Yahoo ranks our WR core 15th in the league

It's Wide Receiver corps, not Wide Receiver core. They are homophones.

Core means the starting two? Because depth wise, we really have 8 above average talented players. If you go across the board team for team, match their depth up with our depth. We rank higher this season.

Help me. Name 5 teams that have better 3rd, 4th, and 5th slot wr, and 2nd string TE, and M.Rob catching out the back field.

Now on this list, Philly and SD are a little to high with the loss of McNabb and LT. Defenses will be expecting less things facing these teams.

Cinn and NE are a little to low. We all know how good AB is and what he could bring to a team. Brady to Moss! Need I say more about these 2. Any slot WR will be a Wes Welker type...And don't sleep on a 'Fit' OG in Holt.

Originally posted by TFSP:
Help me. Name 5 teams that have better 3rd, 4th, and 5th slot wr, and 2nd string TE, and M.Rob catching out the back field.

Indianapolis
Green Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Detroit
Philadelphia
San Diego

Our depth isn't as good as you guys may think. There is a lot that is still unproven with what we have. It may look good on paper in some eyes but on paper and actual production are 2 different things.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by TFSP:
Help me. Name 5 teams that have better 3rd, 4th, and 5th slot wr, and 2nd string TE, and M.Rob catching out the back field.

Indianapolis
Green Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Detroit
Philadelphia
San Diego

Our depth isn't as good as you guys may think. There is a lot that is still unproven with what we have. It may look good on paper in some eyes but on paper and actual production are 2 different things.

Philly, Det, and SD has better 8 guys then we do?

Please explain....

Originally posted by TFSP:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by TFSP:
Help me. Name 5 teams that have better 3rd, 4th, and 5th slot wr, and 2nd string TE, and M.Rob catching out the back field.

Indianapolis
Green Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Detroit
Philadelphia
San Diego

Our depth isn't as good as you guys may think. There is a lot that is still unproven with what we have. It may look good on paper in some eyes but on paper and actual production are 2 different things.

Philly, Det, and SD has better 8 guys then we do?

Please explain....

It's self explanatory. Ted Ginn has a lot to prove and Delanie Walker is not as good as most make him out to be. Again with our WR's it's all good on paper but consistency is a whole other ballgame.

Detroit added a very good TE to pair with Pettigrew and a #2 WR who was better than our #2, pushing Bryant Johnson back to a slot role. Philly brought back Baskett who plays well in there system plus they have Avant as the # 3. SD has no worries about losing LT as far as the passing game goes, Sproles took over that role. Malcom Floyd stepped up, Naanee is a solid role player and they have former 1st rounder Buster Davis as the #4.

Tell me what Jason Hill and Brandon Jones have shown that makes them such great options ? The inability to get themselves on the field ? The ability to be injury prone/always nicked or dinged up or have hampering groin injuries ?

For all of you folks with blinders that say that "CJ is either no good" or "washed up",
I think you should heed the words of my DI from boot camp. Tell the troops what you are, "Sir, I'm ate up with f***ing dumb".

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by TFSP:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by TFSP:
Help me. Name 5 teams that have better 3rd, 4th, and 5th slot wr, and 2nd string TE, and M.Rob catching out the back field.

Indianapolis
Green Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Detroit
Philadelphia
San Diego

Our depth isn't as good as you guys may think. There is a lot that is still unproven with what we have. It may look good on paper in some eyes but on paper and actual production are 2 different things.

Philly, Det, and SD has better 8 guys then we do?

Please explain....

It's self explanatory. Ted Ginn has a lot to prove and Delanie Walker is not as good as most make him out to be. Again with our WR's it's all good on paper but consistency is a whole other ballgame.

Detroit added a very good TE to pair with Pettigrew and a #2 WR who was better than our #2, pushing Bryant Johnson back to a slot role. Philly brought back Baskett who plays well in there system plus they have Avant as the # 3. SD has no worries about losing LT as far as the passing game goes, Sproles took over that role. Malcom Floyd stepped up, Naanee is a solid role player and they have former 1st rounder Buster Davis as the #4.

Tell me what Jason Hill and Brandon Jones have shown that makes them such great options ? The inability to get themselves on the field ? The ability to be injury prone/always nicked or dinged up or have hampering groin injuries ?

Hold up. About our wrs, we've seen them all play with a under avg to avg QB and under avg to avg O-line. You put Crabs, VD, Josh M, Gore, D Walk, Hill, MRob and BJ on Philly or SD of last year, they'd be putting up crazy numbers also. Those teams o-lines would allow the play to develop.

Det looks good on paper. Period.

McNabb makes every wr look better than they really are, because of the o-line and the system.

As well as SD's o-line makes their passing attack look good and Rivers. Yes Sproles is raw, but you watch, he'll get more touches with the ball this year, and we will see him take more punishment, which leads to injury. Period.

So you think if you take our weapons and trade them to SD for theirs, they wouldn't do better?

Not a big deal. Their ranked 15th based on last year's numbers and the experts projection.

IMO, once Alex starts connecting with his WRs the numbers will increase and the whole offense will rise in the rankings.......

Not much to argue with. We could use another WR. Great improvement over where it was a couple of years ago though.

It's been 7 years since this team has had a 1,000 yard reciever. I think 15 is generous and is based soley on potential... because NOBODY on this roster has done anything to prove that they are an elite pass catcher. Davis is close, but come on... one year?

When the season starts there will be ZERO players who have had 1,000 yards in any season. Potentially this could be one of the best WR corps in the league... but if you look at the numbers this group is not elite. Best single season of any pass catcher - 78 rec 965 yards 13 tds.

