Depends on the head coach.. If it's a defensive minded (or lack there of) coach like Sing.. i would say no.. because you would need someone who trully knows their X's and O's.. If its someone like Gruden.. i would say yes.. Gruden would ultimately have the last say but a better coaching staff would help him out..
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Do you want to keep Michael Johnson as an OC next season?
Do you want to keep Michael Johnson as an OC next season?
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM
- Delinquentwayz
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Dec 13, 2010 at 9:39 AM
- PowderdToastMn
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I think the consensus is that most fans want an offensive-minded head coach next season. After that, I think most people want to run the West Coash Offense. If that is the case, then I dont know if Mike Johnson is the OC you would look for. I am not too familiar with his background, but his offensive style does not really resemble the WCO.
If for some reason, Singletary stays as head coach, I would like to see a 2nd year from Johnson as OC. It all depends on the head coaching situation in the offseason.
If for some reason, Singletary stays as head coach, I would like to see a 2nd year from Johnson as OC. It all depends on the head coaching situation in the offseason.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:40 AM
- MntIdaGold
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I agree with your reasoning on why he should be kept, but I think this is the same path that has gotten this organization in trouble. The team needs a structural rebuild and it must start from the top down. Starting with a new GM and so on. If the new HC wants him then that is fine by me.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:49 AM
- verb1der
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If the Niners win out, and make the playoffs, then I will click YES.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:50 AM
- 49ersswagger
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If mike singletary stays so should mike johnson he called great game yesterday but too many run up middle for no yards if he wins last three games and makes playoffs that buys him another year as OC. Because Singletary couldnt really recruit quality OC before and we had to settle for Jimmy Raye with horrible offense he is much better than Jimmy Raye thats the biggest endorsement I can give him. I know if Singletary goes I dont think new coach will keep him he would want to bring in his own OC
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:51 AM
- qnnhan7
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I'm a bit of a bind with Mike Johnson. I think he's very capable, doing a good job considering the circumstances of this season. In another year or two he would be a very good OC. But it seems this whole team from management to coaches and players are 'learning on the job'. I can't handle another year of this. I want more experience from top to bottom. It's bad enough that we have young some inexperience players trying to play as a team, it's another added hurtle when management and coaches are inexperience also.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:52 AM
- susweel
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NOPE
Raye Jr needs to go along with the rest of them.
Raye Jr needs to go along with the rest of them.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM
- Method
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Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9
Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:
completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0
Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9
Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:
completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0
Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).
[ Edited by Method on Dec 13, 2010 at 9:54 AM ]
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:54 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by MntIdaGold:
I agree with your reasoning on why he should be kept, but I think this is the same path that has gotten this organization in trouble. The team needs a structural rebuild and it must start from the top down. Starting with a new GM and so on. If the new HC wants him then that is fine by me.
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:55 AM
- SJniner7
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I will give him a break that he is likely still using Raye's playbook. However, his lack of adjustments as shown by our lack of scoring in the 2nd and 3rd quarter is embarassing. That being said, I don't think he needs to be our OC next season, regardless of who is the HC...
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:59 AM
- qnnhan7
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The Oline play in the first half of the season was totally inconsistent to put it mildly. I'm still not sure about that unit right now. It affects to some extent this offense with the inconsistent play.
Dec 13, 2010 at 10:05 AM
- 76Razor
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Originally posted by Method:
Here's Alex Smith's QB Ratings this season:
@Seattle - 52.5
New Orleans- 82.2
@Kansas City- 68.8
@Atlanta- 65.6
Philadelphia- 92.8
Oakland- 87.4
@Carolina- 87.4
Seattle- 130.9
Take out the first three games with Jimmy Raye as the O.C, and here's his new QB Rating:
completion %: 58.667 (88/150)
yards: 1077
yards/attempt: 7.18
TD: 10
INT: 4
QBR: 92.0
Even if we get rid of Alex, I hope we keep MJ who's able to help his quarterback; and definitely has one of the best first drive pre-planned playcalls of any OC we've had in years. We're consistently scoring on the first drive and this helps us out throughout the game (unless Sing goes on his conservative bulls**t).
good stuff. thanks for digging that all up. i would be willing to have him back, as long as we get an offensive HC.
Dec 13, 2010 at 10:09 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by Delinquentwayz:
Depends on the head coach.. If it's a defensive minded (or lack there of) coach like Sing.. i would say no.. because you would need someone who trully knows their X's and O's.. If its someone like Gruden.. i would say yes.. Gruden would ultimately have the last say but a better coaching staff would help him out..
-DW
didn't have to look far to find my answer... THIS ^
Dec 13, 2010 at 10:10 AM
- LasVegasWally
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Hard to say. How much has he been micro-managed by Sing and what can he really do if left to his own skill-sets?
We did well against a weak team. We haven't beaten anyone w/ a winning record and we flat out suck on the road.
Let's see what his game plan is on Thursday against a winning team. Hopefully we can see more of what he can offer.
We did well against a weak team. We haven't beaten anyone w/ a winning record and we flat out suck on the road.
Let's see what his game plan is on Thursday against a winning team. Hopefully we can see more of what he can offer.