Crabtree looking sharp in camp

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

I agree with the previous posters that this is all just a bit of an understandable knee-jerk reaction. I think Crabtree will be on the field today, but if he's not, that says a lot IMO.

If he doesn't practice then that gives more reps to moss, Jenkins, and Mario.

We all know what crabs can do , let the other guys get reps

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I understand your point. I pretty much feel the same way with my optimistic side. But the cynic in me seems to remember he was injured the first day of camp Alex also and wasn't there the rest of the way...

This year if he is faking it, we have better WRs to push him down the depth chart

Faking it? You know he had surgery to repair a fracture in his foot last year.

That is going to extreme lengths to fake it. I wonder what he paid Dr. Nick to do a bogus surgery.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
I agree with the previous posters that this is all just a bit of an understandable knee-jerk reaction. I think Crabtree will be on the field today, but if he's not, that says a lot IMO.

If he doesn't practice then that gives more reps to moss, Jenkins, and Mario.

We all know what crabs can do , let the other guys get reps

Crabtree needs the reps as much as anyone. Him and Smith have never had a good connection.

Hopefully he's back out there soon and this will all be put behind us. He was doing great from all the reports and from the photos on the 49ers website he looked like he was in pretty good shape too. Hopefully the ankle heals!

I think the reaction to this news is frustration over a combination of Crabtree's glass foot and the past decade of mediocrity. I'm not too worried about it. Harbaugh will cut the kid without giving it second thought if he thinks Crabtree is milking an injury.

Think of it this way: You had a couple surgeries on a foot, a pin placed in it and you roll your ankle at practice. You and the coaching staff are probably going to err on the side of caution when you're favorites to win the super bowl.

Maybe he's dealing with something else also. They did say he's working through something.

Harbaugh has said nothing but good things about him during the offseason. I'll take his word on it over some reporters who are being speculative because they have a deadline.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
. If its that same foot he had surgery on, its an issue. No need to rag on him because of an injury.

you are right. I just get a little frustrated cuz its always something with him. you and others are right when you say we have no clue what it is and how bad it is. cc knee jerk reaction

All good. We are on a super bowl run. Every little thing is going to be frustrating this year lol. At least he comes out when it counts and plays tough. He is an underrated blocker. He has probably played through the pain during the year.

Cannot agree with the bold. I'm not ragging on him for THIS injury. But there always seem to be something with Crabs, you have to agree with that. The reaction to Crabs latest injury is knee-jerk. But given Crabs history with this team could you really blame fans for having the here-we-go-again reaction? At what point can his durability be questioned? At what point can we as fans begin to call him a bust? At what point can we begin to question his commitment? At what point do "reasons" become "excuses"?

Yeah there is always somthing with his Crabs. Most of the time, its his foot. Seems like a nagging chronic condition. Its safe to assume that it effects him even during the season. But he still comes out and plays.

I don't blame fans for having the reaction. But like you said, its a knee jerk reaction indeed. Its pretty safe to question his durability and call him a bust, but the comments here say more then that.

"suspicious injuries"
"diva"
"milking the injuries"
"doesn't like practicing"

Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I see your point there. I haven't questioned if he really was injured or milking it. His commitment? Yes! His injuries? Not at all. But I don't tie his commitment to his injuries. Although I will say emphatically I think he's a "diva". At this point with Crabs I don't care that he sits up front in class. I'm not impressed that he appeared in OTA's. In my eyes, for this player, that won't tell me anything about his production on the field. For me, I need to see real consistent excuse free production. Until I see that there's nothing on God's beautiful green earth that'll get me to see Crabs as anything other than a excuse riddled over hyped 1st round diva bust because that, in a nutshell, is what I've seen of him. You are right, he is frekin injured. But that's what he always seem to be about this time of year. And that's what makes it so frustrating to fans.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
. If its that same foot he had surgery on, its an issue. No need to rag on him because of an injury.

you are right. I just get a little frustrated cuz its always something with him. you and others are right when you say we have no clue what it is and how bad it is. cc knee jerk reaction

All good. We are on a super bowl run. Every little thing is going to be frustrating this year lol. At least he comes out when it counts and plays tough. He is an underrated blocker. He has probably played through the pain during the year.

