Colin Kaepernick Thread

Just ignore him jediadiah.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:

Mindi Bach ‏@MBachCSN 1m1 minute ago
Per source: #49ers Colin Kaepernick will undergo surgery to repair a torn ligament in his right hand tomorrow morning.

I guess they waited until the left shoulder got a little better before taking the right hand out of commission. Any word on recovery time? I wonder if he will be able to pass a physical fora trade or release?

I remember reading that it's 3 months recovery.

This.

3 months. I've been drinking whats the math? Is he cut worthy or are we fu*ked.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:

Mindi Bach ‏@MBachCSN 1m1 minute ago
Per source: #49ers Colin Kaepernick will undergo surgery to repair a torn ligament in his right hand tomorrow morning.

I guess they waited until the left shoulder got a little better before taking the right hand out of commission. Any word on recovery time? I wonder if he will be able to pass a physical fora trade or release?

I remember reading that it's 3 months recovery.

This.

3 months. I've been drinking whats the math? Is he cut worthy or are we fu*ked.

Lol. They most likely would try to trade him if they decide to move on without him.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

I don't think you get it. And I think there are not many 9er fans or Gabbert fans or NFL fans that would agree Gabbert would've got all those wins I just listed.

Tell me, why do you think Kaepernick was kept on field after Alex was healthy?...after we lost to the Rams that same season?.... after we got blown out by the Seahawks a few weeks later?...why do you think they stuck with Kaepernick..and rode him to the SuperBowl?

Why stick with him if any regular QB could've won those games I listed earlier (Scott Tolzien?)...let alone the fact that we had Alex healthy, ready to come in.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

I don't think you get it. And I think there are not many 9er fans or Gabbert fans or NFL fans that would agree Gabbert would've got all those wins I just listed.

Tell me, why do you think Kaepernick was kept on field after Alex was healthy?...after we lost to the Rams that same season?.... after we got blown out by the Seahawks a few weeks later?...why do you think they stuck with Kaepernick..and rode him to the SuperBowl?

Why stick with him if any regular QB could've won those games I listed earlier (Scott Tolzien?)...let alone the fact that we had Alex healthy, ready to come in.

You have zero ground to stand on if you think Alex couldn't have taken the team to the Super Bowl.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

I don't think you get it. And I think there are not many 9er fans or Gabbert fans or NFL fans that would agree Gabbert would've got all those wins I just listed.

Tell me, why do you think Kaepernick was kept on field after Alex was healthy?...after we lost to the Rams that same season?.... after we got blown out by the Seahawks a few weeks later?...why do you think they stuck with Kaepernick..and rode him to the SuperBowl?

Why stick with him if any regular QB could've won those games I listed earlier (Scott Tolzien?)...let alone the fact that we had Alex healthy, ready to come in.

You have zero ground to stand on if you think Alex couldn't have taken the team to the Super Bowl.

The ground he stands on was back in 2012-2013. It's now a sink hole. Swallowing a house full of Kaep frat fans. Yellow caution tape surround the perimeter...but they ain't leav'n.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

You have zero ground to stand on if you think Alex couldn't have taken the team to the Super Bowl.

Lol give me examples of Alex making the SB while putting up 30 a game. Give me Alex's record against playoff teams. Tell me how he's done without a great defense. You're the one with no ground stand on. I know it kills you, but our defense fell apart while Kap was starting and he carried us.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

Hysterical.

You're making the assumption that he can then attacking Afrikan claiming he's making assumptions Gabbert can't.

Let me fill you in on something, Kap actually DID that - and it wasn't because his his "All-pro" team was carrying him. The Niners had 6 guys named to the All-pro team that year and 3 to the second team. Only Iupati made the first team and Staley made the 2nd team. Everyone else was on defense or was Andy Lee.... and that's the defense that wore down after the Pats game and let in an average 28.5 points over the last 6 games (I excluded the kick-off return from the SB).

But never mind, keep making assumptions that Gabbert is going to play better or equal to Kap in those circumstances while ignoring the fact Kap ACTUALLY did that. It exists, it's measured - it's not a delusional flight of fantasy like your Gabbert aspirations.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:
You have zero ground to stand on if you think Alex couldn't have taken the team to the Super Bowl.

Lol give me examples of Alex making the SB while putting up 30 a game. Give me Alex's record against playoff teams. Tell me how he's done without a great defense. You're the one with no ground stand on. I know it kills you, but our defense fell apart while Kap was starting and he carried us.

