John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Similar or the same? It was reported that only the Bears ACTUALLY offered two firsts and the Raiders still had to give up their own 2nd to be able to say, they got 2 1sts out of the deal.

Neither the Jets or Niners made the same and they were "finalists."

Also, any FO will play one team against the other in negotiations and give everyone a chance to 1-up the best offer.

Clearly, we did not make the best offer.

Who was reporting that? People can throw out whatever they want but we heard it straight from the horses mouth (lynch)...people can say he's lying but for the most part this FO and coaching staff have been very transparent.

Gruden made his choice to send him to the Bears and not keep him in their backyard. Turns out it was a bad move for him...again

There are two things to this.

1. We would have never made a trade with the Raiders because of the insane backlash and storyline that would create with these to local franchises. The Raiders would not have traded with us for three firsts in my mind. It is the same idea with Jimmy G and how the Patriots rather not trade him to the Browns for a better deal. I don't believe the same conference BS because Gruden would have traded within the AFC for a good deal if he could and BB would have never traded to help his old team. I really wouldn't blame Gruden for taking us off their list of trade partners for him.

2. While understanding the first point I think it is a knock on Lynch that he couldn't say he made a better offer. The bears actually gave up less than two first round picks to get Mack and with how bad we need an edge rusher and how much cap room we had with the level of player he is, we really should have offered at least 2 first round picks and asked only Mack back in return. You can say we won't know if he did or didn't but I think its pretty obvious we didn't offer a better deal.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by susweel:
I bet other GMs around league probably hate john lynch because how much he blabs to the media about trade negotiations.

He's a PR guy and trying to show that they are trying.

We almost got Mack!

We bet on Marsh so let's just deal with it.

empty suit. lotta hot air to me

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

Hey it's straight from the horse's mouth. I respect all opinions but coming from him has higher credibility.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by susweel:

I bet other GMs around league probably hate john lynch because how much he blabs to the media about trade negotiations.

He's a PR guy and trying to show that they are trying.

We almost got Mack!

We bet on Marsh so let's just deal with it.

empty suit. lotta hot air to me

Indeed

The honeymoon is over

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by susweel:

I bet other GMs around league probably hate john lynch because how much he blabs to the media about trade negotiations.

He's a PR guy and trying to show that they are trying.

We almost got Mack!

We bet on Marsh so let's just deal with it.

empty suit. lotta hot air to me

says the king of...

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

Hey it's straight from the horse's mouth. I respect all opinions but coming from him has higher credibility.

Completely agree

Originally posted by zeppfan1:
says the king of...

which has nothing to do with the fact that some of us just do not believe what lynch says. sue us

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

i always respect you!

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

This - all day, any day.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

i always respect you!

Feeling is mutual cc

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

i always respect you!

Feeling is mutual cc

some people think i have multiple accounts but i can not figure out the beer glass clanging thing let alone manage or create multiple accounts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
If Jimmy had broken his Achilles during the time of the Mack trade talks I bet the Raiders would had considered the 49ers offer as on par with CHI. I do think that at the time of the Mack trade, CHI was probably thought to have earlier picks in the round than the 49ers.

This ^ it's pretty easy to see why they moved mack to Chicago vs SF before the season started.

People want to get mad because we didn't get him but there's more to it then trading picks.

I agree with both posts here. Plus, and I know this has been mentioned...here in the Bay Area, with the Raiders gone at least the season after next (and potentially as soon as next season), it just seems like they'd have a hard time trading with their cross-bay rivals. Talk about pissing off their fan base even more! Regardless, I've long since moved on and looking forward to the potential difference-makers at ER in this upcoming draft.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

i always respect you!

Feeling is mutual cc

some people think i have multiple accounts but i can not figure out the beer glass clanging thing let alone manage or create multiple accounts

I have 150% backed you up, and still do, on this. I know you don't have multiple accounts, that's not your style. You are also not a troll, you just have valid concerns and can be a bit or a worry wart , but def not a troll

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Other posters here say Lynch didn't pursue him hard enough. Will these posters please provide hard evidence of that so we can show them that Lynch is a joke as a GM. *Sarcasm - just in case.

you are basing your statement on if you actually believe what he said. he says alot but does little in my opinion

I'll believe my dude Lynch over some dudes on the Internet

i always respect you!

Feeling is mutual cc

some people think i have multiple accounts but i can not figure out the beer glass clanging thing let alone manage or create multiple accounts

I have 150% backed you up, and still do, on this. I know you don't have multiple accounts, that's not your style. You are also not a troll, you just have valid concerns and can be a bit or a worry wart , but def not a troll

that is the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me anyone that can name the starting backfield of the awesome 71 72 and 73 teams has to be somewhat of a die hard fan and who also knows who willie mcgee is or was