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Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:

Oh and by the way, it wasn't an 8-8 record last year. The Rams and Lions games don't count. The team was 6 - 8.


According to 9eridiot we was 6-8! Shouldn't we be 5-8 since we played the rams twice, or did I miss something! 8-8 goniners, now for our 10-6 season or 11-5

Frankie,
When you're out of the playoffs, the season's over. (Usually week 3 or 4 for the Raiders and Lions.)

Everybody's excited about going 8-8. Remember: the Niners were a pathetic 6-8 when knocked out of the playoffs last year. No killer spirit against the Colts and Vikings and got embarassed by the Eagles and Falcons.

What's different this year? Crabtree's older I'll give you that and Brooks is a monster. What else you got?

And how's that going to translate to 10-6 or 11-5?

Well 8-8 was our first non losing season good no! Horrible no! Could be way better! Ya bring up the colts and vikes that we couldn't put em away. This si true! Wit the bite on the run for that hb pass. Yeah that sucked but addai had just pulled off a 7 yrd gain against us! Of course the d was gonna charge addai! And well favre pulled a miracle last second pass to a reciever he didn't even know was on the field. We coulda been 10-6 and made the playoffs but failed to do so. So I can see your dismay in the niners man! But I agree ya can blame luck for your failures.

This upcoming draft and season will show one of 2 things! 1 we have a great draft and get that lineman and gaurd everyones talking bout! The continuity, wit the oc and and the defense kicks in a even higher gear along with the offense and alex tears it up and we make a good run towards the playoffs and make a win or 2 in the playoffs! Now for number 2 our new gm is the next t donahue, he bombs on the dratf, we didn't sign no help in free agency, which means our line doesn't improve! Alex is rushed and doesn't have sufficient time in the pocket! Therefore makes mistakes! Tho he has a better feel with crabs but is forced to throw the ball to early. Our defense gets put on the field for over half of the game and tires out! And becomes a non factor! And we win 6-10 if we are lucky

So maybe all the cards fall rite and we make the playoffs and are one and done! How would ya feel about that would ya see that as an improvement or would ya still be sayinhg but but but the rams, but but but the lions! But but but the raiders!

We aint the rams, we aint the lions, we most definately aint the f**king raiders man! And by your we should be 6-8 this year your math just don't add up! We played the rams twice, they are in the nfc west! So we woulda been 5-8 but as fate has had it correct me if I'm wrong our record at the end of the season was 8-8! Last I checked that's at exactly .500. We didn't win the vikes and colts game but almost did. There are improvements since singltary took over, if ya don't wanna recognise the improvements then hey man that's on you. I respect your opinions! I don't give a flying f**k if ya respect mine.

Now this time next year we can come back to crabtrees one year older! And actually haveing time to practice during the offseason. Look what he did wit next to no time with the team due to the hold out and to do as well as he did. Just imagine if he had signed from day one. f**king deion and mc hammer!
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Great stuff, 9erHIGH.

I did game breakdowns that were something like this throughout the season. It's very cool (and frustrating) to analyze the little things that get missed by the casual fans. Keep up the good work, and just know that a select number of these fan responses will always be filled with hate for Alex Smith. Their feet are simply dug in way too deep at this point to ever change their tune. Don't let them to distract you.

this
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:

Oh and by the way, it wasn't an 8-8 record last year. The Rams and Lions games don't count. The team was 6 - 8.


According to 9eridiot we was 6-8! Shouldn't we be 5-8 since we played the rams twice, or did I miss something! 8-8 goniners, now for our 10-6 season or 11-5

Frankie,
When you're out of the playoffs, the season's over. (Usually week 3 or 4 for the Raiders and Lions.)

Everybody's excited about going 8-8. Remember: the Niners were a pathetic 6-8 when knocked out of the playoffs last year. No killer spirit against the Colts and Vikings and got embarassed by the Eagles and Falcons.

What's different this year? Crabtree's older I'll give you that and Brooks is a monster. What else you got?

And how's that going to translate to 10-6 or 11-5?

Well 8-8 was our first non losing season good no! Horrible no! Could be way better! Ya bring up the colts and vikes that we couldn't put em away. This si true! Wit the bite on the run for that hb pass. Yeah that sucked but addai had just pulled off a 7 yrd gain against us! Of course the d was gonna charge addai! And well favre pulled a miracle last second pass to a reciever he didn't even know was on the field. We coulda been 10-6 and made the playoffs but failed to do so. So I can see your dismay in the niners man! But I agree ya can blame luck for your failures.

