Let's face it this team is going to suck!!!! | Page 4

IHATELOWELLCOHN · 2016-07-17T19:18:32-07:00

The worst part about it is nobody but us care. I mean I'm sure the coaching staff cares but that's about it. With the news of Aron Lynch's 4 games suspension for PEDs which I'm sure he takes for a bad back because he's constantly overweight it just removed our best pass rusher for a quarter of the season. I'm tired of looking at the glass half full that's all I've done the last two years. All that's happened is a mass exodus of semi talented players with no attempt to talk them into staying. I'm done with the FO show me something. Erik Pears, Reggie Bush, Brandon Lloyd, Jerome Simpson, Erik Pears!!!!! A bunch of crappy injury riddled OL drafted who have amounted to crap! Jim Tomsula the plumber! The 49ers are my passion and Jed was off to such a phenomenal start but let his ego get in the way. What does he have to change? Nothing his team is a cash cow now vaulted to the top 10 most expensive franchises in sports. I know the kid wants to win but does he want to win more than turning a profit? What did they do this offseason besides hire Chip Kelly which is definitely a step up or 10 from Tomsula but without the players what's it matter? Krap and Gabbert are still our QBs and there were no additions besides Beadles, a guy from the CFL and skill position players that aren't exactly eye popping. Another ho hum Baalke draft! Our OL, QBs, WRs, and LBs still lack just like last year. Isn't the point to improve the weak areas. Nope let's draft 50 CBs! Pretty clear to me this year will look a lot like last year maybe just not as boring. Wow that's really great. So little to look forward to. We are going to suck and still probably won't get a QB next year. Baalke who I am sure will still be around will probably draft a top 5 safety. Crap!!!

Jul 18, 2016 at 9:36 AM

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cciowa
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Originally posted by mojave45:
I suggest holding your breath while you wait.

just imagine if we have a good year, trent stays and alot of people would be pissed

Jul 18, 2016 at 9:39 AM

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D0PEMAN
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Let's face it, we have no idea what's really going to happen.

Jul 18, 2016 at 9:42 AM

#48

mojave45
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by mojave45:
I suggest holding your breath while you wait.

just imagine if we have a good year, trent stays and alot of people would be pissed

I know, apoplexy would certainly run rampant. I can only dream. As a fan having an unexpectedly good run would make me deliriously happy. Trent staying would be ok... but seeing the Boo Birds gag on it would be as much fun as winning.

Jul 18, 2016 at 9:50 AM

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How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

Jul 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM

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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

Nick Foles > Gabbernick

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

They actually had talent on offense and played in a weak division.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jul 18, 2016 at 10:16 AM ]

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

They actually had talent on offense and played in a weak division.

enough talent to go 4-12...

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

Nick Foles > Gabbernick

Well maybe, but mainly they had a good deal of poorly coached talent just sitting there when he walked in.

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

They actually had talent on offense and played in a weak division.

enough talent to go 4-12...

Yep, but the coaching changed. Interesting how that can make a teams talent pool suddenly look better.

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Is that you Lowell Cohn?

Originally posted by cciowa:
i think it is foolish to declare the season and our team dead on july18th. i will believe we will suck when I see it.

This. Nobody knows or has a clue one way or another with such a small sample size (NFL snaps) to work with, new coaching staff, new scheme, new QB battle, new draft picks, etc. No clue.

Yes, the PROBABILITY of us struggling through a rebuild year (year 1 or 2 depending on your perspective) is more likely than not. But no sh!t. That's the same as saying we have a high probability of making the playoffs when we had a top roster too.

When you factor in all of the youth and low snap counts towards their career thus far (basically, last year), the SOS, travel, QB battle, overall age of the roster, new HC, new systems, the time it takes to install new systems, unknown about O'Neil, etc. the chance of us being a 5-7 win team is highly probable...but that doesn't mean we'll, "suck" --- it just means we shouldn't measure success this year on W-L's given the aforementioned and most seem to have pretty realistic expectations this year as a result.

All these factors COULD end up being a great thing in the end (blessing)...we travel the most and we play the toughest teams. As a result, this young growing team, if they are to be successful, MUST learn to bring it every week and learn how to win on the road, in non-ideal circumstances and learn to play very consistently (whether away or home).

They are going to lose some battles this year, no doubt, but hopefully, that means they win the war in the future.

Even with all that said, this is the NFL and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we were scratching at the door of the playoffs, even at this juncture. The NFL is just odd that way.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 18, 2016 at 10:45 AM ]

Jul 18, 2016 at 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
How many wins did the Eagles have before Chip took over and turned them into a 10 win team? Why not the same type of turnaround with us?

They actually had talent on offense and played in a weak division.

enough talent to go 4-12...

We had talent in 2010 and went 7-9.

Kelly came in and showed off the talent that was there in philly. I dont see that type of talent on offense here.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jul 18, 2016 at 11:03 AM ]

Jul 18, 2016 at 11:00 AM

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I think we will surprise a lot of people!!

Jul 18, 2016 at 11:02 AM

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lol

Jul 18, 2016 at 11:06 AM

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Honestly, I think this team will surprise some people and that isn't necessarily a good thing. I think they'll win enough games to knock them out of the hunt for a good QB prospect in the draft.

Jul 18, 2016 at 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Honestly, I think this team will surprise some people and that isn't necessarily a good thing. I think they'll win enough games to knock them out of the hunt for a good QB prospect in the draft.

I really don't know how I feel about this..