Who would be the best choice to replace Harbaugh?

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Broseph6:
This is so fukking stupid! This is why people make fun of 49ers fans!! I'm a 49ers fan this is ridiculous! Best coach in the league

well actually every fan base gets made fun of for some reason or another. even if all the speculation is 100% bogus, theres so much of it out there right now that whats wrong with having this conversation? most people want harbaugh to stay, but theres nothing wrong with running through some scenarios for down the line.

no there is not. the front office never had a plan to replace mooch so it is up to us to have a plan in case JH leaves,, of course my vote goes for gruden. if JH leaves and esp if gruden comes in , we know for sure roman will be gone!!! we do not miss a beat, you get a established coach coming in taking over a good team, it does not affect your ticket sales for a new stadium. you get a OC who knows something and we do not miss a beat

1st off they had a plan after mooch it was just a s**tty one
B Gruden is not going to give up his TV gig so stop talking about him
and Fourthly this entire thing is silly

i firmly disagree with bullet point number one, are you saying they planned to replace mooch with erickson all along? they had no plan,, zero
in regards to bullet point number two,, you could almost feel gruden drooling at the potential of his offense when he did games for us on tv and he could barely sustain his dislike for roman,, i think if there is one job that would draw him out, this would be it
in regards to bullet point number 3,, it gets worse and worse every day and it is no longer "silly" in my opinion. all of these stories are not media generate lies like some believe. to believe that would mean you are whistling past the end zone

OH yeah I forgot you know more than the team and believe everything you see on the internets

carry on

my bad

you can just blow off multiple reports and stories as saying the media is lying and roman is smoking meth?

its amazing when you dont want something to be true how quickly the phrase " dont believe everything on the internet" gets muttered. the truth is these reports arent 100% true, but they also probably arent 0% true.

you guys need to wake up and smell what this game is all about

it's about getting people to click on your website and not NFL.COM

Originally posted by SoCold:
you guys need to wake up and smell what this game is all about

it's about getting people to click on your website and not NFL.COM

i'm very aware of what this games about. for those who 100% believe these reports are correct, i think you're wrong. for those who believe theres absolutely nothing to this. i also think you're wrong.

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by SoCold:
you guys need to wake up and smell what this game is all about

it's about getting people to click on your website and not NFL.COM

i'm very aware of what this games about. for those who 100% believe these reports are correct, i think you're wrong. for those who believe theres absolutely nothing to this. i also think you're wrong.

of course there's something to it there always is

a reporter talks to someone, some "source" and turns a piece of s**t into a pile

the Browns asking one question turn into the 49ers have been looking to trade Harbaugh since they lost the NFCCG

lol

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by SoCold:
you guys need to wake up and smell what this game is all about

it's about getting people to click on your website and not NFL.COM

i'm very aware of what this games about. for those who 100% believe these reports are correct, i think you're wrong. for those who believe theres absolutely nothing to this. i also think you're wrong.

of course there's something to it there always is

a reporter talks to someone, some "source" and turns a piece of s**t into a pile

the Browns asking one question turn into the 49ers have been looking to trade Harbaugh since they lost the NFCCG

lol

its been building longer than that. it dates back to last offseason and the reports of not being able to get a contract extension done. i dont care about what other teams like cleveland say. i'm trying to figure out if harbaugh is the larry brown of the nfl.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by SoCold:
FACT

Jim Harbaugh winning % .766

John Madden .752
Vince Lombardi .738

three straight NFCCG and a SB

anyone else in the history of forever say that?

This may be true for the NFC - but Marv Levy did it 4 straight SUPER BOWLS ...... does that make Levy better than Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs? History remembers all of those coaches much more favorably.


Is there a special "Three Straight NFCCG" Lombardi Trophy for that?

John has one...
Vince has NFL Championships....

No trophies for second place. JH has a better winning percentage than Bill Walsh. Now, who would like to have Bill Walsh back if it were at all possible?









Yep, thought so.

so you wanna get ride of him before he has a chance to win a SB is that it?

you can't win if you don't get there

No don't change the parameters of your original argument. This is about Harbaugh compared to coaches who haven't done what he has done historically. Stay with that ....

I could make the same argument about Marv Levy who did even better than Harbaugh and had a better team 4 straight seasons to the Super Bowl. I didn't say get rid of him - the name of this thread is "who would better replace him" not "do you want to get rid of him."