This upcoming draft and season will show one of 2 things! 1 we have a great draft and get that lineman and gaurd everyones talking bout! The continuity, wit the oc and and the defense kicks in a even higher gear along with the offense and alex tears it up and we make a good run towards the playoffs and make a win or 2 in the playoffs! Now for number 2 our new gm is the next t donahue, he bombs on the dratf, we didn't sign no help in free agency, which means our line doesn't improve! Alex is rushed and doesn't have sufficient time in the pocket! Therefore makes mistakes! Tho he has a better feel with crabs but is forced to throw the ball to early. Our defense gets put on the field for over half of the game and tires out! And becomes a non factor! And we win 6-10 if we are lucky

So maybe all the cards fall rite and we make the playoffs and are one and done! How would ya feel about that would ya see that as an improvement or would ya still be sayinhg but but but the rams, but but but the lions! But but but the raiders!

We aint the rams, we aint the lions, we most definately aint the f**king raiders man! And by your we should be 6-8 this year your math just don't add up! We played the rams twice, they are in the nfc west! So we woulda been 5-8 but as fate has had it correct me if I'm wrong our record at the end of the season was 8-8! Last I checked that's at exactly .500. We didn't win the vikes and colts game but almost did. There are improvements since singltary took over, if ya don't wanna recognise the improvements then hey man that's on you. I respect your opinions! I don't give a flying f**k if ya respect mine.

Now this time next year we can come back to crabtrees one year older! And actually haveing time to practice during the offseason. Look what he did wit next to no time with the team due to the hold out and to do as well as he did. Just imagine if he had signed from day one. f**king deion and mc hammer!

Lol if I came accross as a dick my bad I'm not lol!
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Great stuff, 9erHIGH.

I did game breakdowns that were something like this throughout the season. It's very cool (and frustrating) to analyze the little things that get missed by the casual fans. Keep up the good work, and just know that a select number of these fan responses will always be filled with hate for Alex Smith. Their feet are simply dug in way too deep at this point to ever change their tune. Don't let them to distract you.

this

thanks guys! i appreciate that. i just wanna talk football every once in a while with knowledgable fans who care about the intricacies of the game. its reassuring to know there are some out there. AND FOR YOU GUYS... EAGLES GAME IN 3 DAYS... or so
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Great stuff, 9erHIGH.

I did game breakdowns that were something like this throughout the season. It's very cool (and frustrating) to analyze the little things that get missed by the casual fans. Keep up the good work, and just know that a select number of these fan responses will always be filled with hate for Alex Smith. Their feet are simply dug in way too deep at this point to ever change their tune. Don't let them to distract you.

this

thanks guys! i appreciate that. i just wanna talk football every once in a while with knowledgable fans who care about the intricacies of the game. its reassuring to know there are some out there. AND FOR YOU GUYS... EAGLES GAME IN 3 DAYS... or so

looking forward to it.
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:

Oh and by the way, it wasn't an 8-8 record last year. The Rams and Lions games don't count. The team was 6 - 8.


According to 9eridiot we was 6-8! Shouldn't we be 5-8 since we played the rams twice, or did I miss something! 8-8 goniners, now for our 10-6 season or 11-5

Frankie,
When you're out of the playoffs, the season's over. (Usually week 3 or 4 for the Raiders and Lions.)

Everybody's excited about going 8-8. Remember: the Niners were a pathetic 6-8 when knocked out of the playoffs last year. No killer spirit against the Colts and Vikings and got embarassed by the Eagles and Falcons.

What's different this year? Crabtree's older I'll give you that and Brooks is a monster. What else you got?

And how's that going to translate to 10-6 or 11-5?

Well 8-8 was our first non losing season good no! Horrible no! Could be way better! Ya bring up the colts and vikes that we couldn't put em away. This si true! Wit the bite on the run for that hb pass. Yeah that sucked but addai had just pulled off a 7 yrd gain against us! Of course the d was gonna charge addai! And well favre pulled a miracle last second pass to a reciever he didn't even know was on the field. We coulda been 10-6 and made the playoffs but failed to do so. So I can see your dismay in the niners man! But I agree ya can blame luck for your failures.

This upcoming draft and season will show one of 2 things! 1 we have a great draft and get that lineman and gaurd everyones talking bout! The continuity, wit the oc and and the defense kicks in a even higher gear along with the offense and alex tears it up and we make a good run towards the playoffs and make a win or 2 in the playoffs! Now for number 2 our new gm is the next t donahue, he bombs on the dratf, we didn't sign no help in free agency, which means our line doesn't improve! Alex is rushed and doesn't have sufficient time in the pocket! Therefore makes mistakes! Tho he has a better feel with crabs but is forced to throw the ball to early. Our defense gets put on the field for over half of the game and tires out! And becomes a non factor! And we win 6-10 if we are lucky

So maybe all the cards fall rite and we make the playoffs and are one and done! How would ya feel about that would ya see that as an improvement or would ya still be sayinhg but but but the rams, but but but the lions! But but but the raiders!

