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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cciowa:
for people wanting to blame the front office for all of the woes of ck,,,,,, take a real serious look at what poster phoenix just posted,,, and no that was not the ck of three years ago,, that is what he is NOW. we had morons for coaches but they were totally blameless in my opinion on how much ck regressed mentally and physically in my opinion
we already know he doesn't check down

That's not what a checkdown is though. Edit: I'm slow yet again


Originally posted by jonnydel:
This is really just a version of "spider 2 y banana". It's a play that Gruden pointed out on Monday night football. A lot of teams in the NFL run this play - it's an old Bill Walsh play. In Spider 2 Y banana, the FB is your primary target - used to beat man coverage. You'll get a natural pick motion out of VD and Boldin's route.

[ Edited by Dicekiller on Mar 3, 2016 at 11:18 AM ]
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
He could have even ran up in the pocket, the defender had actually fallen down, or he could have just thrown the ball away. Kap literally made the worst decision possible, lol.

sad to say,,,, those are the types of decisions, the worst ones,, he seems to make the most as of late
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
We have seen this play on .gif in the all 22 game thread. He had time to make a quick decision and throw to Miller. But he held it too long, then got spooked by the DE. Abandon the play too quickly. Ran off and tried to create something by himself.

Exactly what Benoit referred to as "sandlot football." Playing outside the bounds of what the intent of the playcall was. Quick, easy yards, not an off-balance prayer thrown up into double coverage.
Originally posted by cciowa:
for people wanting to blame the front office for all of the woes of ck,,,,,, take a real serious look at what poster phoenix just posted,,, and no that was not the ck of three years ago,, that is what he is NOW. we had morons for coaches but they were totally blameless in my opinion on how much ck regressed mentally and physically in my opinion

It doesn't help the "But terrible coaches!" side when that Raiders game was a Harbaugh coached game.
Decision Making is the worst .
And then later in that game, they ran the same play basically to the other side and it ended up being a touchdown.






He's just so inconsistent. When he played within the system, he generally did fine, when he completely botched it and tried to ad-lib the play, the offense stalled.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
He didn't inexplicably run left, there's a defender closing in on him. Now he could've checked down but he doesn't do that very often which we know and his combine scouting report says as much. Seeing Boldin 1-1 is a good read, the problem is when he moves left the safety does as well. If we hold the block it's a potential huge gain with your best WR one on one.

He had all the time in the world to make that pass to Miller. No excuse for blowing that. If that is Rodgers, Russell Wilson, or most other QB's, that is a quick throw to Miller and a quick, easy pickup.



Two things: if Miller is the primary then he's covered by the safety which would result in no GAIN or possibly an interview based on where the coverage is. If he isn't then Kaep either take the sack or throw it OOB instead of trying to make the throw to Crabtree (I originally thought it was Boldin)
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
And then later in that game, they ran the same play basically to the other side and it ended up being a touchdown.






He's just so inconsistent. When he played within the system, he generally did fine, when he completely botched it and tried to ad-lib the play, the offense stalled.

Different play in that there's no safety covering the flat and Miller like there is in the previous play.
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Two things: if Miller is the primary then he's covered by the safety which would result in no GAIN or possibly an interview based on where the coverage is. If he isn't then Kaep either take the sack or throw it OOB instead of trying to make the throw to Crabtree (I originally thought it was Boldin)

The safety Woodson was clearly dropping back. That play isn't setup to be a huge gain, just a quick pass to pick up 5 yards and stay out of 2nd and long. Its supposed to be a quick pass, no hesitation. Instead Kaepernick freezes up and then takes off.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Two things: if Miller is the primary then he's covered by the safety which would result in no GAIN or possibly an interview based on where the coverage is. If he isn't then Kaep either take the sack or throw it OOB instead of trying to make the throw to Crabtree (I originally thought it was Boldin)

The safety Woodson was clearly dropping back. That play isn't setup to be a huge gain, just a quick pass to pick up 5 yards and stay out of 2nd and long. Its supposed to be a quick pass, no hesitation. Instead Kaepernick freezes up and then takes off.

Exactly
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Different play in that there's no safety covering the flat and Miller like there is in the previous play.

The only real differences are that Kaepernick does a better job of selling the playaction and Oakland is in man coverage this time around, giving a little more room for error. Both plays should have worked if the pass comes out quickly.


Successful Throw comes out fast.






Unsuccessful throw caused by hesitation.


[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 3, 2016 at 11:32 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Two things: if Miller is the primary then he's covered by the safety which would result in no GAIN or possibly an interview based on where the coverage is. If he isn't then Kaep either take the sack or throw it OOB instead of trying to make the throw to Crabtree (I originally thought it was Boldin)

The safety Woodson was clearly dropping back. That play isn't setup to be a huge gain, just a quick pass to pick up 5 yards and stay out of 2nd and long. Its supposed to be a quick pass, no hesitation. Instead Kaepernick freezes up and then takes off.

I converted it to video from the GIF, Woodson is sitting on that flat route before Kaep flushes left. What we don't know is if Miller is the primary or the outlet.
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
I converted it to video from the GIF, Woodson is sitting on that flat route before Kaep flushes left. What we don't know is if Miller is the primary or the outlet.

Miller could have easily gained 3-5 yards with Woodson covering him.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Different play in that there's no safety covering the flat and Miller like there is in the previous play.

The only real differences are that Kaepernick does a better job of selling the playaction and Oakland is in man coverage this time around, giving a little more room for error. Both plays should have worked if the pass comes out quickly.

The real difference is no safety and a LB assigned to the FB. That can't be discounted. Look at the again, the defensive formation is different.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Two things: if Miller is the primary then he's covered by the safety which would result in no GAIN or possibly an interview based on where the coverage is. If he isn't then Kaep either take the sack or throw it OOB instead of trying to make the throw to Crabtree (I originally thought it was Boldin)

The safety Woodson was clearly dropping back. That play isn't setup to be a huge gain, just a quick pass to pick up 5 yards and stay out of 2nd and long. Its supposed to be a quick pass, no hesitation. Instead Kaepernick freezes up and then takes off.

Yes. He's dropping back in coverage but you can clearly see his hips lined up with the LOS with his eyes focused on Kaep the entire play. Woodson makes a tackle at the LOS or if quick enough, he could defend the pass.
[ Edited by insanemike27 on Mar 3, 2016 at 11:34 AM ]
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