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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If it was similar offer, I would have pushed it up just a little bit more. Assuming the Raiders didn't just take the Bears' offer without talking to us first, of course.
Originally posted by jcs:If Jimmy had broken his Achilles during the time of the Mack trade talks I bet the Raiders would had considered the 49ers offer as on par with CHI. I do think that at the time of the Mack trade, CHI was probably thought to have earlier picks in the round than the 49ers.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If it was similar offer, I would have pushed it up just a little bit more. Assuming the Raiders didn't just take the Bears' offer without talking to us first, of course.
Similar could mean not as much but close was offered. Should have just told the Faiders I'll match and top any offer on the table. I bet two firsts and no other picks like the raiders had to give back to the bears would have landed. him.
Originally posted by thl408:The Faiders gave back a 2nd round pick. That's a lot of value that could have been taken off the table and potentially finalized a trade.
Originally posted by jcs:If Jimmy had broken his Achilles during the time of the Mack trade talks I bet the Raiders would had considered the 49ers offer as on par with CHI. I do think that at the time of the Mack trade, CHI was probably thought to have earlier picks in the round than the 49ers.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If it was similar offer, I would have pushed it up just a little bit more. Assuming the Raiders didn't just take the Bears' offer without talking to us first, of course.
Similar could mean not as much but close was offered. Should have just told the Faiders I'll match and top any offer on the table. I bet two firsts and no other picks like the raiders had to give back to the bears would have landed. him.
Originally posted by NCommand:Similar or the same? It was reported that only the Bears ACTUALLY offered two firsts and the Raiders still had to give up their own 2nd to be able to say, they got 2 1sts out of the deal.
Neither the Jets or Niners made the same and they were "finalists."
Also, any FO will play one team against the other in negotiations and give everyone a chance to 1-up the best offer.
Clearly, we did not make the best offer.
Originally posted by thl408:If Jimmy had broken his Achilles during the time of the Mack trade talks I bet the Raiders would had considered the 49ers offer as on par with CHI. I do think that at the time of the Mack trade, CHI was probably thought to have earlier picks in the round than the 49ers.Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:If it was similar offer, I would have pushed it up just a little bit more. Assuming the Raiders didn't just take the Bears' offer without talking to us first, of course.
Similar could mean not as much but close was offered. Should have just told the Faiders I'll match and top any offer on the table. I bet two firsts and no other picks like the raiders had to give back to the bears would have landed. him.
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Lynch just said on local radio. "We actually gave an offer very similar to the bears. Not sure why they chose to go with them"
So unless you wanted to give up even more, we can put that to rest.
Similar or the same? It was reported that only the Bears ACTUALLY offered two firsts and the Raiders still had to give up their own 2nd to be able to say, they got 2 1sts out of the deal.
Neither the Jets or Niners made the same and they were "finalists."
Also, any FO will play one team against the other in negotiations and give everyone a chance to 1-up the best offer.
Clearly, we did not make the best offer.
Just as clearly, this will be the biggest mistake made by GM/HC for a very long time. This was one of those 6 pak deals...2 firsts, 2 seconds, and 2 thirds. We would have come out like bandits, even with a haul like that. Khalil is a once in a generation guy. We muffed it. I hope they learned a lesson here.
Nooooo. You don't come out like a bandit giving all that and signing a massive deal! For one, your cap is f**ked cuz we have jimmy, Mack, gonna sign buck soon. So you gotta rely on cheaper rookie deals to fill out your roster. Except we have no high draft picks. Totally f**ked in that situation.
Originally posted by thl408:If Jimmy had broken his Achilles during the time of the Mack trade talks I bet the Raiders would had considered the 49ers offer as on par with CHI. I do think that at the time of the Mack trade, CHI was probably thought to have earlier picks in the round than the 49ers.
Originally posted by English:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Lynch just said on local radio. "We actually gave an offer very similar to the bears. Not sure why they chose to go with them"
So unless you wanted to give up even more, we can put that to rest.
Similar or the same? It was reported that only the Bears ACTUALLY offered two firsts and the Raiders still had to give up their own 2nd to be able to say, they got 2 1sts out of the deal.
Neither the Jets or Niners made the same and they were "finalists."
Also, any FO will play one team against the other in negotiations and give everyone a chance to 1-up the best offer.
Clearly, we did not make the best offer.
Just as clearly, this will be the biggest mistake made by GM/HC for a very long time. This was one of those 6 pak deals...2 firsts, 2 seconds, and 2 thirds. We would have come out like bandits, even with a haul like that. Khalil is a once in a generation guy. We muffed it. I hope they learned a lesson here.
Nooooo. You don't come out like a bandit giving all that and signing a massive deal! For one, your cap is f**ked cuz we have jimmy, Mack, gonna sign buck soon. So you gotta rely on cheaper rookie deals to fill out your roster. Except we have no high draft picks. Totally f**ked in that situation.
2 1sts, 2 2nds and 2 3rds? Two years of drafts, to all intents and purposes. I am genuinely hugely pleased and relieved that the team did not make a deal like that.
yet people are totally willing to give up two drafts to get ONE player AND that ONE player would command one of the richest defensive contracts in history.
Originally posted by susweel:
I bet other GMs around league probably hate john lynch because how much he blabs to the media about trade negotiations.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by susweel:
I bet other GMs around league probably hate john lynch because how much he blabs to the media about trade negotiations.
He's a PR guy and trying to show that they are trying.
We almost got Mack!