2014 Team Needs - Updates

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:
I wanna know when the team is going to address a real need: the need to get rid of Adam Snyder!

And replace him with the next Guy McIntire. Looking at some of those gifs posted in threads by Jonnydel really shows Snyder missing on key blocks. What good is his knowledge of the playbook if he can't execute when he's in there?

Seems like there are plenty of OTs (Staley, Davis, Martin, Boone, etc.), but really need an interior lineman with some moxie, some nastiness to him.

Kilgore the answer? I hope so. And another hard nosed, athletic, strong and fast interior lineman is needed to sub in. Looney? How did Snyder beat either Kilgore or Looney for playing time last year? This draft should tell us something about Kilgore's and Looney's future. IMHO

Yes, that's a good one, indeed! Looney (sub'd in at RG for Boone) seemed to be the guy for sure until playoff time, in a pinch and naturally, the coaching staff went with the two veterans, Snyder and Rogers. Fail. I do like Looney's nastiness...thl408 also watched the film of him playing RG and he noticed the same...he doesn't stop blocking until the whistle (and a bit afterwards pissing off a few defenders).

It sounds like Martin is going to be a swing T and work in at G as well. Seymour is another guy I heard some from late last year. Also, T Luke Marquardt seems to have some serious upside as well. But in the end, I think we'll be looking at an interior lineman as well, potentially a C/G like Marcus Martin.

Looney also seems to have the athletic ability (his 40 time at the combine was half a second--.5--FASTER than deCastro's! If he's got the right attitude and (by now) knows the scheme and his assignments, there's no reason he shouldn't step up.

I still think they will draft OL in the later rounds, looking for that hidden gem to develop for the future.

And hopefully it's the last we see of Snyder.

Yes, yes and MORE yes!

Originally posted by DeUh:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Looney also seems to have the athletic ability (his 40 time at the combine was half a second--.5--FASTER than deCastro's! If he's got the right attitude and (by now) knows the scheme and his assignments, there's no reason he shouldn't step up.

I still think they will draft OL in the later rounds, looking for that hidden gem to develop for the future.

And hopefully it's the last we see of Snyder.

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT/OG McGill

This is getting good now! Good eye, gentlemen.

Originally posted by DeUh:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Looney also seems to have the athletic ability (his 40 time at the combine was half a second--.5--FASTER than deCastro's! If he's got the right attitude and (by now) knows the scheme and his assignments, there's no reason he shouldn't step up.

I still think they will draft OL in the later rounds, looking for that hidden gem to develop for the future.

And hopefully it's the last we see of Snyder.

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT/OG McGill

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well...did Baalke find a gem here? Let's watch closely on this one. Well done DeUh!

Originally posted by NCommand:
This is getting good now! Good eye, gentlemen.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by DeUh:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Well...did Baalke find a gem here? Let's watch closely on this one. Well done DeUh!

Originally posted by NCommand:

This is getting good now! Good eye, gentlemen.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

LOL

NC, saw 3 different mock drafts on Espn and NFl today, and in all , the top 7 WRs and the top 6 CBs were all gone by slot #30. If we want that CB , we have to move up. Same for one of the best WRs, altho plenty of good WRs in rds 2 and 3.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
NC, saw 3 different mock drafts on Espn and NFl today, and in all , the top 7 WRs and the top 6 CBs were all gone by slot #30. If we want that CB , we have to move up. Same for one of the best WRs, altho plenty of good WRs in rds 2 and 3.

Yeah and I originally thought S Calvin Pryor may fall to us at 30 but now all I see is him in the teens. With a second surgery on Spillman's hand and Dahl only being a ST player, we have nobody proven back there with ANY ability to start should Reid get another concussion or Bethea gets injured. This is being a largely overlooked team need. But like you said, it sure looks like we'll need to move up to get that CB or WR now, sadly.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
NC, saw 3 different mock drafts on Espn and NFl today, and in all , the top 7 WRs and the top 6 CBs were all gone by slot #30. If we want that CB , we have to move up. Same for one of the best WRs, altho plenty of good WRs in rds 2 and 3.

Yeah and I originally thought S Calvin Pryor may fall to us at 30 but now all I see is him in the teens. With a second surgery on Spillman's hand and Dahl only being a ST player, we have nobody proven back there with ANY ability to start should Reid get another concussion or Bethea gets injured. This is being a largely overlooked team need. But like you said, it sure looks like we'll need to move up to get that CB or WR now, sadly.

Paso & NC--CBS has two guys (Kirwin & Brinson) taking Latimer for the niners at #30, and one (Brugler) taking Cooks at that spot. The final guy (Prisco) had them taking Jean-Baptiste. The odd man out was Rang placing Ealy with the niners at #30. But most have Cooks going much higher than 30, so that's quite an outlier.

Mayock has the niners taking Tuit. Walters has us trading up to #12 for Beckham...wouldn't mind that at all! They see it costing a first and second this year and a second next year...which I believe would be a steal. But there might be some other players at 12 I'd like more...a few hours away!

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

NC, saw 3 different mock drafts on Espn and NFl today, and in all , the top 7 WRs and the top 6 CBs were all gone by slot #30. If we want that CB , we have to move up. Same for one of the best WRs, altho plenty of good WRs in rds 2 and 3.

Yeah and I originally thought S Calvin Pryor may fall to us at 30 but now all I see is him in the teens. With a second surgery on Spillman's hand and Dahl only being a ST player, we have nobody proven back there with ANY ability to start should Reid get another concussion or Bethea gets injured. This is being a largely overlooked team need. But like you said, it sure looks like we'll need to move up to get that CB or WR now, sadly.

