Oakland Raiders coaches Film analysis

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Definitely no reason he shouldn't have made the quick pass to Vernon right out of his cut, but the only thing I can imagine to explain why he didn't was #90 running free at him from that direction. The QB needs to make that pass and take that hit, as we all know. But I get why that might bother somebody just a little. lol

Yeah he did see #90 coming. The thing is, he double clutches and ends up throwing the ball while taking a hit anyways. Might as well throw the ball instead of double clutching. We've seen him take a hit to make a throw. We've seen him make good anticipation throws versus man coverage. He's pressing hard and it shows.

It looked like he might of been targeting Crabtree on his go route. We know he likes looking to the 1v1 coverage

I think we generally do a good job on play calling during the 1st quarter, but progressively get worse as the game goes on. This tells me our first 10-15 plays are probably scripted and they tend to work well. After we run through our scripted plays roman has a tough time calling plays on the fly. This was just something I have noticed watching the games so I went ahead a looked up our scoring by quarter.

1st quarter- Ranked #6
2nd quarter- Ranked #15
3rd quarter- Ranked #27
4th quarter- Ranked #32

It's been well documented about our struggles scoring in the 2nd half and the ineptitude of Roman/harbaugh being able to make adjustments. We average 5.5 points TOTAL in the 2nd half. That just isn't good enough even with our defense

Originally posted by thl408:
3Q 2nd & Goal

49ers: Slant-flat to Kap's right.
OAK: cover 2 zone

Incomplete.

This play actually got 3 players open and guess which player was the toughest throw? Yup, Boldin. For Kap to make that throw, it would have to have been amazingly perfect. But, he missed two wide open players in VD and Gore. On 2nd and goal too!

How about VD. He was open but could have been more open if he stops and doesn't run right into the DB and cover himself.

See, how much better do you all want Roman to design these plays when Kap is completely ignoring the easier throws?

Jd orr thl what happened to smith lynch thank you.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
I think we generally do a good job on play calling during the 1st quarter, but progressively get worse as the game goes on. This tells me our first 10-15 plays are probably scripted and they tend to work well. After we run through our scripted plays roman has a tough time calling plays on the fly. This was just something I have noticed watching the games so I went ahead a looked up our scoring by quarter.

1st quarter- Ranked #6
2nd quarter- Ranked #15
3rd quarter- Ranked #27
4th quarter- Ranked #32

It's been well documented about our struggles scoring in the 2nd half and the ineptitude of Roman/harbaugh being able to make adjustments. We average 5.5 points TOTAL in the 2nd half. That just isn't good enough even with our defense

Wow, that is pretty damning evidence to a complete systematic meltdown.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:
This probably has something to do with it (not an excuse for their play ON the field but it's a bit more understandable): http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/12/11/39806/

Eric Branch:

"We had a lot of injuries and that really hurt us this year," running back Frank Gore said to the Seattle media this week. "Each week there is someone missing. As an O-line, that can't happen. Even in camp, our whole O-line hasn't been together since we came in. As a lineman, you have to be together all the time. Practice, games, you can't have one guy here this week, one guy missing here next week. That will hurt you and I think it has hurt us this year."

A look at the playing time of 49ers' starting offensive line from 2012-14:

2012
LT Joe Staley: 986 of 1,032 snaps
LG Mike Iupati: 1,007 of 1,032
C Jonathan Goodwin: 1,007 of 1,032
RG Alex Boone: 1,031 of 1,032
RT Anthony Davis: 1,032 of 1,032

Missed starts: 0
Missed snaps: 97
Starting combinations: 1

2013
LT Joe Staley: 958 of 1,022
LG Mike Iupati: 715 of 1,022
C Jonathan Goodwin: 1,005 of 1,022
RG Alex Boone: 1,021 of 1,022
RT Anthony Davis: 1,001 of 1,022

Missed starts: 4
Missed snaps: 410
Starting combinations: 2

2014
LT Joe Staley: 884 of 888
LG Mike Iupati: 773 of 888
C Daniel Kilgore: 463 of 888
RG Alex Boone: 834 of 888
RT Anthony Davis: 300 of 888

Missed starts: 16
Missed snaps: 1,186
Starting combinations: 6

And that's what it looks like when a strength becomes a liability.

It certainly only magnifies regression on offense on every front.

I really enjoyed this article by BR's Matt Bowen (former NFL safety) that gives a nice review on why the 49ers offense looks broken. He hits on all the factors contributing to the team's offensive struggles and pins it on a certain area, the overall scheme.
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(excerpt from article)
"The San Francisco 49ers? I really don't know the answer. Power? Spread? Zone Read? Pro Style?