Someone tried to compare him to Gruden and said that Gruden was "overrated" after his "Super Bowl win" ....lol. You just can't gloss over the standard by which every team, organization, coach, QB and fan uses as a measuring stick for success.

Jim Harbaugh is the best thing to happen to the 49ers in the last two decades

FACT

One turnover away from going to a SB his 1st year
One play away from winning a SB his 2nd year
One play away from going back to the SB his 3rd year

all the talk of replacing him is stupid

I'd take Jim over any other coach in the game right now and he has the chance to be a legend

if you let him

Your opinion. That's great. If you think replacing him is dumb just come out and say so ... don't try to create comparisons that don't support your point of view..

I see you shifted categories again - so now the category isn't 3 NFC Championships, it's who's the best thing to come along for the 49ers in the past 20 years.

Again I'd disagree .... the organization in 1996-1997 was pretty stout and lost to the NFC Champ at the time .....

I could also flip those stats you just quoted ......

Why One turnover away from going to a SB his 1st year
Why One play away from winning a SB his 2nd year
Why One play away from going back to the SB his 3rd year

Yeah these are all true - one play away on OFFENSE and the only reason why we were in any of these games was because of the defensive play/coaching. Harbs wasn't brought in to be a defensive coach. He was brought in to be an offensive minded coach who knew QBs. He was brought in to provide a shot to the offense in all the examples you provided, it was the offense that just couldn't quite deliver. Where was the running game in all three of those contests? Was the passing game clutch?

Is Harbs a better option sure but for every conceivable "fact" that people can argue in this manner, the basic point is still true.

No trophy. You can't compare him to coaches who have one.

the job of a Head Coach is putting the players in the best position to win the game

he's done that on one of the highest levels the last three years

yes I think replacing one of the top coaches in the league the last three years would be very stupid



Jim should just retire now he'd have like the 2nd highest winning % of all time

Vince Lombardi? Don Shula? Bill Walsh? Bill Parcels? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy Johnson? Any of those guys would probably be fine.

Originally posted by SoCold:
the job of a Head Coach is putting the players in the best position to win the game

he's done that on one of the highest levels the last three years

yes I think replacing one of the top coaches in the league the last three years would be very stupid



Jim should just retire now he'd have like the 2nd highest winning % of all time

looking at it from the other side, if JH is backing the team into a corner over control, roman, money, power, whatever... you then have to decide if you are a organization that allows a coach, who has a drama history, to hold a gun to your head. If not then you make a unpopular decision that may be the right decision to cut him loose. you then rely on a good front office, which we did not have in post mooch,, to come up with a good plan b , That is why I really think hiring a person like gruden or cower is the route to go esp as you try to sell tickets for a new stadium. I can also see those who say promote toms to head coach but make damn sure you get a OC who knows that the hell is going on in here. that being said i do not think the team has to deal with this, if they ever do at all, till after next year. Jh is here for this coming year for sure in my opinion

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SoCold:
the job of a Head Coach is putting the players in the best position to win the game

he's done that on one of the highest levels the last three years

yes I think replacing one of the top coaches in the league the last three years would be very stupid



Jim should just retire now he'd have like the 2nd highest winning % of all time

looking at it from the other side, if JH is backing the team into a corner over control, roman, money, power, whatever... you then have to decide if you are a organization that allows a coach, who has a drama history, to hold a gun to your head. If not then you make a unpopular decision that may be the right decision to cut him loose. you then rely on a good front office, which we did not have in post mooch,, to come up with a good plan b , That is why I really think hiring a person like gruden or cower is the route to go esp as you try to sell tickets for a new stadium. I can also see those who say promote toms to head coach but make damn sure you get a OC who knows that the hell is going on in here. that being said i do not think the team has to deal with this, if they ever do at all, till after next year. Jh is here for this coming year for sure in my opinion

thinking a guy like Gruden could come into the 49ers after not coaching for years and relate to the team and current league is commical

I'm done here.

Originally posted by crake49:
Vince Lombardi? Don Shula? Bill Walsh? Bill Parcels? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy Johnson? Any of those guys would probably be fine.

Jimmy Johnson was average in Miami, Joe Gibbs could do nothing after he unretired. Bill Parcels couldn't do much with the Jets or Dallas. Even Bill Walsh was 17-17-1 from 92-94 with Stanford.

Originally posted by SoCold:
thinking a guy like Gruden could come into the 49ers after not coaching for years and relate to the team and current league is commical

I'm done here.

