Player discontent brewing

terrible thread. lock it.

Didnt he piss on Steve Young's car, or so the story goes?

Originally posted by FacePalm:
Didnt he piss on Steve Young's car, or so the story goes?

Pissed on Siefert's car.

I think the most embarrassing part of the loss, was that JOHN FU!@ing Skelton looked like a pro bowler!

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
I think the most embarrassing part of the loss, was that JOHN FU!@ing Skelton looked like a pro bowler!

No, he didn't. His WRs looked great on 3 plays, and he had 2 scrambles. That does not make a Pro Bowl QB.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Charles Haley never got frustrated. The bar is high my friends. This is a good thing and they will come into MNF hungry.

Then why did he piss on a dude's car in the parking lot?

He was kind of weird. Be like having Valrod playing for your football team. Great player, but .....

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
I think the most embarrassing part of the loss, was that JOHN FU!@ing Skelton looked like a pro bowler!

No, he didn't. His WRs looked great on 3 plays, and he had 2 scrambles. That does not make a Pro Bowl QB.

Agreed. His stats looked OK, but Skelton didn't do much to distinguish himself IMO.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Charles Haley never got frustrated. The bar is high my friends. This is a good thing and they will come into MNF hungry.

Then why did he piss on a dude's car in the parking lot?

He was kind of weird. Be like having Valrod playing for your football team. Great player, but .....

Weird but not frustrated... got it.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
What is concerning me is the amount of frustration and discontent that seems to be brewing.

VD is frustrated

Crabtree is frustrated

Gore is frustrated - although that is probably more so about his injury

Braylon is highly discontent with his role.

I'd bet the defense is a bit frustrated with the anemic RZ scoring after they deliver short fields.

Now the question is -- is that frustration starting to focus on ASmith not getting the ball to players, which might happen regardless of how the OL is playing. Receivers might not sympathize with the QB being under pressure, they just fee like, "well, if you're under pressur, just throw me the darn ball."

Or is the frustration about the play calling and scheme -- in other words, toward the coaches? You can tell that Gore, VD, and some lineman really supported ASmith after his/their time under Sing and Nolan. They may want the coaches to "let Smith wing it more" instead of being so cautious. But caution is probably as much a Smith trait as the coaches.

The coaches need to get this in check ASAP. With a recent history of losing and frustration, it doesn't take much for old feelings to resurface.

Horses**t. They have a little red ass after a disappointing loss. That's fine. After a 10 win season and the division title are already in the bag, if there's discontent with personal stats then those players can feel free to f**k off.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Horses**t. They have a little red ass after a disappointing loss. That's fine. After a 10 win season and the division title are already in the bag, if there's discontent with personal stats then those players can feel free to f**k off.

Personal stats?

You don;t see these guys complaining when they only get targeted 2 or 3 times in a win. Only now are they pissed off because they could've helped our team win the game, but didn't get that chance to.

Originally posted by Baugh_Area:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Horses**t. They have a little red ass after a disappointing loss. That's fine. After a 10 win season and the division title are already in the bag, if there's discontent with personal stats then those players can feel free to f**k off.

Personal stats?

You don;t see these guys complaining when they only get targeted 2 or 3 times in a win. Only now are they pissed off because they could've helped our team win the game, but didn't get that chance to.

These are games where we just need to force the ball to our leaders and jump on their backs. If they get us out of the rutt, then great, that's what they are supposed to do. If they don't get us out of the rutt, well, they are our best players so it's better to go down with them than not give them a chance at all.

Jerry Rice was not so nice in losses where he wasn't given more chances to help the team. It's also on the Point person, Alex to figure that out.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
What is concerning me is the amount of frustration and discontent that seems to be brewing.

VD is frustrated

Crabtree is frustrated

Gore is frustrated - although that is probably more so about his injury

Braylon is highly discontent with his role.

I'd bet the defense is a bit frustrated with the anemic RZ scoring after they deliver short fields.

