some new material instead of regurgitating whatever everyone else in here is spewing.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Maybe you should just start following the RoughRiders and leave the NFL to the people who at least have some idea of what's going on. Deebo didn't want to stay. Greenlaw didn't want to stay. Hargrave might have been okay his first year, but after that he was mostly hurt and hardly ever a factor. And yes, AB81Rules is an expert on the salary cap, and the forum is lucky to have his contributions, because the cap plays a big role in how teams are able to develop and what choices their front offices need to make. And unlike most of your posts, his are based on tangible data rather than pie in the sky wish fulfilment. There is a difference, you know.

Oh the good old "if you dare criticize anyone on this team" then go cheer for another team OR if you question / criticize anything forget about it and leave it to people who know what is going on IE: people who only share the same ideas. (Sheep)

Classic mob mentality stuff. Try to find some new material instead of regurgitating whatever everyone else in here is spewing.

Let me put a marker down here and if any poster doesn't like it, that will be their problem. Sask, your response is just as sheep-like as you are accusing 81 of being. So, you make a long list of criticisms of the team and if anyone comes back challenging these criticisms, you come out with the mob mentality crap. But oddly, you believe that you are allowed to wage an ongoing and very repetitive campaign of rubbishing every part of the team and you believe that this should not be challenged by another poster, because they would then just be regurgitated what everyone else is spewing.

And when a mod picks you up on it, you claim that we are forcing our own opinions on the site and telling all the other posters what to think. Which is b******t of course, but it is the line that several of the more unpleasant posters have pushed time after time in the past, to try to excuse their style of posting before they got banned. And interestingly your style reminds me of several of them.

You claim to have a right to post your negativity based on a long standing fanhood of the team. The owner of this site is a firm believer in freedom of speech and the mods here try to accommodate this. But regularly we find ourselves having to deal with posters who are fans of other teams and just want to troll. And oddly enough they invariably claim to be longstanding supporters of the team who merely want to put their own viewpoint forward. And when we check on their history, it turns out their viewpoint is just hating on virtually every aspect of the team.

The purpose of this forum is to provide a place where supporters of the team can come and enjoy discussion and reasoned argument with other supporters. They don't have to agree with each other but the argument has to be reasoned and pleasant. People who think that is regurgitating what everyone else is spewing, are clearly not interested in reasoned and pleasant discussion. If you think this is mob mentality stuff, this says a great deal about you and your attitude and nothing at all about this forum. The purpose of the mods here, aside from disposing of the trolls, is to intervene when tempers get a little high and stop things getting out of hand. If you genuinely believe that, as it would seem from your posts, you disapprove of everything about this team from the Yorks down, it is time for you to find another forum to vent in. A 49ers supporter who has nothing good to say about the team isn't a 49ers supporter.

And before you jerk the same old garbage in response, try reading through some of the other threads. The ones where genuine fans enjoy a pleasant discussion, and some even learn from others. People are supposed to enjoy coming here. Hopefully most of them do. You could try it.

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IF they trade Burrow - and I doubt it - the asking price will be astronomical.

It will not go to an AFC team.

Les Snead won't care

And they have the ammo and cap space to do it. Disgusting

They have an aggressive GM who makes moves to put them over the top. Unlike ours.

Imagine if the Rams had the easiest schedule in the league and the SB in their barn. How many moves would they make? The only moves we made were releasing guys who would have helped us this year and letting guys leave to go on and be stud players on other teams.

Eh don't agree with that. But each his own

What's not to agree with? please explain to me how Lynch has made our team better than the team we had last year? If it isn't for a league easiest schedule, CMC playing out of his mind and great coaching we wouldn't have won a game.

But how about some reference:

-Not re-signing Hufunga who is on his way to a Pro Bowl and replacing him with Jason Pinnock.

-Cutting Maliek Collins (74.5 PFF, 28 pressures and 8 sacks) and replacing him with Alfred Collins.

-letting Greenlaw leave (74.4 PFF) and replacing him with Luke Gifford.

-cutting Javon Hargrave (67.5 PFF, 28 pressures, 4 sacks) and replacing him with CJ West.

-Trading Deebo who has 604 yards and 5 TD's and replacing him with Demarcus Robinson.

-giving 16.8 million dollars to Luke Farrell for 15 snaps a game and letting a better TE walk in Charlie Woerner a year before for 12 mil

-Trading Jordan Mason (659 rushing yards, 4.7 YPC, 6 TDs and replacing him with Brian Robinson

-Drafting a DE 11th overall who isn't a great pass rusher.

-Drafting a LB with a 5th round grade in round 3 who can't see the field over guys like Luke Gifford, Curtis Robinson and former 7th round pick Tatum Bethune. Why even take him if all he can play is WILL and we already had Winters?

That's just brilliant GM'ing there and excellent roster decisions. Literally every player we let leave was replaced with a replacement level quality player.

They keep shooting themselves in the foot. Huff playing like one of the best safeties in the game😆

I've watched a few Denver games and he hasn't even played close to that level. He still isn't great in coverage, whiffs tackles, and takes poor angles that leads to big plays or touchdowns.

He has a 72 overall(21st out of 98 safeties) from PFF so hes not great there either

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/talanoa-hufanga/83903

0 picks for one of the "best safeties in the game"

crazy work

I don't know, 21st out of 98. Maybe not Pro Bowl caliber exactly, but with 64 starters in the league that puts him in the upper third. Could be worse. I wonder what Mustapha and Brown are grading out to at the moment.