Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i wonder if Bob knows who's really fighting to the death on certain subjects?

Right? There's a heck of a lot of hyperbole always flying around here, but throwing out phrases like 'fighting to the death' is pretty silly on a sports forum IMO.

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Irish40Niner:
So if Kaep is the scarecrow, which character is Gabbert the tin man or the cowardly lion?

All I know is that Vernon Davis is Dorothy.

You are calling a two time pro bowler tight end a girl yet you will fight to the death to defend a below average QB like Kap, please explain how that makes sense.

Rooting for Kap now makes no sense. Kap couldn't even beat Seattle under Harb and being carried by a top Defense, forget about winning the division. Is a Philly rejected in Kelly, more rejects on the coaching staff, weak o-line, young defense, a GM that stop believing in Kap, coming off injuries, etc etc etc etc, going to help him or make him a better QB...

Kap is a lost cause, the 49ers is in rebuilt mode and Kap shouldn't even be in and is useless to that equation.

Kap is better off packing his bags and running off to the Texans, where he can be carried by another defense

Originally posted by BobS:
It is just a saying. It means you will never give up defending him no matter what he does.

Alright, that's fair. You didn't get the joke and I didn't get the saying. Let's stand down. Go Niners.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

VD led the NFL in receiving TDs.

That's cool. I don't have any problems with Vernon Davis. I never brought him up...

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Rooting for Kap now makes no sense. Kap couldn't even beat Seattle under Harb and being carried by a top Defense, forget about winning the division. Is a Philly rejected in Kelly, more rejects on the coaching staff, weak o-line, young defense, a GM that stop believing in Kap, coming off injuries, etc etc etc etc, going to help him or make him a better QB...

Kap is a lost cause, the 49ers is in rebuilt mode and Kap shouldn't even be in and is useless to that equation.

Kap is better off packing his bags and running off to the Texans, where he can be carried by another defense

Bottomline, Kap is not helping himself or his NFL career staying with the 49ers; and the 49ers aren't helping themselves by keeping Kap any longer as the 49ers is in full rebuilt mode; and Kap needs to go else where in order to have a chance to revive his career, it's not going to be with the 49ers

posters responding to themselves!

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by BobS:
A Kap fan is someone who exaggerates his strengths and accomplishments while down playing or making excuses for his weaknesses and failures. I think the best thing to equate them to is someone campaigning for a political candidate. When Kap was benched for Gabbert most of them became quiet, when Gabbert had good games they stayed quiet, when Gabbert had bad games they became re-energized and reappeared. They also seem to react with joy when any upper level QB has a bad game. They make posts that are contradictory and irrational, holding everyone else to a higher standard than Kaepernick and then staying silent when someone calls them on their BS. As an example many claim Kaepernick's 86 rating in 2014 was decent, yet QBs putting up 90's in play-off games this year are called chokers. Back when Wilson and Kap had identical numbers they were calling Kap elite and Wilson trash. They root for every QB not named Kaepernick to fail, even if it is Gabbert.

I am a member of another site for Redskin fans and a site where various sports are discussed, that and 20 years of being on the internet I have never encountered anything like the Kap fan, it is like a cult following to me. On the Redskin site I did not see people supporting RG3 on his down slide mentioning things like "Robert might have had 2 picks and a fumble lost today, but Peyton Manning had 3 picks and a fumble." It boggles the mind.

This is the very definition of obsession. I'm not sure what planet this post is referring to, but on this planet I don't see anybody who roots for every QB not named Kaepernick to fail. What boggles my mind is how delusional this all is.

Ok, I will prove it. every time a Kap fan references a bad game by any QB that is ranked above him not named Gabbert I will quote the post. If I do that this thread will grow by leaps and bounds in size. Good example was this past weekend, rarely or not at all were Cam Newton's numbers against Arizona mentioned. Why? Kap fans don't like bringing up stellar performances of QBs not named Kaepernick. Yet Carson Palmer was called a play-off choker many times, Manning and Brady's troubles were brought up quite a bit also. If those 3 QBs had good games they would have been spoken about as little as Newton by Kap fans. Don't call me delusional just because you choosing to ignore the quirks of people in your camp.

Originally posted by crake49:
posters responding to themselves!

+1

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by crake49:
posters responding to themselves!

+1

who the fook does that "+1" s**t anymore fggt.

Originally posted by BobS:
Ok, I will prove it. every time a Kap fan references a bad game by any QB that is ranked above him not named Gabbert I will quote the post. If I do that this thread will grow by leaps and bounds in size. Good example was this past weekend, rarely or not at all were Cam Newton's numbers against Arizona mentioned. Why? Kap fans don't like bringing up stellar performances of QBs not named Kaepernick. Yet Carson Palmer was called a play-off choker many times, Manning and Brady's troubles were brought up quite a bit also. If those 3 QBs had good games they would have been spoken about as little as Newton by Kap fans. Don't call me delusional just because you choosing to ignore the quirks of people in your camp.

Whatever floats your boat. Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. I see people praising Cam Newton all over the place. Palmer had a bad game - people have said the same things about Dalton and Luck after playoff face plants. That's nothing new. I just don't see what you're seeing. For myself, I've often said around here that I thought Palmer was the best pure pocket passer in the division. I also think Wilson is real good.

And please. Enough of this sub-tribal 'in your camp' thing. The only camp I'm in here is the Niner fan camp.

Originally posted by crake49:
This is the very definition of obsession. I'm not sure what planet this post is referring to, but on this planet I don't see anybody who roots for every QB not named Kaepernick to fail. What boggles my mind is how delusional this all is.

And he posts the same crap over and over again. It's not even a discussion, it's just e-vomit. Him and a few other posters. The problem here is some people are so tied to previous QB's that they can't let it go. We could have had ANY QB as the backup, there are a group of people that would be ready to anoint the backup the from day one.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by crake49:
posters responding to themselves!

+1

who the fook does that "+1" s**t anymore fggt.

LOL - that's right! Give yourself what for!

Originally posted by mojave45:
No, that is using your logic, LOL, I never compared past play on other teams in my post. And what do Hasselbeck and Luck have to do with anything that I posted?

An extra win was irrelevant. Just like Hasselbeck having more wins than Luck. Do you think the Colts are going to even consider any of that? Wins again are team stats. There are games where individual players contribute to those wins more than others. In those Gabbert wins, did he win a single game where the D wasn't anything less than good?

I mean, there are people in this thread criticizing Kaep for not winning enough games where his D gave up more than 20 points? How did he do when his D gave up more than 20 points? So you tell me who was more responsible for those wins. Again, wins are irrelevant in this discussion.

Another question every 49ers fan needs (including the Kap die-hards) to ask themselves is this: Why did the 49ers FO even brought back and gave Kap 12+ million in 2015 after firing Harb and hiring an inept Tomsula and company to take over?

Because they thought Kap was a franchise QB and the problem was Harb and Roman (2014 8-8, fail to Seattle 2x again), and they were willing to take a chance on Kap as a franchise QB and they wanted to have their own coaching staff to prove they can still go 8-8 or better easily and maybe beat Seattle ONCE, maybe?

They guess wronged and failed miserably. Tomsula is no NFL head coach material obviously, but at the same time Kap is exposed for what he is exactly, especially without Harb, a gimmick project that is unimprovable and a QB that can't carry a team on his back or lead a team on his own like a franchise QB should.

So now it's 2016, ANY head coach coming in would be foolish to keep Kap around for another bid on the fool's gold/gimmick QB fails again part 3, it would be lunacy at its finest lol.

^^^ stopped reading at 'Kap die-hards'