Paso & NC--CBS has two guys (Kirwin & Brinson) taking Latimer for the niners at #30, and one (Brugler) taking Cooks at that spot. The final guy (Prisco) had them taking Jean-Baptiste. The odd man out was Rang placing Ealy with the niners at #30. But most have Cooks going much higher than 30, so that's quite an outlier.

Mayock has the niners taking Tuit. Walters has us trading up to #12 for Beckham...wouldn't mind that at all! They see it costing a first and second this year and a second next year...which I believe would be a steal. But there might be some other players at 12 I'd like more...a few hours away!

All over the map. Well done by the FO on keeping everyone guessing.

Well, I called the position...Pryor and Clinton-Dix were gone though. Like I said, if you lose Reid to a concussion or Bethea to an injury, you have NOBODY who can play behind them. Spillman is having his second surgery on his hand and Dahl is a ST player. Also, our defense is complex and it will take a good year to learn this defense. In the interim, he can play in several packages. He's essentially another FS.

trade for stevie johnson?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well, I called the position...Pryor and Clinton-Dix were gone though. Like I said, if you lose Reid to a concussion or Bethea to an injury, you have NOBODY who can play behind them. Spillman is having his second surgery on his hand and Dahl is a ST player. Also, our defense is complex and it will take a good year to learn this defense. In the interim, he can play in several packages. He's essentially another FS.

Heard a couple of comments tonight saying he could be a really good nickle or slot guy as well as FS/SS...which seems an odd combination, but an intriguing prospect. I think the main thing is his ability to make quick decisions and reach the ball without hesitation...both against the run and pass. Look forward to his being worked in over the next couple of years.

Listed as the top SS on CBS prospects list and though his speed is not super (4.47) along with quick recognition makes him fast enough.

Edit--by the way, CBS had him listed 1st or 2nd...so they don't see this as a reach.

we can scratch hybrid/nickel/variable safety packages position off of our needs. If this truly becomes the case, that is not bad for a #30 pick...also I think this draft will ending up being very meh 2-3 years from now

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well, I called the position...Pryor and Clinton-Dix were gone though. Like I said, if you lose Reid to a concussion or Bethea to an injury, you have NOBODY who can play behind them. Spillman is having his second surgery on his hand and Dahl is a ST player. Also, our defense is complex and it will take a good year to learn this defense. In the interim, he can play in several packages. He's essentially another FS.

Heard a couple of comments tonight saying he could be a really good nickle or slot guy as well as FS/SS...which seems an odd combination, but an intriguing prospect. I think the main thing is his ability to make quick decisions and reach the ball without hesitation...both against the run and pass. Look forward to his being worked in over the next couple of years.

Listed as the top SS on CBS prospects list and though his speed is not super (4.47) along with quick recognition makes him fast enough.

Edit--by the way, CBS had him listed 1st or 2nd...so they don't see this as a reach.

Absolutely LOVE this pick...very Baalke-like. Man, he sure has a pulse on team needs. Props to all who helped put this thread together. Check out the Top Tier needs lingo from the OP:

#3 S - There it is: Antoine Bethea and Eric Reid together. We just restructured Craig Dahl as some insurance and C.J. Spillman is an excellent ST player (as is Dahl). I have a feeling we'll spend a top pick for S this year to be groomed behind Bethea and he'll be more of the mold of a FS with tremendous football IQ, range and coverage ability (ala Reid last year). They need a quality back-up here with tremendous upside as Reid had 2 concussions last year and we desperately need coverage ability on the back end esp. come playoff time. The signing of Bethea means we have flexibility. Add a top S this year...or next. And now it affords us the option to draft a CB or WR who doubles as a dynamic returner! But since this draft is deep at both CB & WR, do we go S with the first pick (i.e. Calvin Pryor, Hasean Clinton-Dix or Jimmie Ward)? - And Jimmie Ward it is!!!!

Agreed, no reach at all. The furthest I saw Ward was down to #41 by Mayock. The rest noted he was either the best S or in the 20's. But who cares about that...he is an absolute perfect pick and exemplifies Baalke's ability to know our holes and add critical play in the immediate and long-term future. This is a perfect scenario for Ward to grow into the starting FS role next to Reid in the very near future WHILE adding value on the field in our nickle/dime sets. Lack of range and coverage abilities has been a huge weakness of ours esp. come playoff times.

Here is another reason to love this pick:

Gonna be SO nice to have him on the field with Brock, Culliver, Bethea and Reid. Finally, we'll be able to play more press coverage and throw a sh!tload of off-coverage schemes at the offense with all the versatility these players bring. Think about it:
Reid - can switch between either S position and may now be asked to play some single-high FS.
Ward - can play FS and in nickle/dime (60+% of the time) and double as a CB and can blitz and play ST (blocked kicks) and grow into a starter by next year utilizing the weight room.
Bethea - can play in the box, blitz and cover better than we realize in our defense.
Culliver - former slot CB and tough and physical enough to play press and off-coverage.
Brock - from UDFA and has played every CB position on our team; now our #1. Tough and physical enough to play press and off-coverage.
Wright - NFL experience and in our defense who will push the two starters.
Cox - taking a very similar path to Brock.
Cook - ST and can play press coverage.
Morris - lightning speed, our fastest gunner and will be working into the slot.

PS: Keep your eyes out for S D.J. Campbell and CB Dax Swanson as well.
BTW: This is NOW becoming Baalke/Donatell's hand-picked secondary.