Keep Harbaugh!

Not sure how people who care about this team can so easily dismiss the success we have had under Harbaugh. I remember a few things about this team: going 20 straight seasons killing the rest of the NFL, following that with years of some of the worst football I have ever seen from any team ever, and finally these last few years with Coach Harbaugh. Does it piss me off that our offense has sucked? Hell yeah, it does--I want Roman GONE and I am pissed at Harbaugh for allowing that to happen. That said, I would rather move forward next year with what may be the best team of all of the last 5 years heading into a Superbowl in Santa Clara being coached by Harbaugh. I have no reason to believe anyone else can duplicate is success--especially someone untested. I think if he stays the offense will have to be addressed, and no--we arent dumping Kap for some suckass rookie with the same skill set or a retread vet--we will have him for at least another year. He may improve.....or not, but regardless we have been within one play of winning a super bowl with him and that says something. All he needs to do is practice the corner fade route for the next 6 months and we will get #6.....

Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Goodbye Harbaugh, hello Pep!!!!!

I can see this happening if Harbaugh is gone.

My #1 choice is Gase. Hire Gase and lets see what we got in Kap.

Originally posted by ajsjohnson:
Not sure how people who care about this team can so easily dismiss the success we have had under Harbaugh. I remember a few things about this team: going 20 straight seasons killing the rest of the NFL, following that with years of some of the worst football I have ever seen from any team ever, and finally these last few years with Coach Harbaugh. Does it piss me off that our offense has sucked? Hell yeah, it does--I want Roman GONE and I am pissed at Harbaugh for allowing that to happen. That said, I would rather move forward next year with what may be the best team of all of the last 5 years heading into a Superbowl in Santa Clara being coached by Harbaugh. I have no reason to believe anyone else can duplicate is success--especially someone untested. I think if he stays the offense will have to be addressed, and no--we arent dumping Kap for some suckass rookie with the same skill set or a retread vet--we will have him for at least another year. He may improve.....or not, but regardless we have been within one play of winning a super bowl with him and that says something. All he needs to do is practice the corner fade route for the next 6 months and we will get #6.....

Harbaugh doesn't want to stay. This divorce is being fueled from both sides.

Originally posted by WINiner:
My #1 choice is Gase. Hire Gase and lets see what we got in Kap.

I doubt thats gonna end well. despite peyton's praise, peyton is the one doing 98% of playcalling in denver
so basically from 2012 to now he hasnt been doing much and is a first year coordinator puppet

before that he was qb coach for tebow and orton and our offensive assistant in 2008

you basically go from him having no responsibility to responsibility to re-start one of the most loaded rosters in the league that has underachieved.

that isnt a job for someone so inexperienced, imo

Originally posted by Hopper:
Most of the injuries and suspensions were on defense. The defense still held up their end in most of our games.

The offense has no excuse to be this bad.

Sure they do, in the most obvious area. Offensive line! Injuries, holdout, regression ... no continuity all year. And Kaep has been shell shocked, and we could not even run the ball even close to consistently.

I still think he's an awesome coach but our offensive woes are either caused by him or allowed to continue by him.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I doubt thats gonna end well. despite peyton's praise, peyton is the one doing 98% of playcalling in denver
so basically from 2012 to now he hasnt been doing much and is a first year coordinator puppet

before that he was qb coach for tebow and orton and our offensive assistant in 2008

you basically go from him having no responsibility to responsibility to re-start one of the most loaded rosters in the league that has underachieved.

that isnt a job for someone so inexperienced, imo

This is Gase's second year as the OC. The 98% comment is a little silly. That's like saying "s**t, Steve Young called the offense, not Shanahan." People get a little carried away with the whole "Manning calls his own offense" rhetoric. Manning and other players on the Broncos have refuted this notion that people like to keep repeating. Usually every successful OC has a QB that is performing at a high level, not sure why things are different in regards to Gase.


The guy has gotten to work under Mariucci, under Martz, under McDaniels, has gotten to work with one of the brightest QB's in the NFL, he's certainly picked up more than a few things in that time. Manning seems to trust him implicitly and its been made clear that they are running Gase's offense in Denver.


If you listen to him talk and his overall philosophy on offense, he's extremely bright, he's been complimented in particular for his ability to analyze things in real-time, make on the fly adjustments...etc, exactly what this offense needs.

even if for some reason he does stay it will always be a year to year thing of will he stay or will he go.

JH won't change the offense. The offense has struggled to be an NFL caliber offense since he arrived.

Roman, OL Coach Solari, WR Coach Morton, TE Coach Mangini all need to go. We've had the same darn OL problems since Solari arrived - can that guy.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is Gase's second year as the OC. The 98% comment is a little silly. That's like saying "s**t, Steve Young called the offense, not Shanahan." People get a little carried away with the whole "Manning calls his own offense" rhetoric. Manning and other players on the Broncos have refuted this notion that people like to keep repeating. Usually every successful OC has a QB that is performing at a high level, not sure why things are different in regards to Gase.


The guy has gotten to work under Mariucci, under Martz, under McDaniels, has gotten to work with one of the brightest QB's in the NFL, he's certainly picked up more than a few things in that time. Manning seems to trust him implicitly and its been made clear that they are running Gase's offense in Denver.


If you listen to him talk and his overall philosophy on offense, he's extremely bright, he's been complimented in particular for his ability to analyze things in real-time, make on the fly adjustments...etc, exactly what this offense needs.

Peyton is different from any other qb in the history because of his mind. he's the best defense reader ever and his propensity to read (and sometimes overthink) things is both a gift as hes one of the best qbs ever and a curse (in a sense that when things needs to be dialed down sometimes he trusts too much in himself, usually in playoffs with game on the line)

Im aware of him and his coaches denying that he doesnt call plays. However, Peyton has more control of offense than any qb in the league. He can audible out any time and override any call without repercussion due to his pedigree.
Peyton cannot co-exist with an alpha male offensive minded HC or OC imo.

if Gase is indeed the one who runs the offense for Broncos and he ran it last season, I wouldnt want him for one reason: the superbowl game. I put it on Peyton but if you keep assuring it was Gases offense, it is what it is.

instead of toughing it out and playing conservative against seattle like ANY team should, the broncos went out there and thought they could do what they do all the time against that defense. and they threw away the game by the halftime.

Pay the man. We keep a good coach he's happy. Nothing Says fu** the media like a nice contract. Or hire snoop dogg he's still available.

I want Harbs here. We are fortunate to be where we are at these days and Harbs is the reason we are out of the dark years.

After the Erickson, Nolan and. Singletary years I think having a winning coach is a blessing. If we could get Gruden I might like that. I am on the record as saying i wouldnt want Holmgren, but if we could keep Fangio I would like to see what he could do with the offense. He could surely help Kap out. I just don't think that getting rid of Harbs is a good idea. I'm just scared of making a big mistake.

Originally posted by WINiner:
My #1 choice is Gase. Hire Gase and lets see what we got in Kap.

if harbs goes, gase is the guy. he's got the mental talent to innovate and dominate like walsh did.

that being said, what harbs has done on the field does NOT warrant being fired. jed is better suited to selling insurance to goody-goody residents of atherton than leading something grand like the 49ers.

I want harbs to stay but romans gots to go.

Originally posted by KegBert:
I want harbs to stay but romans gots to go.

funny, how few people disagree with this, but we never hear any whispers from the inside about the demise of the pudgy pea brain.