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InsertNameHere1 · 2015-06-14T08:17:40-07:00

This has been a tough offseason for our defense, but is it really as bad as the media wants to say it is.... Players Lost- Willis J.Smith Borland Ray Mac Cully Cox (I'm probably forgetting someone) Players Gained(drafted,returning from injury or suspension) Armstead Eli Tarrt Reaser Acker Dorsey Ian Bow Aldon (I'm probably forgetting some of these guys too) When you look at what we've lost, compared to what we've gained, I think that we've definitely gained more. Having Aldon focused, and in a contract year, is going to be a nightmare for opposing offenses. He's been saying that he's in the best shape of his career. Also, the reports coming from OTAs is that Bow is looking really good, but I'll reserve my judgement until the pads go on. It is nice to hear though. Our two CBs(reaser,acker)are also looking exceptional, by all accounts. I think that the biggest unknown to me is how the players will respond to Mangini. I was never that big of a Vic fan so I'm pretty excited to see what Eric brings to the table. Is it realistic to expect the same amount of INTs as last year, I doubt it, but I think that we will definitely have way more sacks. I think that the defense will definitely be more aggressive than last year. They might give up a few bigger plays, but generally speaking, they will be better. So what are some of your guys expectations for our defense this year?

Jun 15, 2015 at 11:17 AM

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thl408
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Which position do you think is the deepest? Running back

Which position are you concerned with the most? Offensive guards

Jun 15, 2015 at 11:32 AM

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thl408
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I just realized this thread is about defense and my answers were stupid.

Which position do you think is the deepest? Outside Linebacker

Which position are you concerned with the most? Defensive End

Jun 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Which position do you think is the deepest?

Which position are you concerned with the most?

I know that Wilhoite played a lot last year, and Bow is going to be back, but ILB worries me the most.

Our D-Line, CBs and OLB seem to be pretty stout.

Which position do you think is the deepest? DL, RB and OLB are like 1, 1A and 1AA. One could even make a stronger argument for S and CB as well. I tend to look at the types of positions (like the X, Y & Z...look at starters at depth).

Which position are you concerned with the most? If CK goes down, perhaps QB but it sounds like Gabbert is making some nice strides. LT and C look good for depth and experience. LG (if Boone doesn't outright win that spot), or RG and RT (if Boone doesn't outright win that spot). Probably RT right now.

I know that Wilhoite played a lot last year, and Bow is going to be back, but ILB worries me the most. Not too worried there here either unless Bowman is hurt. ILB is by far, the easiest position to step in a produce big numbers and we have veterans for depth there.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 15, 2015 at 12:53 PM ]

Jun 15, 2015 at 11:43 AM

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2015 defense=32ND in the league

Jun 15, 2015 at 11:52 AM

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9moon
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Which position do you think is the deepest?

Which position are you concerned with the most?

I know that Wilhoite played a lot last year, and Bow is going to be back, but ILB worries me the most.

Our D-Line, CBs and OLB seem to be pretty stout.

... OL - most proven so I rank them 1st

WR
RB
DL
LB
SECONDARY - ?????????????????????????????????? this crew can be as bad as the Bruce Thornton, Shawntae Spencer, Tony Parrish & Mike Adams secondary and only as good as Middlebroks, Spencer, Parrish & Adams..

Jun 15, 2015 at 12:18 PM

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With 2 pro bowl safeties??? Sure

Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by elguapo:
With 2 pro bowl safeties??? Sure

It's 9moon..... Do really have to ask.

Jun 15, 2015 at 12:53 PM

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NCommand
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
2015 defense=32ND in the league

That may match our offense from last year!

Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM

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I pray our offence is top 7 this year

Jun 15, 2015 at 1:01 PM

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Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Which position do you think is the deepest?

Which position are you concerned with the most?

I know that Wilhoite played a lot last year, and Bow is going to be back, but ILB worries me the most.

Our D-Line, CBs and OLB seem to be pretty stout.

... OL - most proven so I rank them 1st

WR
RB
DL
LB
SECONDARY - ?????????????????????????????????? this crew can be as bad as the Bruce Thornton, Shawntae Spencer, Tony Parrish & Mike Adams secondary and only as good as Middlebroks, Spencer, Parrish & Adams..

Wait what? Do you wear reverse glasses? Are you saying you are least worried about OL but most worried about WR, RB, DL, LB and esp. secondary?

Jun 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM

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Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by elguapo:
With 2 pro bowl safeties??? Sure

It's 9moon..... Do really have to ask.

here we go again..

Parrish too was a Pro Bowler..

you guys asks about people's opinion about the weakest link on defense, and others post aren't the same as yours, you guys get mad??

KNOW YOUR ROLE JABRONISSS!!!!

[ Edited by 9moon on Jun 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM ]

Jun 15, 2015 at 2:23 PM

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Originally posted by thl408:
I just realized this thread is about defense and my answers were stupid.

Which position do you think is the deepest? Outside Linebacker

Which position are you concerned with the most? Defensive End

Not NT?? C'mon thl this is Mangini's defense now and NOT Vic Fangio, didn't Mangini run more of a two-gap with his DL?? I just don't see any D-lineman that can last the season at NT along with playing a two-gap.

Jun 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM

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@ NC...

the 1st quesiton was "deepest position" - and my answer to that is OL

the most concerned - my answer was SECONDARY..

Jun 15, 2015 at 3:30 PM

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I think, well, hope, what we're going to see this year is a lot of rotation on the DL, kind of like the Giants during their Super Bowl runs... I think I remember them rotating about 9 guys in and out on theirs. We're definitely deep enough at the position.

It really comes down to Bowman's leg. That was a horrible injury. I just hope he's at like 80% of what he was, the more, the better.

Jun 15, 2015 at 3:37 PM

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thl408
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Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by thl408:
I just realized this thread is about defense and my answers were stupid.

Which position do you think is the deepest? Outside Linebacker

Which position are you concerned with the most? Defensive End

Not NT?? C'mon thl this is Mangini's defense now and NOT Vic Fangio, didn't Mangini run more of a two-gap with his DL?? I just don't see any D-lineman that can last the season at NT along with playing a two-gap.

I don't know if Mangini ran a two gap NT. I would look more to his time in CLE and NYJ than I would with NE, but I have no idea because why would anyone watch CLE and NYJ games back then?

I have questions about DE because the 49ers lost two excellent run stopping DEs in Raymac and Justin and are replacing them with guys that have never been starters (I don't see Dockett as a starter). They might be able to do the job, but this will be their first season doing it. If they are running a two gap system with the NT, then yes I would some concern whether Ian/Dorsey can handle the task, but I am most concerned with DE.