Right. Whatever you say. Because Alex didn't get to the NFCCG the year before... AND he wasn't on track to make the playoffs AGAIN? I know it kills YOU, but if you actually go back and watch those games, the defense was definitely not as bad as your memories make them out to be.

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Right. Whatever you say. Because Alex didn't get to the NFCCG the year before... AND he wasn't on track to make the playoffs AGAIN? I know it kills YOU, but if you actually go back and watch those games, the defense was definitely not as bad as your memories make them out to be.

Lol so whats Alex record vs playoff teams? Wheres your examples that show Alex could've carried our defense after the injuries the way Colin did? There are none throughout his decade long career, and it does kill you.

Originally posted by Buchy:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Just ignore him jediadiah.

Like he ignores the All Pro team we had from 2011 to 2013?

Would Gabbert at his best been able to come back in that Atlanta Championship game? when we couldn't run the ball?

Would Gabbert at his best, have did the samething in the SuperBowl?

Would Gabbert have went into Green Bay in -20 weather against Aaron Rodgers and kept up with him and beat the Packers at Lambo?

would he have beat the Panthers? The one that was ranked #1 I believe in defense?

So even with the "All Pro" team...when that all pro team struggled...be it running game...or defense getting torched early in the game. Would Gabbert and his offensive approach/mentality won those games?

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Because he was on a historically bad Jaguars team? You make these assumptions that he can or can't do something based off having a horrible team around him, yet with a horrible team around both QBs, Gabbert did better... which, logically, if you can take one second to break away from you Kap fapping, means he could play better than Kap with a better team around him...

You keep saying the same stuff over and over again, but you just don't get it.

Hysterical.

You're making the assumption that he can then attacking Afrikan claiming he's making assumptions Gabbert can't.

Let me fill you in on something, Kap actually DID that - and it wasn't because his his "All-pro" team was carrying him. The Niners had 6 guys named to the All-pro team that year and 3 to the second team. Only Iupati made the first team and Staley made the 2nd team. Everyone else was on defense or was Andy Lee.... and that's the defense that wore down after the Pats game and let in an average 28.5 points over the last 6 games (I excluded the kick-off return from the SB).

But never mind, keep making assumptions that Gabbert is going to play better or equal to Kap in those circumstances while ignoring the fact Kap ACTUALLY did that. It exists, it's measured - it's not a delusional flight of fantasy like your Gabbert aspirations.

I'm not claiming anything. He literally says it. On the grounds that Gabbert played poorly on a bad Jags team, which is completely different than the 2011-2013 49ers. My "assumption" is based on logical reasoning. If Kap went to the Super Bowl with a great team, AND Kap played horribly on a bad team, while Gabbert played better on that horrible team, then it stands to reason Gabbert could go to the Super Bowl with a great team...

Let me explain it to you in another way. If you have two chefs, and one makes a great soup with great ingredients, and a horrible soup with horrible ingredients, but another chef makes a better soup with horrible ingredients, it stands to reason that with great ingredients, the second chef will make a better soup than the first chef. Why? Because producing a better soup with horrible ingredients is indicative of a greater mastery of his craft.

And sorry, bud. You've got your Pro Bowls confused. Both Staley and Iupati were named starters. And don't forget about Vernon Davis, who went in 2009 and again in 2014. Oh yea, and Randy Moss. But I guess we're going to argue that good defensive players don't help an offense, now, right? Because a defense couldn't possibly help a young QB out, right? Forcing a three and out and keeping them from scoring couldn't possibly help out a young QB, right? Or when your young QB goes 3 and out, a punter doesn't help the offense by helping the defense keep the opponent pinned deep, right?

God forbid you encompass an entire TEAM when you say the term All Pro TEAM, right?

Absolutely ludicrous I even have to argue the merits of a good defense and special teams unit, considering that was our ENTIRE philosophy for those years.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Right. Whatever you say. Because Alex didn't get to the NFCCG the year before... AND he wasn't on track to make the playoffs AGAIN? I know it kills YOU, but if you actually go back and watch those games, the defense was definitely not as bad as your memories make them out to be.

Lol so whats Alex record vs playoff teams? Wheres your examples that show Alex could've carried our defense after the injuries the way Colin did? There are none throughout his decade long career, and it does kill you.

Where's your evidence he couldn't? You're the one making the claims he couldn't do it, even though he went to the NFCCG the year before, and had the team basically locked in for the playoffs...