Do these #'s (rounded up) per season impress you?

#1 WR - 48 rec 625 yards 2 tds (crabtree 1 yr)
#2 WR - 42 rec 555 yards 2 tds (morgan 3 yrs)
#1 TE - 46 rec 525 yards 6 tds (davis 4 yrs)
#3 WR - 43 rec 555 yards 2 tds (ginn 3 yrs)
#4 WR - 23 rec 280 yards 2 tds (jones 5 yrs)
#5 WR - 14 rec 138 yards 2 tds (hill 3 yrs)
#2 TE - 14 rec 148 yards .5 tds (walker 4 yrs)

Totals - 230 rec 2826 yards 16.5 tds... you wanna be the QB with those numbers?

Originally posted by Pick6:
It's been 7 years since this team has had a 1,000 yard reciever. I think 15 is generous and is based soley on potential... because NOBODY on this roster has done anything to prove that they are an elite pass catcher. Davis is close, but come on... one year?

When the season starts there will be ZERO players who have had 1,000 yards in any season. Potentially this could be one of the best WR corps in the league... but if you look at the numbers this group is not elite. Best single season of any pass catcher - 78 rec 965 yards 13 tds.

Do these #'s (rounded up) per season impress you?

#1 WR - 48 rec 625 yards 2 tds (crabtree 1 yr)
#2 WR - 42 rec 555 yards 2 tds (morgan 3 yrs)
#1 TE - 46 rec 525 yards 6 tds (davis 4 yrs)
#3 WR - 43 rec 555 yards 2 tds (ginn 3 yrs)
#4 WR - 23 rec 280 yards 2 tds (jones 5 yrs)
#5 WR - 14 rec 138 yards 2 tds (hill 3 yrs)
#2 TE - 14 rec 148 yards .5 tds (walker 4 yrs)

Totals - 230 rec 2826 yards 16.5 tds... you wanna be the QB with those numbers?

Let me make some additions

#1 WR - 48 rec 635 yards 2 tds - Missed the first 5 games, wasn't here for OTA's, training camp or preseason as well. (Point being, had Crabtree started every game and been there for the offseason he would have had probably about 950-1000 yards and maybe 3-4 tds)

#1 TE - 78 rec 965 yards and 13 tds, why discount Vernons best and obviously most recent season again?

I kinda get your argument, however Vernon was a top 3 TE last year, Crabtree looked really good, and Morgan will get better, adding a deep threat in Ginn (who i believe had a 750-800 yard season in his 2nd year) as the #3

Originally posted by Pick6:
It's been 7 years since this team has had a 1,000 yard reciever. I think 15 is generous and is based soley on potential... because NOBODY on this roster has done anything to prove that they are an elite pass catcher. Davis is close, but come on... one year?

When the season starts there will be ZERO players who have had 1,000 yards in any season. Potentially this could be one of the best WR corps in the league... but if you look at the numbers this group is not elite. Best single season of any pass catcher - 78 rec 965 yards 13 tds.

Do these #'s (rounded up) per season impress you?

#1 WR - 48 rec 625 yards 2 tds (crabtree 1 yr)
#2 WR - 42 rec 555 yards 2 tds (morgan 3 yrs)
#1 TE - 46 rec 525 yards 6 tds (davis 4 yrs)
#3 WR - 43 rec 555 yards 2 tds (ginn 3 yrs)
#4 WR - 23 rec 280 yards 2 tds (jones 5 yrs)
#5 WR - 14 rec 138 yards 2 tds (hill 3 yrs)
#2 TE - 14 rec 148 yards .5 tds (walker 4 yrs)

Totals - 230 rec 2826 yards 16.5 tds... you wanna be the QB with those numbers?

I agree with your point. I think our core pass catchers (Davis and Crabtree) will be special. However the other guys in the unit will have to prove that they can produce to their potential before anyone will elevate our corps to above average status.

Also I don't think it's necessary for everyone who wears a jersey in the 80's or teens to be phenomenal. The 5th and maybe the 4th receiver on most teams, especially ours, are not gonna see much action except on special teams. If two more of our receivers really step it up then we'll be undeniably marching toward elite statues at the position.

[ Edited by LAFortyNinerfan on May 10, 2010 at 14:37:11 ]

I hate when people bring up Davis when talking about our WR corps! Vernon Davis is NOT a WR. Fifteenth is pretty friggin generous when all we have is Crabtree, who himself hasn't even proven anything yet. Don't get me started on any other of the WR's on this team, becaus they're no good. I think this corps is in the mid-20s to be honest, they must have factored in VD to be at 15.

Originally posted by MazDanRX787:
I hate when people bring up Davis when talking about our WR corps! Vernon Davis is NOT a WR. Fifteenth is pretty friggin generous when all we have is Crabtree, who himself hasn't even proven anything yet. Don't get me started on any other of the WR's on this team, becaus they're no good. I think this corps is in the mid-20s to be honest, they must have factored in VD to be at 15.

THEY INCLUDED TEs IN THIS RANKING

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by MazDanRX787:
I hate when people bring up Davis when talking about our WR corps! Vernon Davis is NOT a WR. Fifteenth is pretty friggin generous when all we have is Crabtree, who himself hasn't even proven anything yet. Don't get me started on any other of the WR's on this team, becaus they're no good. I think this corps is in the mid-20s to be honest, they must have factored in VD to be at 15.

THEY INCLUDED TEs IN THIS RANKING