Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Kap failed 2013. I remember many posters here, I was still banned at the time reading people saying harbaugh had become the problem as well as our OC.. People blamed harbaugh and CO. In 2014 for kaps regression and our 8-8 season. We hire tomsula and everyone spins it like they never wanted harbaugh gone. It's a bull sh*t take. Now in 2015 kap was beyond awful, awful enough to get benched for the already awful gabbert. Everyone blamed tomsula and said we should kept harbaugh. Ok! Hypocritical but ill go with it.

But everyone and there mother has said chip Kelley is and was the best possible outcome for kapernick in terms to resurrecting his career. So if kaepernick sucks again this year, and these same posters will find new ways to blame everything on chip, I may just lose it lmao. I can't wait for this season, either to be proved right, or to be proved wrong. Either way, it's a win win for me. But if kap fails hard in chip Kelley's system, there should honestly be some bans of some posters in here. Then again, they are so involved into kap personally that I think if he fails and we get rid of him they will go with him so a ban won't even be needed

Originally posted by sacniner:
Do you think he was good last year?

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
If Kap was carried by the defense in 2012 then we would have already won #6. I'm pretty sure Kap didn't fumble or pick-6 the Ravens 34 pts.

This narrative needs to end. But it won't because the anti-Kap people need some way to rationalize what happened in 2012.

And that is the flat-out truth. I don't know why it's so hard for some fans to grasp. Nobody wins a Super Bowl when they allow the other team to score 34 points. Nobody in 50 years. And over 96% of the time, if you score 31, you win. The 2012 defense started to collapse when Justin Smith injured his shoulder and then it just got worse when Aldon Smith also was injured. There was little or no pass rush and teams started scoring lots of points all through the playoffs. That's what happened, people. There's no need to pretend it didn't happen.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Do you think he was good last year?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Do you think he was good last year?

1st half of the season? Absolutely. 2nd half he didn't play well.

Originally posted by Irish40Niner:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Do you think he was good last year?

He was up and down. My biggest issue with him last year was him letting that Arizona game mind fv(k him the way it did.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Do you think he was good last year?

1st half of the season? Absolutely. 2nd half he didn't play well.

Not clowning, but he didn't play the 2nd half of the season. You think eh played well the first 3 or 4 games this last year (2015) ?

Originally posted by BobS:
If you are going to credit Kaepernick for "almost" coming back to win SB47 you have to give blame for the offensive problems that led to a chunk of the deficit in the first place. Two 3 and outs, a fumble (LMJ), an interception, and Kaep took a sack on 3rd and goal and ran for no gain on a 3rd and 2 inside the 10 that led to 6 points instead of 14. Plenty of times huge score board deficits are more the result of bad offense than poor defense.

Originally posted by BobS:
If you are going to credit Kaepernick for "almost" coming back to win SB47 you have to give blame for the offensive problems that led to a chunk of the deficit in the first place. Two 3 and outs, a fumble (LMJ), an interception, and Kaep took a sack on 3rd and goal and ran for no gain on a 3rd and 2 inside the 10 that led to 6 points instead of 14. Plenty of times huge score board deficits are more the result of bad offense than poor defense.

Originally posted by sacniner:
Not clowning, but he didn't play the 2nd half of the season. You think eh played well the first 3 or 4 games this last year (2015) ?

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by BobS:

I really don't think a lot of Kap fans get it. I believe it was a couple pages back where someone posted "What are the haters going to do if the "Old Kap" comes back?" That statement in itself shows a lack of awareness of what happened. Kap never really regressed in his abilities or lack there of, his productivity regressed, as defenses adjusted to take away his strengths while he did not improve on his weaknesses. If you look at scouting reports on him coming out of college they look like they could have been written in 2015. "Old Kap" is just going to get you further decline as defenses took away things he did well, he appears to even be beaten down mentally, the only thing that will turn around the productivity decline is a "New Kap" that improves on his weaknesses. I don't understand the blind support this guy gets. I ask any Kap fan to do one thing next year if he plays for the 49ers, watch his head when he drops back to pass until he releases the ball, only focus on that, then watch Russell Wilson. That is the big thing I noticed way back in 2012, he doesn't look around like most other QBs, especially when under pressure. For those that have never worn a football helmet it obstructs peripheral vision quite a bit so you have to move your head around to see the whole field, not just your eyes.