This system under head coach Jim Harbaugh and offensive coordinator Greg Roman looks broken, and the impact has filtered down to Colin Kaepernick at the quarterback position. Does Kaepernick need to play better? There is no question about that. In this league, it starts and ends with the production under center.

That's a must to win games and move the ball consistently in critical situations. From ball placement to route progressions, Kaepernick has struggled. But I can't ignore the lack of flow (or structure) that exists in the play-calling out in San Francisco......


During the Week 14 loss to the Oakland Raiders, the 49ers ran two straight power plays in the first quarter (Counter OF, Power O) out of 21 (2WR-1TE-2RB) and 22 (1WR-2TE-2RB) personnel for gains of five and 11 yards with Frank Gore.

That's good production. Establish the front. Line up and run the ball downhill. The next play? The 49ers spread the field and ran an inside handoff with wide receiver Anquan Boldin aligned in the backfield.

Why?"
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The four plays he refers to in the article are found here:
play#1 (gif of INT)
play#2 (Spot route)
play#3 (Verticals vs cover3)
play#4 (deep Curl vs cover3)

Besides his focus on Kap, I think he does a good summarizing and referring with examples why the 49ers seem to 'lack an identity' while acknowledging that many offenses are multiple nowadays. The 49ers take multiplicity to another level. In the end, I think the coaches bit off more than they can chew by trying to be a power run offense with 22 personnel, and 5 wide spread passing attack, with everything in between. This type of offense that tries to do everything takes years to implement and trying to do it with a green QB and poor Oline play is a recipe for disaster.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by thl408:
3Q 2nd & Goal

49ers: Slant-flat to Kap's right.
OAK: cover 2 zone

Incomplete.

This play actually got 3 players open and guess which player was the toughest throw? Yup, Boldin. For Kap to make that throw, it would have to have been amazingly perfect. But, he missed two wide open players in VD and Gore. On 2nd and goal too!

How about VD. He was open but could have been more open if he stops and doesn't run right into the DB and cover himself.

See, how much better do you all want Roman to design these plays when Kap is completely ignoring the easier throws?

3? It looks like Boldin is his primary read who's covered at the moment he looks to him, nobody was open on the left at the time he peers over there and then he comes back to Boldin who has a step and a window for completion but horrible throw! And, of course, we never throw to backs as a primary read not names Miller so...

Its funny, if you employ Seattle's game plan, even with these same formations and make the RB the primary read, we win. And once that happens, imagine what the intermediate-deeper routes will start to look like.

This is a very simple and coachable thing to do...HaRoman can even make the RB's the primary read as well to help CK out IMHO. Given we've seen this for two straight years now (ignoring of the short game), I speculate that perhaps, CK is coached to keep his eyes down field as that is where most of our routes end up being vs. just taking the simple check downs. Just speculating...b/c these are such simple passes to make.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Jd orr thl what happened to smith lynch thank you.

I think OAK did a nice job often lining up a TE on Aldon's side. When they didn't do that, they gave the LT help with the LG. Alson was rarely ever single blocked. Lynch didn't get many snaps (18 snaps per footballoutsiders) in favor of Skuta (44). I like Skuta, but the 49ers needed Lynch in there. Just subbing Lynch in and out doesn't allow him to get into the flow of the game. Doesn't allow him to set up pass rush moves by playing down after down. The only reason I can think of why Skuta got lots of playing time is because Carr liked to throw short (coming into this game) and Skuta is an alert pass defender. The OAK Oline had a very good game pass pro wise. They gave Aldon the attention he warranted and was adept picking up line stunts - I'm jealous.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Jd orr thl what happened to smith lynch thank you.

I think OAK did a nice job often lining up a TE on Aldon's side. When they didn't do that, they gave the LT help with the LG. Alson was rarely ever single blocked. Lynch didn't get many snaps (18 snaps per footballoutsiders) in favor of Skuta (44). I like Skuta, but the 49ers needed Lynch in there. Just subbing Lynch in and out doesn't allow him to get into the flow of the game. Doesn't allow him to set up pass rush moves by playing down after down. The only reason I can think of why Skuta got lots of playing time is because Carr liked to throw short (coming into this game) and Skuta is an alert pass defender. The OAK Oline had a very good game pass pro wise. They gave Aldon the attention he warranted and was adept picking up line stunts - I'm jealous.

Not sure I can figure this one out

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by thl408:
3Q 2nd & Goal

49ers: Slant-flat to Kap's right.
OAK: cover 2 zone

Incomplete.