Now the question is -- is that frustration starting to focus on ASmith not getting the ball to players, which might happen regardless of how the OL is playing. Receivers might not sympathize with the QB being under pressure, they just fee like, "well, if you're under pressur, just throw me the darn ball."

Or is the frustration about the play calling and scheme -- in other words, toward the coaches? You can tell that Gore, VD, and some lineman really supported ASmith after his/their time under Sing and Nolan. They may want the coaches to "let Smith wing it more" instead of being so cautious. But caution is probably as much a Smith trait as the coaches.

The coaches need to get this in check ASAP. With a recent history of losing and frustration, it doesn't take much for old feelings to resurface.

Link?

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Lol player discontent? Stop overreacting.

They're frustrated they lost a game they should have won. And they should be.

Ought to have locked the thread after this one. The end.

Originally posted by HessianDud:
hopefully losing like that to a crappy team will be the catalyst we need to hit the next gear.

I don't think the Cards are that crappy right now. They just beat the Cowboys and the Niners. Their defense was tough. We just got killed giving up the two big passes, and the lack of production in the red zone, of course. I'm guessing this is a coaching/play selection issue because as awful as the Niners used to be, the one area they shined was red zone proficiency. That was Alex Smith's strong suit. The injuries to Morgan and Edwards are hurting us.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
What is concerning me is the amount of frustration and discontent that seems to be brewing.

VD is frustrated

Crabtree is frustrated

Gore is frustrated - although that is probably more so about his injury

Braylon is highly discontent with his role.

I'd bet the defense is a bit frustrated with the anemic RZ scoring after they deliver short fields.

Now the question is -- is that frustration starting to focus on ASmith not getting the ball to players, which might happen regardless of how the OL is playing. Receivers might not sympathize with the QB being under pressure, they just fee like, "well, if you're under pressur, just throw me the darn ball."

Or is the frustration about the play calling and scheme -- in other words, toward the coaches? You can tell that Gore, VD, and some lineman really supported ASmith after his/their time under Sing and Nolan. They may want the coaches to "let Smith wing it more" instead of being so cautious. But caution is probably as much a Smith trait as the coaches.

The coaches need to get this in check ASAP. With a recent history of losing and frustration, it doesn't take much for old feelings to resurface.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7347693/if-49ers-continue-struggle-red-zone-deep-playoff-run-likely-nfl

Read espn's piece on our redzone issues. They suggest running less and letting Alex throw more, we run 55% of the time in the RZ only the texans and raiders, who easily have better running game run the ball more often and if we run we need to use Hunter more often.

They also point out how much of a beast VD was in the RZ the two previous seasons but he now has the least amount of RZ targets on the team but has accounted for 3 TD on 5 of targets(caught all 5) while the rest of the WRs/TEs are responsible for only 2 TD on more then 5 targets each. I think Crabtree and KW are responsible for those and KW's score happened in week 2.....That's just 1 RZ TD by someone not named Vernon Davis in over 3 months.....

The play calling and inability to block well is what's killing us in the RZ. That's not a bombshell and everyone should just accept it now. If we spread the ball out more and give KH some space out of the backfield we'd probably be killing everyone in the RZ and not to make the comparison lightly but the play calling in the RZ is a lot like Singletary's pound in up the gut that kept getting stuffed. Harbaugh and Roman really need to diversify our RZ offense or we'll be a 1 and done in the playoffs.

Also I just re-read your post and it's sad that you're already reverting to hating on Alex. He's been incredibly confident in his throwing, as my lovely stat from above provides it's the receivers that aren't making catches. Alex's home away from home is the RZ, he's statistically and poise-wise the second best RZ QB behind Aaron Rodgers. Remember a couple of weeks ago when the announcers pretty much jinxed AS and said "NO INTERCEPTIONS IN THE RZ IN OVER X AMOUNT OF THROWS" then he throws the pick. If I'm not mistaken that was something like his 5 pick in the RZ and at the beginning of the season 35 or so of his TDs came in the RZ which left 15 or so TDs and 40 or INTs that happened from plays outside the RZ.......

Did I miss anything? /Thread