We aint the rams, we aint the lions, we most definately aint the f**king raiders man! And by your we should be 6-8 this year your math just don't add up! We played the rams twice, they are in the nfc west! So we woulda been 5-8 but as fate has had it correct me if I'm wrong our record at the end of the season was 8-8! Last I checked that's at exactly .500. We didn't win the vikes and colts game but almost did. There are improvements since singltary took over, if ya don't wanna recognise the improvements then hey man that's on you. I respect your opinions! I don't give a flying f**k if ya respect mine.

Now this time next year we can come back to crabtrees one year older! And actually haveing time to practice during the offseason. Look what he did wit next to no time with the team due to the hold out and to do as well as he did. Just imagine if he had signed from day one. f**king deion and mc hammer!

Lol if I came accross as a dick my bad I'm not lol!


No man, you make a good argument. I'd take a one and done this year.
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:

Oh and by the way, it wasn't an 8-8 record last year. The Rams and Lions games don't count. The team was 6 - 8.


According to 9eridiot we was 6-8! Shouldn't we be 5-8 since we played the rams twice, or did I miss something! 8-8 goniners, now for our 10-6 season or 11-5

Frankie,
When you're out of the playoffs, the season's over. (Usually week 3 or 4 for the Raiders and Lions.)

Everybody's excited about going 8-8. Remember: the Niners were a pathetic 6-8 when knocked out of the playoffs last year. No killer spirit against the Colts and Vikings and got embarassed by the Eagles and Falcons.

What's different this year? Crabtree's older I'll give you that and Brooks is a monster. What else you got?

And how's that going to translate to 10-6 or 11-5?

Well 8-8 was our first non losing season good no! Horrible no! Could be way better! Ya bring up the colts and vikes that we couldn't put em away. This si true! Wit the bite on the run for that hb pass. Yeah that sucked but addai had just pulled off a 7 yrd gain against us! Of course the d was gonna charge addai! And well favre pulled a miracle last second pass to a reciever he didn't even know was on the field. We coulda been 10-6 and made the playoffs but failed to do so. So I can see your dismay in the niners man! But I agree ya can blame luck for your failures.

This upcoming draft and season will show one of 2 things! 1 we have a great draft and get that lineman and gaurd everyones talking bout! The continuity, wit the oc and and the defense kicks in a even higher gear along with the offense and alex tears it up and we make a good run towards the playoffs and make a win or 2 in the playoffs! Now for number 2 our new gm is the next t donahue, he bombs on the dratf, we didn't sign no help in free agency, which means our line doesn't improve! Alex is rushed and doesn't have sufficient time in the pocket! Therefore makes mistakes! Tho he has a better feel with crabs but is forced to throw the ball to early. Our defense gets put on the field for over half of the game and tires out! And becomes a non factor! And we win 6-10 if we are lucky

So maybe all the cards fall rite and we make the playoffs and are one and done! How would ya feel about that would ya see that as an improvement or would ya still be sayinhg but but but the rams, but but but the lions! But but but the raiders!

We aint the rams, we aint the lions, we most definately aint the f**king raiders man! And by your we should be 6-8 this year your math just don't add up! We played the rams twice, they are in the nfc west! So we woulda been 5-8 but as fate has had it correct me if I'm wrong our record at the end of the season was 8-8! Last I checked that's at exactly .500. We didn't win the vikes and colts game but almost did. There are improvements since singltary took over, if ya don't wanna recognise the improvements then hey man that's on you. I respect your opinions! I don't give a flying f**k if ya respect mine.

Now this time next year we can come back to crabtrees one year older! And actually haveing time to practice during the offseason. Look what he did wit next to no time with the team due to the hold out and to do as well as he did. Just imagine if he had signed from day one. f**king deion and mc hammer!

Lol if I came accross as a dick my bad I'm not lol!


No man, you make a good argument. I'd take a one and done this year.

