If Jim Harbaugh leaves, who do you want as the next coach of the 49ers(All Coaching Rumors

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Here is problem. Depending on who they bring in could mean that there will be a LOT of roster turnover. What if the next guy runs a 3-4 defense? Do we have the personnel for that? No. Does that mean Aldon Smith is gone? Probably. What about the offense? If we run a spread VD is most likely gone and so is McDonald (not that he's done much). Point being is this s**t could go south FAST!

You mean different from the 3/4 Fangio uses as his base? Aldon Smith gone?

Lol! Sorry, I meant 4-3.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Lol! Sorry, I meant 4-3.

Ahh! Should have guessed that!

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by captveg:
Reports that Holmgren wants the job. Reports that Gruden wants the job.

Baalke is gonna be able to pick between 6-7 guys, easily. LOL at Kawakami and others who think they'll promote Roman (seriously - LOLOLOLOL). I also doubt they go with someone with primarily defensive experience.

that is what i say,, some people think when jh leaves, the niners will cease to exist, the webzone will cease to exist, everything we ever knew about the niners would have just vanished. they have little faith in the front office to bring in a good person and yes, this job is attractive to many people like gruden and holmgren i would bet.. sad to say the job and our team is more attractive to a coach than to some of our so called fans right now ,,, our next coach is someone NOT nor should it be someone on the current coaching staff

Here is problem. Depending on who they bring in could mean that there will be a LOT of roster turnover. What if the next guy runs a 3-4 defense? Do we have the personnel for that? No. Does that mean Aldon Smith is gone? Probably. What about the offense? If we run a spread VD is most likely gone and so is McDonald (not that he's done much). Point being is this s**t could go south FAST!

any coach whose name is not nolan or erickson or singleberry is not going to get rid of aldon smith, even though he has been the invisible man last game, those guys do not grow on trees,,, in regards to vernon davis,,,,,, i am lukewarm on giving him another shot after his s**t this year but then maybe the offense is better that what it shows under roman so give him another shot,,,, i still say we could upgrade our back up tight end spot if vernon stays.... and if a guy like gruden or holmgren come in here and want to do something different,, go for it. the s**t this year did not work, its thier right and unlike some college guy or flavor of the month oc guy ,, i would trust them because they have good track records.... some new guys could come in here and ,, pause for the shock and awe,,,, actually put something in that suits our people, establish an identity, get plays called in on time and gee,,,,,, if we need 9 yards for a first down, do not call a f**king pass for four yards

I'm all for a great mind but I think that Gruden and Holmgren times have passed.

I agree bringing in Bowles or any other D coach assuming Fangio and Tomsula are still here would be a slap in the face to them. I'd rather bring in one of those 2 guys because they can probably offer the same thing but already are familiar with our players, coaches, system, etc. I think Fangio or Tomsula could keep this thing rolling WITH the right OC but I wold worry that we would have turnstyle oc's as you put it. I think Fangio or Tomsula (fangio and d staff stay) with a proven vet OC like a Turner assuming he wouldn't flake again would keep this thing rolling. Problem is do those guys got the connection to get a vet proven OC? Sure they could go with a young guy but last thing we would want is our OC's changing every year whether that's due to going on to be a HC or because they are struggling. Edit: I think that making Fangio or Tomsula the HC would likely keep our d staff together for the most part. That would be another plus in their favor.

Is Pete Carroll like 65 years old?

What's wrong w Holmgren being 66 then

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Question. Do we actually know the reason is because Harbaugh won't fire Roman or are we speculating?

for not firing roman after all the times his stupid s**t cost us games and the super bowl,,,,,,,, you think Jh should continue to get a pass on that??

I don't think he should be fired. I think smart people in the organization need to sit down and work it out. Jed has a lot of blame here as well. He should've extended Harbaugh and have him a raise after the 2nd NFCCG. It has created all of the uncertainty, discord and disfunction. IMO

Art Shell is also available

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Is Pete Carroll like 65 years old?

What's wrong w Holmgren being 66 then

63 and he's been going for 4 years now at Seattle. Holmgren starting out would be 67.

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Is Pete Carroll like 65 years old?

What's wrong w Holmgren being 66 then

Petes strength is defense and getting guys to play for him. Seattle doesn't do anything special or innovative on offense.. What they do is play great D, not ask Wilson to do a lot and run the ball with consistency.

Originally posted by Gore_21:
63 and he's been going for 4 years now at Seattle. Holmgren starting out would be 67.

Agist!

Originally posted by Gore_21:
63 and he's been going for 4 years now at Seattle. Holmgren starting out would be 67.

This. Although can you imagine if the 49ers won the Superbowl with Holmgren...."the one that got away." That would be insane, all of the 49ers SB victories would still link right back to Bill Walsh.


Out of all the possible head coaching candudates, I do fully believe that Holmgren has the best shot at turning Kaepernicks career around.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Gore_21:
63 and he's been going for 4 years now at Seattle. Holmgren starting out would be 67.

This. Although can you imagine if the 49ers won the Superbowl with Holmgren...."the one that got away." That would be insane, all of the 49ers SB victories would still link right back to Bill Walsh.


Out of all the possible head coaching candudates, I do fully believe that Holmgren has the best shot at turning Kaepernicks career around.

He could be the head coach, wouldn't want him doing anything with the offense. Would rather have a different offensive coordinator.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
He could be the head coach, wouldn't want him doing anything with the offense. Would rather have a different offensive coordinator.

I think you could see a guy like Morhinweg as the OC if Holmgren became the coach.

As long as Holmgren was restricted to coaching duties and had no powers on the personnel side beyond what the average coach has, Id be okay with him.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This. Although can you imagine if the 49ers won the Superbowl with Holmgren...."the one that got away." That would be insane, all of the 49ers SB victories would still link right back to Bill Walsh.


Out of all the possible head coaching candudates, I do fully believe that Holmgren has the best shot at turning Kaepernicks career around.

By the way thanks for your ranking of coaches in the thread that got locked up. The good news is though he would be 67 this team is ready now so we could compete for a sb for 2-4 years yet until Holmgren would retire. The bad news is how long would it take to put in the WCO and get Kap up to speed and turn him into a better pocket passer? If he wants to install the WCO wouldn't it take 2-3 years and by the time we get rolling is Holmgren going to still want to coach?

What worries me is Holmgren won more than 10 games (11 lock for playoffs these days) 5 times out of 17 years. Harbaugh did that 3 times in his first 3 years (well now 3 out of 4 years). I'm seeing a lot of 9-7 years, 7 times out of 17 which is not good enough for the playoffs these days in the NFC. Plus he hasn't been a HC in what 6 years. I don't know Holmgren and Gruden's best days might be behind them. People I think get caught up in the big names(the gruden, cowhers, dungy's) but I don't think they are the saviors everyone wants them to be. The game probably passed them by. Gruden's been out for 6 years too but one argument in his favor is he's 51 not 66.

Edit: Also, Holmgren would probably want a say in personnel which is probably a no no. 2nd, he would probably call the plays which I don't think gets the most out of you as a coach on game days. Those types tend to be bad in other areas although he does have a ton of experience on game days. It's been so long can't remember how he handled both duties. 3rd, if he doesn't plan on calling the plays he probably brings some over the hill washed up oc. Someone who wouldn't be a part of our future. He doesn't really work with young guys, he likes vets.

I want someone who can teach and adjust and DEVELOP the passing game into the 21st Century.