Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by jreff22:
"He's like a rookie QB that can only throw what he sees"

Billick on Kap from Mike and Mike

This. We can see this from Kaep for some time now. Waiting for him to get better.....

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by TWD_Fan:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Why didn't his QB coach teach him? The guy must have been great great as his job to get promoted to OC.

Isn't a question I can answer.

And this is why fans were getting on Kap for working on his body and speed. The NFL coaches primary job is to make sure the player knows the system and can apply the system. Yes, there are some fundamental things that are worked on but for a player to be fundamentally sound, they need to work on that themselves under extra time. And that doesn't mean go to a clinic for a month and that's it. That means stay after practice for the entire year to reapply and regroups those fundamentals you just learned during that monthly session.

This is the first year Kap has worked on his fundamentals on his own during the offseason. He is trying to put 4 years of fundamentals into three games and the failure from that is showing. NBA players work on strengthening one or two moves or aspects of their game per year.

Too bad Kap wasn't practicing to master little pieces of fundamentals throughout the years.

Just think, Luck has the MOST turnovers since 2014 and he supposedly is a 'cant miss' prospect! He's been in the same offense for 7 and still turns it over consistently! Kaep has 14 ints in 18 games and its because of his mechanics. yet for SOME reason luck gets a pass from the fans / our fans.

If Luck gets a pass, it may be because he has thrown for 45 TDs and 5500 yards in the same time span. When a quarterback is that productive, his turnovers are a little bit easier to swallow. I'm a big fan of Colin's, but I'm also realistic enough to know that he can only dream of putting up numbers like that.

You guys want to know the difference between Luck and Kap. Luck won't miss a wide open WR because of his footwork and staring at the receiver for a second and THEN throwing. That is the big difference.

Yes, Luck is making bad decisions but they are based on trying to make a plays rather than missing plays that are there to be had. If Luck had the receivers open as did Kap in last game, he would connect with them more times than not.

This is the FIRST offseason where Kap focused on training to be a QB rather than an athlete. And honestly, his primary focus this offseason was on how to review film. This kid has a lot of work but his priorities prior to this have been out of sequence.

I'm actually excited that he is trying to be a pocket QB in the games by going through his progressions. I just wish he would also practice good body base fundys. The only way this kid is going to learn to be a pocket QB is to fail at it so he knows what to do next time. From our experience with Kap, he does do a decent job at trying to fix his mistakes.

This is year one of a 3 year project for Kap to polish his QB technique. Not what we all want to hear but if he can do it, then the sky isn't even the ceiling for this kid. He can rocket into space because of his other abilities.

At the end of the day it's about wins not stats and Kaep wins when it counts are MUCH BETTER than Lucks.

You guys keep dreaming and Kap will continue to disappoint.

Originally posted by WINiner:
You guys keep dreaming and Kap will continue to disappoint.

No dreaming. I would want us to draft a QB next year, develop him old school style for a couple of years and if Kap turns it around, then we have a good problem.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
He has no trust in his throws. The receivers have to be completely wide open for him to pull the trigger. Doesn't help that alligator arms Vernon will not fight for a pass or that Boldin is getting slower every year. He needs to trust his reads and let it fly. Get the ball out quicker. I still see the long wind up.

That was very disappointing to me to see that. He definitely had that shorter delivery in the first game, but it seemed like when things started to fall apart the last game, he went back to that original delivery.

Hopefully, Green Bay is what he needs to get his act together.

His delivery comes with his footwork. In the first game, his feet were set better and wider. This allows him to deliver quicker because the distance he takes to step into the throw is shorter. This past game, he was nearly straight up on some plays which results in a longer step into the throw which leads to a longer wind up...like a pitcher starting his throw with feet together.

Unfortunately, when things go bad, Kap loses poise and completely loses his fundys.

I'm telling you that Arizona was in his head and it started prior to the game even being played. They talked all week how Kap will not throw on 3rd down and how he can't make throws outside the numbers. So naturally Kap tries to prove them wrong behind a shaky offensive line (that's being nice). As you guys mention his mechanics and footwork completely get awful under constant pressure thus he has the game he had. Arizona was in his head sort of like Seattle would be. He threw picks 3 and 4 as a result of pressing after his first 2 INTs. He was completely out of his game by the 3rd quarter. No chance of chucking at around. How does he get so rattled. He looked scared to throw. That is what has prompted all the pundits in the media talking about the "deer in the headlights" term.

ITS A PASS DEFENSIVE LEAGUE NOW.


Coaches have responded to this Goodell F L regiment of illegal hits so naturally all you have is to play the pass.

Mining has a bad game -"looks old and retired."

Luck-" Upper office stress"


Carr-"injured hand"

little Hiyawatha Russell Wilson has a bad game-" Super bowl loss hangover."

Kap-"overrated."


Bottom line, you need a run game. Every decent team in the league has good corners that can cover. As for tackling....not so much.


