Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
What Kaepernick has become has absolutely ZERO relevance to what he was. And what he was, was the absolute strength of the team. I am curious to know what JoeMoKnows thinks was the strength of the team because he clearly wont share his opinion.

But I would like to believe he is smart enough to NOT think the strength of the team was the defense.....a unit that was giving up damn near 30 points a game for our final month + playoffs.

Lol wut?

The D for 3 years was top 5 in almost every category. Yes, the defense was stronger than the bottom ranked offense. You think we get to the post season with a s**t D?

You can laugh all you want. Aldon Smith and Justin Smith were both injured and our defense was AWFUL for the last 6 games of the season.

People remember what they want to remember.

Why don't you post the schedule and scores for us...

SF 41 NE 34
SEA 42 SF 13
SF 27 AZ 13
SF 45 GB 31
SF 28 ATL 24
BAL 34 SF 31

We gave up 29.7 points per game the last 6 games of the season.....which not coincidentally was when Justin and Aldon were either out injured or ineffectively playing hurt. Just baffles me how at this point in the season any reasonable person could say the strength of a team was defense when they are giving up 30 points a game.

29.7 PPG would have ranked dead last in the NFL that year.

But the defense carried us that year.

No body cares about any past stats now.

If they keep Kap for 2016, can Kap do jack under Kelly?

If not, he's complete done with the 49ers and will be traded for trash after 2016.

They don't care. You think Chip, Baalke, York cares about any of those past stats??? LOL!!!!!

NFL is a performance based business. "What have you done for me lately"???

Learn Football. ROFL.

Even if they keep kap 2016, kap is done after 2016, kap will fail because he is a lesser QB than BG lol!

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

What Kaepernick has become has absolutely ZERO relevance to what he was. And what he was, was the absolute strength of the team. I am curious to know what JoeMoKnows thinks was the strength of the team because he clearly wont share his opinion.

But I would like to believe he is smart enough to NOT think the strength of the team was the defense.....a unit that was giving up damn near 30 points a game for our final month + playoffs.

Lol wut?

The D for 3 years was top 5 in almost every category. Yes, the defense was stronger than the bottom ranked offense. You think we get to the post season with a s**t D?

You can laugh all you want. Aldon Smith and Justin Smith were both injured and our defense was AWFUL for the last 6 games of the season.

People remember what they want to remember.

Why don't you post the schedule and scores for us...

SF 41 NE 34
SEA 42 SF 13
SF 27 AZ 13
SF 45 GB 31
SF 28 ATL 24
BAL 34 SF 31

We gave up 29.7 points per game the last 6 games of the season.....which not coincidentally was when Justin and Aldon were either out injured or ineffectively playing hurt. Just baffles me how at this point in the season any reasonable person could say the strength of a team was defense when they are giving up 30 points a game.

29.7 PPG would have ranked dead last in the NFL that year.

It's the same people in denial every time (and we know why). Jreff has to be reminded that the defense sucked at the end of the 2012 season/playoffs like every week lol

Originally posted by Heroism:

Lmao I never see Seahawks fans bring up wilsons stats from 3 seasons ago. Why? Because he's getting better, and his best season is his most recent one.


Kelly will realize kap is too potato to run his offense and send him packing. Kelly already distancing himself from kap by shooting down the trade rumors and constantly bringing up gabbert.

Constantly bringing up Gabbert?

Unfortunately, in this league you are what you are by your most recent performance, almost down to your last play. It's remarkable how any base of knowledge can be abandoned in favor of an entire new set of beliefs that is in complete contradiction.

Never is this phenomena more true than with Kap.

He IS an inaccurate, no touch having, locker room dividing, solemn post game giving, flat brim cap wearing, run first, one read, no progression running, lack of play book studying, overpaid backup QB.

He WAS an NFC Champion, arm talented, game changing, record setting, Captian Checkdown replacing, Cheesehead slaying, DC nightmare giving, jersey selling, draft day steal.

He is polarizing. The way people go at each other in here you'd think it was a Niner/Raider discussion. ITS ALL GOOD FOLKS. It' shouldn't be such a feud. No one is right, he is both of the above. Question is, what will he be?

