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Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9

Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:

completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0

Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).

Makes you wonder where we'd be had we brought in a guy like Johnson years ago and Alex and co had the same guy from day one. Oh wait...too much competency and preparation.

Anyway...nice find.
I'm torn. No one has been a bigger supporter of Mike Johnson than me, but it's hard to say. Obviously he has been handcuffed by Mike Singletary to some extent, it's difficult to say how much? I think we can all agree that we all want an offensive-minded Head Coach next year. It's up to him if Johnson is retained.

Doesn't Mike Johnson have some experience with the West Coast Offense?
Keep all the same coaches. We can never progress by changing them every year.
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Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm torn. No one has been a bigger supporter of Mike Johnson than me, but it's hard to say. Obviously he has been handcuffed by Mike Singletary to some extent, it's difficult to say how much? I think we can all agree that we all want an offensive-minded Head Coach next year. It's up to him if Johnson is retained.

Doesn't Mike Johnson have some experience with the West Coast Offense?

If I remember right....I read that his discipline is a spread. I would like toknow if MJ is doing his thing or stuff from Raye's playbook.
Also, keep in mind that he is still working from Jimmy Raye's playbook! There's no telling what changes and adjustments he could make with a full offseason to work with?

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Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9

Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:

completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0

Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).
Though data, as we all know, doesn't always tell the whole story, it is useful. In this case, it clearly shows that MJ has had a positive impact on the offense.

Yesterday, until the second half, we saw for the first time what MJ is able to construct as an OC. He was able to open up the entire playbook with no restrictions and the results speak for themselves.

So I am in the group that says I need to see some more but what we have seen so far from Johnson has been very good given the fact that Singletary has surely placed some restrictions on him.

BTW, with a QB rating of 92, Alex Smith would be in the top 10 QBs in the league.
If we get a legit offensive-minded HC (Gruden, Holmgrem, Harbaugh, Billick etc.), I'd be happy with whatever he wants to do about OC's.

Johnson has done some good things, but not enough that I'd want to force our new HC to keep him as an OC.
130 rating in yesterday's game but he didn't look like he played to that rating. There were a lot of plays he would wish he had back. He and the offense needs to improve to keep up with San Diego.
Originally posted by 9inermaniac:
Keep all the same coaches. We can never progress by changing them every year.



First of all, there is only 1 Niner Maniac (it's not you)







So far as the coaches go, fire them all. One wipeout of a pathetic defense doesnt erase a season of misguided offense. Do I need to remind you of Weeks 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, and 13?
Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9

Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:

completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0

Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).

Originally posted by bracus:
Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9

Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:

completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0

Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).


u shudnt show blind hatred look at the stats 92 rating since MJ has been gone that is very respectable
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9

Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:

completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0

Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).
Though data, as we all know, doesn't always tell the whole story, it is useful. In this case, it clearly shows that MJ has had a positive impact on the offense.

Yesterday, until the second half, we saw for the first time what MJ is able to construct as an OC. He was able to open up the entire playbook with no restrictions and the results speak for themselves.

So I am in the group that says I need to see some more but what we have seen so far from Johnson has been very good given the fact that Singletary has surely placed some restrictions on him.

BTW, with a QB rating of 92, Alex Smith would be in the top 10 QBs in the league.

wow... thats some interesting stuff. I agree I would like to see what he can do given free reign to run the offense how he see's fit. I think Sing has loosened up a little bit... only because of Gore's inj and his job is on the line, but I think MJ still has that feeling of someone watching his every move.

It will be interesting to see how the offense and AS play to finish out the season.
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No, I want the new head coach to name his own staff.
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Originally posted by mayo49:
No, I want the new head coach to name his own staff.

...but would you be OK if he named MJ based on what you have seen to date?
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by mayo49:
No, I want the new head coach to name his own staff.

...but would you be OK if he named MJ based on what you have seen to date?

I would not be apposed to that.
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