Cannot agree with the bold. I'm not ragging on him for THIS injury. But there always seem to be something with Crabs, you have to agree with that. The reaction to Crabs latest injury is knee-jerk. But given Crabs history with this team could you really blame fans for having the here-we-go-again reaction? At what point can his durability be questioned? At what point can we as fans begin to call him a bust? At what point can we begin to question his commitment? At what point do "reasons" become "excuses"?

Yeah there is always somthing with his Crabs. Most of the time, its his foot. Seems like a nagging chronic condition. Its safe to assume that it effects him even during the season. But he still comes out and plays.

I don't blame fans for having the reaction. But like you said, its a knee jerk reaction indeed. Its pretty safe to question his durability and call him a bust, but the comments here say more then that.

"suspicious injuries"
"diva"
"milking the injuries"
"doesn't like practicing"

Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I see your point there. I haven't questioned if he really was injured or milking it. His commitment? Yes! His injuries? Not at all. But I don't tie his commitment to his injuries. Although I will say emphatically I think he's a "diva". At this point with Crabs I don't care that he sits up front in class. I'm not impressed that he appeared in OTA's. In my eyes, for this player, that won't tell me anything about his production on the field. For me, I need to see real consistent excuse free production. Until I see that there's nothing on God's beautiful green earth that'll get me to see Crabs as anything other than a excuse riddled over hyped 1st round diva bust because that, in a nutshell, is what I've seen of him. You are right, he is frekin injured. But that's what he always seem to be about this time of year. And that's what makes it so frustrating to fans.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
. If its that same foot he had surgery on, its an issue. No need to rag on him because of an injury.

you are right. I just get a little frustrated cuz its always something with him. you and others are right when you say we have no clue what it is and how bad it is. cc knee jerk reaction

All good. We are on a super bowl run. Every little thing is going to be frustrating this year lol. At least he comes out when it counts and plays tough. He is an underrated blocker. He has probably played through the pain during the year.

Cannot agree with the bold. I'm not ragging on him for THIS injury. But there always seem to be something with Crabs, you have to agree with that. The reaction to Crabs latest injury is knee-jerk. But given Crabs history with this team could you really blame fans for having the here-we-go-again reaction? At what point can his durability be questioned? At what point can we as fans begin to call him a bust? At what point can we begin to question his commitment? At what point do "reasons" become "excuses"?

Yeah there is always somthing with his Crabs. Most of the time, its his foot. Seems like a nagging chronic condition. Its safe to assume that it effects him even during the season. But he still comes out and plays.

I don't blame fans for having the reaction. But like you said, its a knee jerk reaction indeed. Its pretty safe to question his durability and call him a bust, but the comments here say more then that.

"suspicious injuries"
"diva"
"milking the injuries"
"doesn't like practicing"

Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I see your point there. I haven't questioned if he really was injured or milking it. His commitment? Yes! His injuries? Not at all. But I don't tie his commitment to his injuries. Although I will say emphatically I think he's a "diva". At this point with Crabs I don't care that he sits up front in class. I'm not impressed that he appeared in OTA's. In my eyes, for this player, that won't tell me anything about his production on the field. For me, I need to see real consistent excuse free production. Until I see that there's nothing on God's beautiful green earth that'll get me to see Crabs as anything other than a excuse riddled over hyped 1st round diva bust because that, in a nutshell, is what I've seen of him. You are right, he is frekin injured. But that's what he always seem to be about this time of year. And that's what makes it so frustrating to fans.

Yeah i know it wasn't you. Other posters have though. One guy said Crabtree fakes the injuries, even though he has had surgical procedures done after the injury occurred.

I'm glad you brought up his commitment. Its possible that these injuries occur right at the beggining of training camp because his off season work ethic isn't good. Lots of players get hurt the first couple of practices because they haven't prepared themselves for the rigors of training camp.

I saw him in Mexico partying during the minnicamps. He had a drink in his hand pretty much every time i saw him, which was practically everywhere. He missed a few practices i think as a result. Who knows how he keeps himself in shape in the offseason.

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

I agree with the previous posters that this is all just a bit of an understandable knee-jerk reaction. I think Crabtree will be on the field today, but if he's not, that says a lot IMO.

If he doesn't practice then that gives more reps to moss, Jenkins, and Mario.

We all know what crabs can do , let the other guys get reps

Crabtree needs the reps as much as anyone. Him and Smith have never had a good connection.

