Originally posted by Niners99:
first lets look at his positives. he seemed to really have a knack for jarring the ball loose. in the game that basically started driving this myth, monday night vs. AZ, he made alot of very fundamental hits to knock the ball free.
he also tied for the NFL lead in sacks by S, with 3, although that was really all he did in the business of getting to the QB. hes nowhere to be found in QB hits or pressures, so you cant really call him a "pass rushing S".
Goldson actually has two sacks according to NFL.com which is the authority here. There's no such thing as a "pass rushing safety" anyway, since the only reason a safety should be going after the QB is if a blitz was called, and generally when the 49ers call blitzes it's the LB or a DB going in, not the safety.
Already you're looking bad because you've used incorrect information in coming to a faulty conclusion about a position that doesn't exist. Let's go on.
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He was solid against stopping the run, as was our entire D. finished in the top 10 for total tackles by a S in the NFL. he also picked off 4 passes, good for an 8 way tie for 7th most. (although he did have alot of chances)
You managed to get one piece of information correct here, and that's the number of INTs. However Goldson is a FS, and he's tied for 5th in the league in INTs by a FS. You also failed to bring up that he's tied for 2nd amongst FS for forced fumbles.
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and now for the not so impressive stuff.
Dashon Goldson was the worst cover S in football this season. yes, jarring fumbles loose is great, racking up tackles is nice too, but if youre a defensive back, you better be able to cover a pass catcher, or youll be out of a job no matter how hard you hit.
he was thrown at 52 times, good for 5th most in the NFL (which explains the high tackle total). he also gave up the 6th most yardage to pass catchers he was responsible for with 438, just 10 more yds than his buddy Michael Lewis at 7th. he gave up 3 TD's, which was top 15 (in a bad way).
while he racked up alot of tackles, he also missed 13 tackles, which is the 6th highest NFL total. only 2 PD this season, which is ranked 33rd.
According to NFL.com, Goldson had 10 PD this year, which ties him at 10th among FS (don't go comparing Passes Defended against CBs or SS--compare a player to his own position).
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now im not making this thread to tear him down, or to call him a bad player. hes still young, and has the tools to possibly get alot better and make his game more well rounded. right now, hes a hard hitter, he can knock a ball loose, and he seems to be around the ball alot. whether or not its because he cant cover, im not sure.
but the point is, he was not a pro bowl player this year, not even close. he can stuff the run, he can hit, he can even get after the passer a little bit, but until he improves his AWFUL coverage skills, he will be a liability to this defense. i have faith he can improve his coverage, but by no means should his job be safe.
So after digging around a bit it seems like you're using ProFootballFocus.com's stats? Well keep in mind that those are nowhere near official and are simply a couple of guy's (well several) opinion of how players stack. If you look at the list of safeties, you'll see that they rank Kerry Rhodes as the #2 safety overall. This is the same Kerry Rhodes that lost his starting job with the Jets, then was cut as soon as their season ended. They also say that Mark Roman is in the top 3rd of the league for safeties.
I would take anything they put down with a grain or two of salt. They have some interesting information and some interesting ways of looking at things but it's all subjective and their stats are not official stats from the NFL.
Goldson is decent but does make alot of mistakes and wasnt even near a pro bowl level this year.He gace up ALOT of plays through the air. He gave up more big playes through the air than he did picks thats not good