My answer? Lets go back to the read option for a second. Keep them guessing. What better time than against Green Bay?.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WINiner:
You guys keep dreaming and Kap will continue to disappoint.

No dreaming. I would want us to draft a QB next year, develop him old school style for a couple of years and if Kap turns it around, then we have a good problem.

I think a better word for it would be 'hoping.' People hope the light will turn on and he'll become what some of us thought he could be. I'm still there, but I admit it's getting a little harder to maintain that hope.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WINiner:
You guys keep dreaming and Kap will continue to disappoint.

No dreaming. I would want us to draft a QB next year, develop him old school style for a couple of years and if Kap turns it around, then we have a good problem.

I think a better word for it would be 'hoping.' People hope the light will turn on and he'll become what some of us thought he could be. I'm still there, but I admit it's getting a little harder to maintain that hope.

I fell it's about the mindset of the QBs. I think Russ and Kaep had great success in the first few years and got compensated for that. Now either they feel they have to, or are being made to, turn into pocket QBs. Both had bad starts but nearly brought their teams back in their second games. Only after they started running and freezing defenders. Not sure why neither team hasn't called for designed run plays for the QBs, and more read options on first downs to keep the defense honest.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WINiner:
You guys keep dreaming and Kap will continue to disappoint.

No dreaming. I would want us to draft a QB next year, develop him old school style for a couple of years and if Kap turns it around, then we have a good problem.

I think a better word for it would be 'hoping.' People hope the light will turn on and he'll become what some of us thought he could be. I'm still there, but I admit it's getting a little harder to maintain that hope.

Technically, he's only had one bad game this season.

The offensive line is so terrible at pass blocking it's made Kap look even worse than he is. We need to have the ball out much quicker. Dump it off for short yarders and implement more read option to keep the defense a little more honest.

Regardless of how Kaepernick is playing, it has been somewhat disappointing over the last couple of years that we haven't had a prospect in the hutch developing. We didn't do it when we has the apparent qb whisperer and we haven't don't it now. It's no knock on Kaepernick to be developing a youngster.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
ITS A PASS DEFENSIVE LEAGUE NOW.


Coaches have responded to this Goodell F L regiment of illegal hits so naturally all you have is to play the pass.

Mining has a bad game -"looks old and retired."

Luck-" Upper office stress"


Carr-"injured hand"

little Hiyawatha Russell Wilson has a bad game-" Super bowl loss hangover."

Kap-"overrated."


Bottom line, you need a run game. Every decent team in the league has good corners that can cover. As for tackling....not so much.


My answer? Lets go back to the read option for a second. Keep them guessing. What better time than against Green Bay?.

They have gone back to the read option out of the pistol. It hasnt done all that much.

Originally posted by English:

Regardless of how Kaepernick is playing, it has been somewhat disappointing over the last couple of years that we haven't had a prospect in the hutch developing. We didn't do it when we has the apparent qb whisperer and we haven't don't it now. It's no knock on Kaepernick to be developing a youngster.

It's better they didn't have anyone. Let the new guy whoever it is teach a kid how to run a competent NFL pass offense.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

At the end of the day it's about wins not stats and Kaep wins when it counts are MUCH BETTER than Lucks.

Since Kap has been in the league, he has more playoff wins than Luck, Rodgers, Ben, and pretty much anyone else not named Brady, Flacco, Wilson or Peyton.

Luck puts up great stats partly because, well he is a good QB but also because he has never had a run game or defense so he chucks it 40 times a game. He is a turnover machine and I've seen him play just as bad as Kap on multiple occasions. He does not deserve a pass at all. Turnovers are turnovers and playoff wins are playoff wins.

Kap needs to regain confidence and start attacking these teams. Starts this Sunday vs Green Bay and last I checked, Dom Capers is still the DC over there and he has been clueless on how to stop Kap

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
At the end of the day it's about wins not stats and Kaep wins when it counts are MUCH BETTER than Lucks.

Since Kap has been in the league, he has more playoff wins than Luck, Rodgers, Ben, and pretty much anyone else not named Brady, Flacco, Wilson or Peyton.

Luck puts up great stats partly because, well he is a good QB but also because he has never had a run game or defense so he chucks it 40 times a game. He is a turnover machine and I've seen him play just as bad as Kap on multiple occasions. He does not deserve a pass at all. Turnovers are turnovers and playoff wins are playoff wins.

Kap needs to regain confidence and start attacking these teams. Starts this Sunday vs Green Bay and last I checked, Dom Capers is still the DC over there and he has been clueless on how to stop Kap

I agree Luck has some terrible games. But he is forced to carry his team game in and game out. Kap is rarely asked to do this. Luck is a much better qb, its not a question. None of his teams talent wise could even hold the jock strap of the harbaugh era teams though. You put luck on those teams ,where he only needs to throw 20-30 times a game and put up 21 points, and we are talking about a dynasty.