What is a Kaep fan?
Someone who thinks he has the best chance to be the best qb on the current roster?
Someone who appreciates what Kaepernick has done for the 49ers?
Someone who would like to see Kaepernick succeed as a 49er?

You throw that term around in most of your posts and you complain a lot about thesed unnamed people. Why not just call people out specifically? You probably consider me to be a Kaepnerick fan but most of what you attribute to Kaepernick fans doesn't apply to me.
I say this because that kind of affects the credibilty of your posts and that is a shame.

A Kap fan is someone who exaggerates his strengths and accomplishments while down playing or making excuses for his weaknesses and failures. I think the best thing to equate them to is someone campaigning for a political candidate. When Kap was benched for Gabbert most of them became quiet, when Gabbert had good games they stayed quiet, when Gabbert had bad games they became re-energized and reappeared. They also seem to react with joy when any upper level QB has a bad game. They make posts that are contradictory and irrational, holding everyone else to a higher standard than Kaepernick and then staying silent when someone calls them on their BS. As an example many claim Kaepernick's 86 rating in 2014 was decent, yet QBs putting up 90's in play-off games this year are called chokers. Back when Wilson and Kap had identical numbers they were calling Kap elite and Wilson trash. They root for every QB not named Kaepernick to fail, even if it is Gabbert.

I am a member of another site for Redskin fans and a site where various sports are discussed, that and 20 years of being on the internet I have never encountered anything like the Kap fan, it is like a cult following to me. On the Redskin site I did not see people supporting RG3 on his down slide mentioning things like "Robert might have had 2 picks and a fumble lost today, but Peyton Manning had 3 picks and a fumble." It boggles the mind.

Am I a Kaep fan? I never once called Wilson trash so if you consider me a Kaep fan you are contradicting yourself. I don't root for Gabbert to fail. I am a fan of Alex Smith.
You spend so much time whining about JKaep fans it really takes away from anything interesting you may have to say about the 49ers. It makes you come off like a one trick pony.
I do recall you mentioning that you are a Redskins fan as well.

I am not singling anyone out, I don't have a good enough memory to remember who said what. Everything I posted about Kap fans in general has been spewed by many of them. And yes I adopted the Redskins as my second favorite team (first time having a second favorite team) since I moved to Central Virginia, and truthfully I wish the Redskin forum was as active as this one. I don't see anyone calling people losers, racists, telling them to get a life, etc,etc just because they have a difference of opinion. They don't call players p*ssies or vaginas there either. I wonder why that is?

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Kap failed 2013. I remember many posters here, I was still banned at the time reading people saying harbaugh had become the problem as well as our OC.. People blamed harbaugh and CO. In 2014 for kaps regression and our 8-8 season. We hire tomsula and everyone spins it like they never wanted harbaugh gone. It's a bull sh*t take. Now in 2015 kap was beyond awful, awful enough to get benched for the already awful gabbert. Everyone blamed tomsula and said we should kept harbaugh. Ok! Hypocritical but ill go with it.

But everyone and there mother has said chip Kelley is and was the best possible outcome for kapernick in terms to resurrecting his career. So if kaepernick sucks again this year, and these same posters will find new ways to blame everything on chip, I may just lose it lmao. I can't wait for this season, either to be proved right, or to be proved wrong. Either way, it's a win win for me. But if kap fails hard in chip Kelley's system, there should honestly be some bans of some posters in here. Then again, they are so involved into kap personally that I think if he fails and we get rid of him they will go with him so a ban won't even be needed

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Rooting for Kap now makes no sense. Kap couldn't even beat Seattle under Harb and being carried by a top Defense, forget about winning the division. Is a Philly rejected in Kelly, more rejects on the coaching staff, weak o-line, young defense, a GM that stop believing in Kap, coming off injuries, etc etc etc etc, going to help him or make him a better QB...

Kap is a lost cause, the 49ers is in rebuilt mode and Kap shouldn't even be in and is useless to that equation.

Kap is better off packing his bags and running off to the Texans, where he can be carried by another defense

Bottomline, Kap is not helping himself or his NFL career staying with the 49ers; and the 49ers aren't helping themselves by keeping Kap any longer as the 49ers is in full rebuilt mode; and Kap needs to go else where in order to have a chance to revive his career, it's not going to be with the 49ers

Originally posted by crake49:
posters responding to themselves!

Lol...that explains everything

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

If kaep fails you "win" and you want Kaep to fail so that poster you disagree with get banned? That is weird, dude.