Some weirdos in this thread. Seriously get a life. Who cares if Kap stays and gets a chance to compete. Guys get better all the time in the NFL. Most NFL fans are lke the worst prisoners of the moment. Go to a forum when a team is losing and they suck, go back when they're winning and they will be a dynasty.

Things change in the NFL all the time, so much player success can be attributed to the system they are in. We have had a backwards power run MOSTLY/Only system for years here.

I think Gabbert can improve, Kap can improve. A drafted kid can improve. Palmer is now playing Elite. Things happen. Everybody so quick to write the book on a guy after a mediocre year by our offenses standards and a HORRIBLE HALF YEAR this year. Both guys have potential but both QB's have some serious drawbacks after a handful of years in this league. We need to always be developing our QB of the future IMO. Sometimes though, the guy who was left for dead grows up and develops too, im talking either guy on roster can.

Prisoner of the moment NFL fandom gets annoying as hell. As if things will always be what they are in that exact moment

Originally posted by jcashen87:
Some weirdos in this thread. Seriously get a life. Who cares if Kap stays and gets a chance to compete. Guys get better all the time in the NFL. Most NFL fans are lke the worst prisoners of the moment. Go to a forum when a team is losing and they suck, go back when they're winning and they will be a dynasty.

Things change in the NFL all the time, so much player success can be attributed to the system they are in. We have had a backwards power run MOSTLY/Only system for years here.

I think Gabbert can improve, Kap can improve. A drafted kid can improve. Palmer is now playing Elite. Things happen. Everybody so quick to write the book on a guy after a mediocre year by our offenses standards and a HORRIBLE HALF YEAR this year. Both guys have potential but both QB's have some serious drawbacks after a handful of years in this league. We need to always be developing our QB of the future IMO. Sometimes though, the guy who was left for dead grows up and develops too, im talking either guy on roster can.

Prisoner of the moment NFL fandom gets annoying as hell. As if things will always be what they are in that exact moment

Well said.

Originally posted by jbeale49:
Unfortunately, in this league you are what you are by your most recent performance, almost down to your last play. It's remarkable how any base of knowledge can be abandoned in favor of an entire new set of beliefs that is in complete contradiction.

Never is this phenomena more true than with Kap.

He IS an inaccurate, no touch having, locker room dividing, solemn post game giving, flat brim cap wearing, run first, one read, no progression running, lack of play book studying, overpaid backup QB.

He WAS an NFC Champion, arm talented, game changing, record setting, Captian Checkdown replacing, Cheesehead slaying, DC nightmare giving, jersey selling, draft day steal.

He is polarizing. The way people go at each other in here you'd think it was a Niner/Raider discussion. ITS ALL GOOD FOLKS. It' shouldn't be such a feud. No one is right, he is both of the above. Question is, what will he be?

Also well said.

Originally posted by jbeale49:
Unfortunately, in this league you are what you are by your most recent performance, almost down to your last play. It's remarkable how any base of knowledge can be abandoned in favor of an entire new set of beliefs that is in complete contradiction.

Never is this phenomena more true than with Kap.

He IS an inaccurate, no touch having, locker room dividing, solemn post game giving, flat brim cap wearing, run first, one read, no progression running, lack of play book studying, overpaid backup QB.

He WAS an NFC Champion, arm talented, game changing, record setting, Captian Checkdown replacing, Cheesehead slaying, DC nightmare giving, jersey selling, draft day steal.

He is polarizing. The way people go at each other in here you'd think it was a Niner/Raider discussion. ITS ALL GOOD FOLKS. It' shouldn't be such a feud. No one is right, he is both of the above. Question is, what will he be?

Wow, was typing a post with similar thoughts and posted after this. Good timing. Good post

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Considering your saying guys don't know football Did you actually watch our Superbowl run? Did you see the defense against Atlanta and Baltimore? Just curious...

That's what keeps me coming back to Kap. I place huge value on playoff performance, and he's a guy that was an electrifying playoff performer in 2012 and 2013. He's regressed big-time since then and may not bounce back, but if he sticks around he has a great opportunity here with Chip Kelly.

Kelly has done good work with QBs. Made Foles, Bradford, and Sanchez look like good NFL starters, which nobody would have said before. I believe Kap is a better talent and fit for his system. Even Gabbert has a chance to really shine in this system. I'm excited for both guys..we'll see what happens.