I meant we all know what crabs can do which is miss preseason games and practice injured or not....yes he does need reps but that doesn't seem to happen

Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:
Idaho,

Shake it off, man. You let your guard down and got sucker punched by a sophist, you're not the first. No big deal.

That doesn't mean you're wrong, though. Without resorting to sophistry, it's hard to claim Crabtree is anything other than a goldbricker. We've seen this before and we're seeing it again. He's going to ride this excuse for however long it will take him and his fans will ride the bomb, too.

The key point is this: Crabtree has skills, but no killer instinct. He's great for your Madden team or your Sabremetrics, but absolute crap for your NFL team when it really matters. The fact that Crabtree is, at best, in the periphery of the discussion when we discuss our dagger-in-the-heart weapons says all we need to say about Crabtree.

Until he proves otherwise--which seems increasingly unlikely--he's a four-years-into-the-league question mark. At the wide-out position, that's pitiful. Only RBs have an easier job of making a personal impact upon a team, if we wish to talk Sabermetrics. Meanwhile, you have guys like Iupati, Davis, Bowman and A. Smith that are changing the face of this team. In Crabtree's corner, you have a pile of excuses and stats...and a growing pile of dust. He's fast becoming yesterday's news, although his supporters don't seem to see it that way.

well, he's been our leading WR...I cant blame crab or any other WR for not meeting your expectations. but we have a guy that throws 17 tds in 16 games, Key point: we have a game manager as a QB, nothing we can do, thats just another bomb story

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I understand your point. I pretty much feel the same way with my optimistic side. But the cynic in me seems to remember he was injured the first day of camp Alex also and wasn't there the rest of the way...

This year if he is faking it, we have better WRs to push him down the depth chart

Faking it? You know he had surgery to repair a fracture in his foot last year.

That is going to extreme lengths to fake it. I wonder what he paid Dr. Nick to do a bogus surgery.

Faking it, injured, dog died what ever it is he' not there and we have a lot more horses in the stable so can fall in the depth chart

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I understand your point. I pretty much feel the same way with my optimistic side. But the cynic in me seems to remember he was injured the first day of camp Alex also and wasn't there the rest of the way...

This year if he is faking it, we have better WRs to push him down the depth chart

Faking it? You know he had surgery to repair a fracture in his foot last year.

That is going to extreme lengths to fake it. I wonder what he paid Dr. Nick to do a bogus surgery.

Faking it, injured, dog died what ever it is he' not there and we have a lot more horses in the stable so can fall in the depth chart

Yeah. He'll be back in no time to continue as #1.

I don't think Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, KW or anyone will unseat him.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I understand your point. I pretty much feel the same way with my optimistic side. But the cynic in me seems to remember he was injured the first day of camp Alex also and wasn't there the rest of the way...

This year if he is faking it, we have better WRs to push him down the depth chart

Faking it? You know he had surgery to repair a fracture in his foot last year.

That is going to extreme lengths to fake it. I wonder what he paid Dr. Nick to do a bogus surgery.

Faking it, injured, dog died what ever it is he' not there and we have a lot more horses in the stable so can fall in the depth chart

Yeah. He'll be back in no time to continue as #1.

I don't think Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, KW or anyone will unseat him.

If he comes back soon yeah #1, misses 4 games and still # 1 will not look good with players that are there busting their butts

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Come on now. He's frekin injured. He went to camp Smith, has been participating in almost all OTAs this year, sits up front at the meetings with moss etc...

I understand your point. I pretty much feel the same way with my optimistic side. But the cynic in me seems to remember he was injured the first day of camp Alex also and wasn't there the rest of the way...

This year if he is faking it, we have better WRs to push him down the depth chart

Faking it? You know he had surgery to repair a fracture in his foot last year.

That is going to extreme lengths to fake it. I wonder what he paid Dr. Nick to do a bogus surgery.

Faking it, injured, dog died what ever it is he' not there and we have a lot more horses in the stable so can fall in the depth chart

Yeah. He'll be back in no time to continue as #1.

I don't think Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, KW or anyone will unseat him.

If he comes back soon yeah #1, misses 4 games and still # 1 will not look good with players that are there busting their butts

Not if he is coming off an injury.

I must be overrating Moss, compared to some of you. I just see him as superior to any of our receivers. So, to see people suggesting that Crabtree is or will be the # 1 surprises me a bit.

( not that our team is really looking at this whole rating system, I recognize that )

Get well soon, Mike.