This play actually got 3 players open and guess which player was the toughest throw? Yup, Boldin. For Kap to make that throw, it would have to have been amazingly perfect. But, he missed two wide open players in VD and Gore. On 2nd and goal too!

How about VD. He was open but could have been more open if he stops and doesn't run right into the DB and cover himself.

See, how much better do you all want Roman to design these plays when Kap is completely ignoring the easier throws?

3? It looks like Boldin is his primary read who's covered at the moment he looks to him, nobody was open on the left at the time he peers over there and then he comes back to Boldin who has a step and a window for completion but horrible throw! And, of course, we never throw to backs as a primary read not names Miller so...

Its funny, if you employ Seattle's game plan, even with these same formations and make the RB the primary read, we win. And once that happens, imagine what the intermediate-deeper routes will start to look like.

This is a very simple and coachable thing to do...HaRoman can even make the RB's the primary read as well to help CK out IMHO. Given we've seen this for two straight years now (ignoring of the short game), I speculate that perhaps, CK is coached to keep his eyes down field as that is where most of our routes end up being vs. just taking the simple check downs. Just speculating...b/c these are such simple passes to make.

I wish Looney hadn't given up pressure up the middle here. Would have liked to see what Kap would do. He had VD underneath for a small window and although VD would have probably been tackled short of the goaline, it could have been close. VD was 'open' but Kap had to side step pressure. A pass to Gore would probably had resulted in a short gain as well with the defenders in zone and able to see the pass coming.

Originally posted by thl408:
I really enjoyed this article by BR's Matt Bowen (former NFL safety) that gives a nice review on why the 49ers offense looks broken. He hits on all the factors contributing to the team's offensive struggles and pins it on a certain area, the overall scheme.
-------------
(excerpt from article)
"The San Francisco 49ers? I really don't know the answer. Power? Spread? Zone Read? Pro Style?

This system under head coach Jim Harbaugh and offensive coordinator Greg Roman looks broken, and the impact has filtered down to Colin Kaepernick at the quarterback position. Does Kaepernick need to play better? There is no question about that. In this league, it starts and ends with the production under center.

That's a must to win games and move the ball consistently in critical situations. From ball placement to route progressions, Kaepernick has struggled. But I can't ignore the lack of flow (or structure) that exists in the play-calling out in San Francisco......


During the Week 14 loss to the Oakland Raiders, the 49ers ran two straight power plays in the first quarter (Counter OF, Power O) out of 21 (2WR-1TE-2RB) and 22 (1WR-2TE-2RB) personnel for gains of five and 11 yards with Frank Gore.

That's good production. Establish the front. Line up and run the ball downhill. The next play? The 49ers spread the field and ran an inside handoff with wide receiver Anquan Boldin aligned in the backfield.

Why?"
-----------------
The four plays he refers to in the article are found here:
play#1 (gif of INT)
play#2 (Spot route)
play#3 (Verticals vs cover3)
play#4 (deep Curl vs cover3)

Besides his focus on Kap, I think he does a good summarizing and referring with examples why the 49ers seem to 'lack an identity' while acknowledging that many offenses are multiple nowadays. The 49ers take multiplicity to another level. In the end, I think the coaches bit off more than they can chew by trying to be a power run offense with 22 personnel, and 5 wide spread passing attack, with everything in between. This type of offense that tries to do everything takes years to implement and trying to do it with a green QB and poor Oline play is a recipe for disaster.

Yes good article. His weekly film analysis is the only reason I visit bleacher report.

Originally posted by thl408:
I really enjoyed this article by BR's Matt Bowen (former NFL safety) that gives a nice review on why the 49ers offense looks broken. He hits on all the factors contributing to the team's offensive struggles and pins it on a certain area, the overall scheme.
-------------
(excerpt from article)
"The San Francisco 49ers? I really don't know the answer. Power? Spread? Zone Read? Pro Style?

This system under head coach Jim Harbaugh and offensive coordinator Greg Roman looks broken, and the impact has filtered down to Colin Kaepernick at the quarterback position. Does Kaepernick need to play better? There is no question about that. In this league, it starts and ends with the production under center.

That's a must to win games and move the ball consistently in critical situations. From ball placement to route progressions, Kaepernick has struggled. But I can't ignore the lack of flow (or structure) that exists in the play-calling out in San Francisco......


During the Week 14 loss to the Oakland Raiders, the 49ers ran two straight power plays in the first quarter (Counter OF, Power O) out of 21 (2WR-1TE-2RB) and 22 (1WR-2TE-2RB) personnel for gains of five and 11 yards with Frank Gore.

