John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Analytics are a wonderful tool but I think they may have led the 49ers to some poor strategies over the past few years.
Philosophies I hope are gone with Baalke:
BPA philosophy regardless of team needs
Avoid drafting a QB early because it might turn out to be a mistake
Value drafting (ACL picks are a product of this)
Hoarding salary cap money when the team has so many holes

It's not about drafting a QB early or late. It's about drafting the right QB...whether that's with the top 5 pick or in the 3rd round. Many QBs are drafted early who are absolute busts. 2 of them are on our roster.

What hurt more than anything though was Baalke's "sexy" picks and trying to outsmart everyone. That killed this team. We should not be anywhere near this bad

Love the hire total opposite of Baalke a true leader with a great personality and most important a people person someone that understands the team concept.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Analytics are a wonderful tool but I think they may have led the 49ers to some poor strategies over the past few years.
Philosophies I hope are gone with Baalke:
BPA philosophy regardless of team needs
Avoid drafting a QB early because it might turn out to be a mistake
Value drafting (ACL picks are a product of this)
Hoarding salary cap money when the team has so many holes

Don't agree with that, at least the way you phrase it.

If you have a need at QB but are stacked at S and the best player on your board when you're on the clock is a safety you have graded at 7.1 and a QB at 6.7, you take the QB.

If the next QB is graded at 5.5 you take the safety...or the next highest graded position that is a need but within reason.

You don't want to reach for players who you're not even that high on just because you need the position. That will not improve your team long term.

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Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Analytics are a wonderful tool but I think they may have led the 49ers to some poor strategies over the past few years.
Philosophies I hope are gone with Baalke:
BPA philosophy regardless of team needs
Avoid drafting a QB early because it might turn out to be a mistake
Value drafting (ACL picks are a product of this)
Hoarding salary cap money when the team has so many holes

It's not about drafting a QB early or late. It's about drafting the right QB...whether that's with the top 5 pick or in the 3rd round. Many QBs are drafted early who are absolute busts. 2 of them are on our roster.

What hurt more than anything though was Baalke's "sexy" picks and trying to outsmart everyone. That killed this team. We should not be anywhere near this bad

Early for the 49ers in rounds 1-4. In this century, the team has drafted a grand total of two QBs in rounds 1-4 which is unusual even for a team that has a FQB.

I agree completely that they have to get the right QB. I am OK with however they do it but they better get on it right away rather than kicking the can down the road.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Aww man, Lynch is already a puppet for Jed:

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/01/john-lynch-explains-how-hell-lean-on-unbelievable-asset-paraag-marathe/

I was afraid of this, first time GM turned "Yes Man", towing the company line and stroking Paraag already.

"I don't think it's going to be a big part of what we do..."

Translation: Paraag, Hampton and their team of analytics can f**k off...





...but I do need them for contracts so I'll play nice

That is my take on him too. Also by admitting that he was testing them for notorious leaks shows the the shoe is on the other foot here. I am starting to love his kick ass ways.

Also this is strongly showing that Baalke many have been a way bigger jackoff then we all thought. Maybe Paraag isn't so evil as made out to be? I have a feeling this will take time, but be far better.

For me, it's not about Paraag being evil but rather, Jed's mole and money ball tactics...from perceived ACL values, to street FA's, to Beadles-like free agents, to 2nd most cap space now to trading back and accumulating extra draft picks (playing the probability game) to the number of folks attached to this work to various other areas this field comes into play (how to hire a head coach, down and distance stats, booth advice), etc. it all reeks of money ball to me.

Now that Baalke is gone, we should get a better gauge of reality going forward and the influence of Paraag.

Either way, it's awesome to hear Lynch question this while still playing nice. He's no puppet and he has a real chance to turn the culture around from the inside.

I agree which is why I think it will work. It's a healthy fresh start as far as we can tell. Think about it, what good does being an invasive jerk do for Paraag, or at least the status quo - if he was part to blame? If they keep failing hes out of a job right? Eventually moron Jed will realize the one constant throughout all of his failures besides himself is Paraag lol and you dont fire owners.......So just keeping it simple maybe Baalke was the real issue as time went by.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Analytics are a wonderful tool but I think they may have led the 49ers to some poor strategies over the past few years.
Philosophies I hope are gone with Baalke:
BPA philosophy regardless of team needs
Avoid drafting a QB early because it might turn out to be a mistake
Value drafting (ACL picks are a product of this)
Hoarding salary cap money when the team has so many holes

Don't agree with that, at least the way you phrase it.

If you have a need at QB but are stacked at S and the best player on your board when you're on the clock is a safety you have graded at 7.1 and a QB at 6.7, you take the QB.

If the next QB is graded at 5.5 you take the safety...or the next highest graded position that is a need but within reason.

You don't want to reach for players who you're not even that high on just because you need the position. That will not improve your team long term.