Amazing, isn't it. Gruden? With his .540 winning percentage? Gruden took his own Super Bowl winning team to a 7-9 record the very next year. You've got to be quite a coach to take a team that just won a Super Bowl and turn in a losing record. At least Seifert and Switzer were able to take over Super Bowl winners and continue winning.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SoCold:
the job of a Head Coach is putting the players in the best position to win the game

he's done that on one of the highest levels the last three years

yes I think replacing one of the top coaches in the league the last three years would be very stupid



Jim should just retire now he'd have like the 2nd highest winning % of all time

looking at it from the other side, if JH is backing the team into a corner over control, roman, money, power, whatever... you then have to decide if you are a organization that allows a coach, who has a drama history, to hold a gun to your head. If not then you make a unpopular decision that may be the right decision to cut him loose. you then rely on a good front office, which we did not have in post mooch,, to come up with a good plan b , That is why I really think hiring a person like gruden or cower is the route to go esp as you try to sell tickets for a new stadium. I can also see those who say promote toms to head coach but make damn sure you get a OC who knows that the hell is going on in here. that being said i do not think the team has to deal with this, if they ever do at all, till after next year. Jh is here for this coming year for sure in my opinion

thinking a guy like Gruden could come into the 49ers after not coaching for years and relate to the team and current league is commical

I'm done here.

thats fine. then plug in any established coaches name. I think that is the way to go, IF JH goes. all i am doing is responding to the question posed by the original poster. if you think its a silly topic then indeed do not respond while the rest of us silly people will continue to throw this thing back and forth. it is interesting to ponder in my opinion

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by crake49:
Vince Lombardi? Don Shula? Bill Walsh? Bill Parcels? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy Johnson? Any of those guys would probably be fine.

Jimmy Johnson was average in Miami, Joe Gibbs could do nothing after he unretired. Bill Parcels couldn't do much with the Jets or Dallas. Even Bill Walsh was 17-17-1 from 92-94 with Stanford.

Hey, that's absolutely correct! Even some of the most storied Hall of Fame coaches could possibly have a hard time repeating a .760 winning percentage and three NFC Championships in a row. Who would have thunk it?

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by crake49:
Vince Lombardi? Don Shula? Bill Walsh? Bill Parcels? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy Johnson? Any of those guys would probably be fine.

Jimmy Johnson was average in Miami, Joe Gibbs could do nothing after he unretired. Bill Parcels couldn't do much with the Jets or Dallas. Even Bill Walsh was 17-17-1 from 92-94 with Stanford.

they never reached the heights they were once at, but gibbs in his 2nd go around in washington had them as a playoff team 2 times and parcells had the jets in the afc title game.

my lord,, four per cent for roman?? i would love to hear from one of those four per cent

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by SoCold:
FACT

Jim Harbaugh winning % .766

John Madden .752
Vince Lombardi .738

three straight NFCCG and a SB

anyone else in the history of forever say that?

This may be true for the NFC - but Marv Levy did it 4 straight SUPER BOWLS ...... does that make Levy better than Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs? History remembers all of those coaches much more favorably.


Is there a special "Three Straight NFCCG" Lombardi Trophy for that?

John has one...
Vince has NFL Championships....

No trophies for second place. JH has a better winning percentage than Bill Walsh. Now, who would like to have Bill Walsh back if it were at all possible?









Yep, thought so.

so you wanna get ride of him before he has a chance to win a SB is that it?

you can't win if you don't get there

No don't change the parameters of your original argument. This is about Harbaugh compared to coaches who haven't done what he has done historically. Stay with that ....

I could make the same argument about Marv Levy who did even better than Harbaugh and had a better team 4 straight seasons to the Super Bowl. I didn't say get rid of him - the name of this thread is "who would better replace him" not "do you want to get rid of him."

Someone tried to compare him to Gruden and said that Gruden was "overrated" after his "Super Bowl win" ....lol. You just can't gloss over the standard by which every team, organization, coach, QB and fan uses as a measuring stick for success.

Jim Harbaugh is the best thing to happen to the 49ers in the last two decades

FACT

One turnover away from going to a SB his 1st year
One play away from winning a SB his 2nd year
One play away from going back to the SB his 3rd year

all the talk of replacing him is stupid

I'd take Jim over any other coach in the game right now and he has the chance to be a legend

if you let him

What about the Superbowl we won 19 years ago?