I completely agree Sofa.I also value playoff wins performance. I think it of most measurements tell you what a guy is made of because teams are SPECIFICALLY planning for YOU. you can't fluke your way to multiple wins and successes. Kaep is a playmaker and as evidenced in these playoffs the playmakers are winning and the stat guys aren't.

Originally posted by jcashen87:

Wow, was typing a post with similar thoughts and posted after this. Good timing. Good post

Back to back, whoa.

Originally posted by jbeale49:

Originally posted by jcashen87:
Wow, was typing a post with similar thoughts and posted after this. Good timing. Good post

Back to back, whoa.

Nah, not whoa. Quality posting. That is needed around here. So, when it comes out, shiiiiiiiieeeeet we should all be pushing for more of it.

Originally posted by jcashen87:

Wow, was typing a post with similar thoughts and posted after this. Good timing. Good post

Prisoner of the moment, snapshot moments in time passed on like its fact. Annoying as hell....

Get into the blimp and out of the microscope

I'll make it simple for those having a hard time with "FOOTBALL" the business.

If York, Baalke, Chip decide to keep Kap for 2016 for 11+ million, Kap better win games (this is his last chance/season to perform as a franchise starting QB for the 49ers).

If Kap fails, he's done with the 49ers. This is Baalke's last chance as GM as well and Chip 1st year to prove his 6 million per year worth, why he will bench Kap fast if Kap starts and fails.

If Kap fails, Baalke's job is on the line, Chip's job is on the line next. Kap is the weakest link in the equation as he is on a year to year contract, playing like a backup the last 2 seasons and got 2 head coaches fired back to back. Kap's job is on the line BEFORE ANY ONE ELSE if the team fails to win.

Therefore if Kap is kept in 2016 and Kap fails, then Kap is done with 49ers. That's the bottom line. All you Kap die hard homers, realize that. No one cares about Kap's past stats, according to his homers and as they like to think, he supposedly was the strength, the leader, the QB who carried the team to the Super Bowl, took the league by storm etc etc etc etc etc all of it even if it is all true means absolutely nothing now in 2016. Kap either performs in 2016 with the 49ers or he is gone, BET ON IT

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

What Kaepernick has become has absolutely ZERO relevance to what he was. And what he was, was the absolute strength of the team. I am curious to know what JoeMoKnows thinks was the strength of the team because he clearly wont share his opinion.

But I would like to believe he is smart enough to NOT think the strength of the team was the defense.....a unit that was giving up damn near 30 points a game for our final month + playoffs.

Lol wut?

The D for 3 years was top 5 in almost every category. Yes, the defense was stronger than the bottom ranked offense. You think we get to the post season with a s**t D?

You can laugh all you want. Aldon Smith and Justin Smith were both injured and our defense was AWFUL for the last 6 games of the season.

People remember what they want to remember.

Why don't you post the schedule and scores for us...

SF 41 NE 34
SEA 42 SF 13
SF 27 AZ 13
SF 45 GB 31
SF 28 ATL 24
BAL 34 SF 31

We gave up 29.7 points per game the last 6 games of the season.....which not coincidentally was when Justin and Aldon were either out injured or ineffectively playing hurt. Just baffles me how at this point in the season any reasonable person could say the strength of a team was defense when they are giving up 30 points a game.

NE we had a 4th quarter meltdown. Through the first 3 quarts we held them to 10 points. And we had a couple of 3 and outs that didn't help. Plus it's Brady.

Seattle we couldn't score or sustain drives. That falls on the offense just as much.

Arizona was a dominant performance.

Green Bay...first drive ended in a pick 6.

Atlanta we didn't get a first down until the second quarter. And the RB's did the bulk of the work for us in that game. Gore had more runs than Kap did completions.

And regarding the Suoerbowl I've already discussed numerous times the fumble and ST TD...had they not happened we win.


So if you would like to recalculate numbers you might get a different picture.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

It's the same people in denial every time (and we know why). Jreff has to be reminded that the defense sucked at the end of the 2012 season/playoffs like every week lol

I don't think we've ever had a conversation. But keep making s**t up.