Well depends on how this season goes! Wehter alex wants it bad enough, and the yorks and as well as the yorks! Ya may get that one and done, or hey we may get that promising future for the org that well will bring success. If worse comes to worse alex could be one and done! But I'm hoping the best man!
Originally posted by frankie:
Tho ya don't care really what peeps think, thanks for the great breakdown man! The time the effort the works man! Good job! Gore is the man. And alex will show up this year, let's just get the line beefed up and we are algood

thanks! i DO care i just mean, i'm not doing this to try to convince anyone of anything one way or the other. not interested in blaming any players or making excuses for any players. these were just my observations upon review. that's all. some of these observations will go into forming my opinions when we start talking draft, etc, but that's another thread obviously.
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:
Originally posted by frankie:
Tho ya don't care really what peeps think, thanks for the great breakdown man! The time the effort the works man! Good job! Gore is the man. And alex will show up this year, let's just get the line beefed up and we are algood

thanks! i DO care i just mean, i'm not doing this to try to convince anyone of anything one way or the other. not interested in blaming any players or making excuses for any players. these were just my observations upon review. that's all. some of these observations will go into forming my opinions when we start talking draft, etc, but that's another thread obviously.

Well the break down was very well appreciated! I did see this game but there was a few I didn't get to watch! I used the net or listened to the radio! Sooo on that note the play by play breakdown is greatly appreciated! I know they are done by the matts, and that's good as well. I am well informed tho. Thanks to the web and the zone and when I actually get to see the games lol

But as I said your post and many others do the same to an extent here and there they and you are def appreciated
EAGLES GAME HAS BEEN ADDED!!!

it' easy to see a pattern evolving. look how many of our drives are ending on 3rd and 7 or longer. then if you look at the play sequence that got it to 3rd and 7, often times it's poor OL play that keeps getting us to face 3rd and long instead of 3rd and manageable. we did rank last in the league with the most runs of 2 yards or less right? hard to face 3rd and managable when you have no consistency in your run blocking to keep you on schedule for 3rd and 2, 3 or 4.

maybe someone else will compile those stats or can find them. i wonder what our average 3rd down distance was and how that compared to other teams.

[ Edited by 9erHIGH on Apr 7, 2010 at 02:07:15 ]
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
u sure have alot of time on your hands lol

so do you, trolling threads...

Dude, don't trip chocolate chip.

I recorded all of last seasons games and watch them , because I can't really watch pron when my girl is around.

If that's why you posted this(I'm glad you did tho) then...

Ummmm, who needs pron when the girl is around?

*Dun dun.

dun dun, dun dun.

BON CHICA WOW WOW*

~Ceadder
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
FIX THE OLINE!


THE OLINE!

I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS, YORKIE!

Great Idea Tony !!!

Except ...

Didn't we have a good RG in Smiley that York let walk away?

Didn't we have a good RT in Pashos that York let walk away?

Tell us, Tony, how can he fix the OL (or any other area of the team) when he's got no idea what he's doing?

Did we have a good tackle in Staley who we signed long term? Did we have a good back tackle in Sims that we did not let walk and resigned him? Now the great question for this year is will we get quality players for our Oline?


You'd seriously rather have Simms than Pachos?

Regardless, Simms would have walked too if not for the fall-out from the McCloughan debacle. They called him quick and begged him back so they could get some positive press.

Its "Sims" and "Pashos."

You gotta link for the bolded?

Thanks for the correction.

You'd probably need to talk with Barry or Jed for that. Until then, it's purely unsubstaniated and scurrilous rumer.

"Unsubstantiated" and "rumor."

So you just make stuff up and post it, then criticize the team and its owners based on your imagination?

Why does that sound so familiar.

You . . . a fan . . . of Singletary, . . . by chance?

Old Dude,

I'm not making any of this up.

And no, I'm not particularly a fan of Sing's either. (The rah-rah bit gets old after awhile when the team keeps getting its ass handed to it.)

Oh and by the way, it wasn't an 8-8 record last year. The Rams and Lions games don't count. The team was 6 - 8.

~Ceadder
Hmmmm lots of missed blocks in the Philly game? Who knew.

Lots of them by Chilo. And a few that included Heitmann the wunderkind?

Gee two guesses as to why that was?

~Ceadder
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Great stuff, 9erHIGH.

I did game breakdowns that were something like this throughout the season. It's very cool (and frustrating) to analyze the little things that get missed by the casual fans. Keep up the good work, and just know that a select number of these fan responses will always be filled with hate for Alex Smith. Their feet are simply dug in way too deep at this point to ever change their tune. Don't let them to distract you.

this

Great job & keep up the good work.
I like your take. why not throw jimmy raye under the bus a little bit for predictable play calls... Sure some of the third down to Vdavis were fun but it can only work for so long. We started doing better when we became more difficult to read. Oh and trying to run smashmouth Ofense with an illsuited line ...uhh anyone could tell we didnt have the skill to dictate games with Gore alone
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