That's good production. Establish the front. Line up and run the ball downhill. The next play? The 49ers spread the field and ran an inside handoff with wide receiver Anquan Boldin aligned in the backfield.

Why?"
-----------------
The four plays he refers to in the article are found here:
play#1 (gif of INT)
play#2 (Spot route)
play#3 (Verticals vs cover3)
play#4 (deep Curl vs cover3)

Besides his focus on Kap, I think he does a good summarizing and referring with examples why the 49ers seem to 'lack an identity' while acknowledging that many offenses are multiple nowadays. The 49ers take multiplicity to another level. In the end, I think the coaches bit off more than they can chew by trying to be a power run offense with 22 personnel, and 5 wide spread passing attack, with everything in between. This type of offense that tries to do everything takes years to implement and trying to do it with a green QB and poor Oline play is a recipe for disaster.

This is a terrific article and really captures how I've felt for a couple years now. I think it was reinforced even more on a Sunday/Monday night game when Chucky (a WCO expert) was noting all the different schemes (WCO, pro-style, RO, etc.), formations (and how WE ran them), personnel shifts, etc. we were running and he summed it up by saying, "I don't know WHAT the heck this offense is." It just got me focused more on how important offensive philosophy, scheme, game planning, etc. can lead to production or non-production on the field. Then we started watching defenses adjust. It took a bit to sift through the smoke-and-mirrors but you could see it more and more as DC's were catching on to our tendencies (e.g. follow the move-man on running plays and you can stuff the run, etc.; key in on primary reads, etc.). At the end of the day, I think you are witnessing an offense that has no real identity and has completely been figured out. As much as I love Harbaugh, IMHO, he will never succeed any further than this in the NFL...with his offensive system. And sadly, that means it's probably time to move on...which just sucks. But I feel even worse for guys like Gore, J.Smith, etc.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
I think we generally do a good job on play calling during the 1st quarter, but progressively get worse as the game goes on. This tells me our first 10-15 plays are probably scripted and they tend to work well. After we run through our scripted plays roman has a tough time calling plays on the fly. This was just something I have noticed watching the games so I went ahead a looked up our scoring by quarter.

1st quarter- Ranked #6
2nd quarter- Ranked #15
3rd quarter- Ranked #27
4th quarter- Ranked #32

It's been well documented about our struggles scoring in the 2nd half and the ineptitude of Roman/harbaugh being able to make adjustments. We average 5.5 points TOTAL in the 2nd half. That just isn't good enough even with our defense

That is effing terrible. Sometimes a stat looks so bad it can make you chuckle. This is one of them.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by thl408:
3Q 2nd & Goal

49ers: Slant-flat to Kap's right.
OAK: cover 2 zone

Incomplete.

This play actually got 3 players open and guess which player was the toughest throw? Yup, Boldin. For Kap to make that throw, it would have to have been amazingly perfect. But, he missed two wide open players in VD and Gore. On 2nd and goal too!

How about VD. He was open but could have been more open if he stops and doesn't run right into the DB and cover himself.

See, how much better do you all want Roman to design these plays when Kap is completely ignoring the easier throws?

3? It looks like Boldin is his primary read who's covered at the moment he looks to him, nobody was open on the left at the time he peers over there and then he comes back to Boldin who has a step and a window for completion but horrible throw! And, of course, we never throw to backs as a primary read not names Miller so...

Its funny, if you employ Seattle's game plan, even with these same formations and make the RB the primary read, we win. And once that happens, imagine what the intermediate-deeper routes will start to look like.

This is a very simple and coachable thing to do...HaRoman can even make the RB's the primary read as well to help CK out IMHO. Given we've seen this for two straight years now (ignoring of the short game), I speculate that perhaps, CK is coached to keep his eyes down field as that is where most of our routes end up being vs. just taking the simple check downs. Just speculating...b/c these are such simple passes to make.

I wish Looney hadn't given up pressure up the middle here. Would have liked to see what Kap would do. He had VD underneath for a small window and although VD would have probably been tackled short of the goaline, it could have been close. VD was 'open' but Kap had to side step pressure. A pass to Gore would probably had resulted in a short gain as well with the defenders in zone and able to see the pass coming.

God, hasn't THIS been a microcasm of so many issues this year...the OL giving up pressure (or penalties) at THE worst time. I'm happy to see CK working through progressions here and coming BACK to his primary read and trying to hang in there but...there it is again. Some is on CK as well naturally but these plays are so frustrating to watch!