I agree on overreaching but the 49ers have passed on QBs that have become successful. If you have a player that fills a great need and is the guy you want go ahead and reach for him to be sure you get him.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Aww man, Lynch is already a puppet for Jed:

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/01/john-lynch-explains-how-hell-lean-on-unbelievable-asset-paraag-marathe/

I was afraid of this, first time GM turned "Yes Man", towing the company line and stroking Paraag already.

"I don't think it's going to be a big part of what we do..."

Translation: Paraag, Hampton and their team of analytics can f**k off...





...but I do need them for contracts so I'll play nice

That is my take on him too. Also by admitting that he was testing them for notorious leaks shows the the shoe is on the other foot here. I am starting to love his kick ass ways.

Also this is strongly showing that Baalke many have been a way bigger jackoff then we all thought. Maybe Paraag isn't so evil as made out to be? I have a feeling this will take time, but be far better.

For me, it's not about Paraag being evil but rather, Jed's mole and money ball tactics...from perceived ACL values, to street FA's, to Beadles-like free agents, to 2nd most cap space now to trading back and accumulating extra draft picks (playing the probability game) to the number of folks attached to this work to various other areas this field comes into play (how to hire a head coach, down and distance stats, booth advice), etc. it all reeks of money ball to me.

Now that Baalke is gone, we should get a better gauge of reality going forward and the influence of Paraag.

Either way, it's awesome to hear Lynch question this while still playing nice. He's no puppet and he has a real chance to turn the culture around from the inside.

If they trade back, avoid drafting a QB early, draft injured guys, avoid WRs and don't make a big splash in FA it will look like business as usual but it doesn;t sound like that is the case. Fingers crosses indeed!

Yeah...trades too. When you're talking money ball it's all about finding value at the cheapest price. That's almost a direct quote from Paraag himself. We're seeing similar moves and approaches in Cleveland.

It doesn't mean it can't pay off...we did well on trades, accumulated the most picks over the past 4 years, have the most cap room right now, etc.

Now we need to find the value. And hopefully a better team of trigger men can accomplish that in and around money ball...if that's even in play anymore (thank you John Lynch!).

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I agree on overreaching but the 49ers have passed on QBs that have become successful. If you have a player that fills a great need and is the guy you want go ahead and reach for him to be sure you get him.

Absolutely agree...but then if they felt that strongly about a player the grade would reflect that :)

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

People associated with the NFL praise PM for his skills regarding contracts.

I'm also glad that we have a s**tload of cap space ready to go for our new front office.

Thank you PM for not Terry Donahueing us.

Contract wise, no doubt, he's the best in the biz!

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Early for the 49ers in rounds 1-4. In this century, the team has drafted a grand total of two QBs in rounds 1-4 which is unusual even for a team that has a FQB.

I agree completely that they have to get the right QB. I am OK with however they do it but they better get on it right away rather than kicking the can down the road.

The million dollar question. Are one of these kids a franchise QB?! What if we miss out on him?! What if we draft Trubisky and hes terrible and we could have gone a different route?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

I agree which is why I think it will work. It's a healthy fresh start as far as we can tell. Think about it, what good does being an invasive jerk do for Paraag, or at least the status quo - if he was part to blame? If they keep failing hes out of a job right? Eventually moron Jed will realize the one constant throughout all of his failures besides himself is Paraag lol and you dont fire owners.......So just keeping it simple maybe Baalke was the real issue as time went by.

Excellent point...dude had been here 16 years now. BFF or not, Jed will have to start listening to Lynch if the football guys are clashing with the money ball guys.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Early for the 49ers in rounds 1-4. In this century, the team has drafted a grand total of two QBs in rounds 1-4 which is unusual even for a team that has a FQB.

I agree completely that they have to get the right QB. I am OK with however they do it but they better get on it right away rather than kicking the can down the road.

The million dollar question. Are one of these kids a franchise QB?! What if we miss out on him?! What if we draft Trubisky and hes terrible and we could have gone a different route?

That is up to Lynch and Shanahan to get right immediately. That is why they were hired.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

I agree on overreaching but the 49ers have passed on QBs that have become successful. If you have a player that fills a great need and is the guy you want go ahead and reach for him to be sure you get him.

Absolutely agree...but then if they felt that strongly about a player the grade would reflect that :)

Good point, the philosophy seems to have led the 49ers to overvalue DBs and DEs while undervaluing QBs and WRs.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The million dollar question. Are one of these kids a franchise QB?! What if we miss out on him?! What if we draft Trubisky and hes terrible and we could have gone a different route?

I think someone said it around here and I agree 100%.

You may draft a bust at QB and it will suck that you by passed a stud DE or WR, whatever other position. But the one thing that will suck the most is having a need at QB and passing on an elite QB talent to draft a stud DE/WR, etc...

As good as that other guy may be he will never have the same impact of an elite QB which is why you have to take those chances...but you have to believe in the player and shouldn't just draft one in the first round and hope he sticks.