The truth about Dashon Goldson. | Page 4

Niners99 · 2010-01-26T05:50:43-08:00

Ive noticed for the past few weeks, there a big myth going around the zone that Dashon Goldson is a pro bowl caliber S. statistics prove otherwise. first lets look at his positives. he seemed to really have a knack for jarring the ball loose. in the game that basically started driving this myth, monday night vs. AZ, he made alot of very fundamental hits to knock the ball free. he also tied for the NFL lead in sacks by S, with 3, although that was really all he did in the business of getting to the QB. hes nowhere to be found in QB hits or pressures, so you cant really call him a "pass rushing S". He was solid against stopping the run, as was our entire D. finished in the top 10 for total tackles by a S in the NFL. he also picked off 4 passes, good for an 8 way tie for 7th most. (although he did have alot of chances) and now for the not so impressive stuff. Dashon Goldson was the worst cover S in football this season. yes, jarring fumbles loose is great, racking up tackles is nice too, but if youre a defensive back, you better be able to cover a pass catcher, or youll be out of a job no matter how hard you hit. he was thrown at 52 times, good for 5th most in the NFL (which explains the high tackle total). he also gave up the 6th most yardage to pass catchers he was responsible for with 438, just 10 more yds than his buddy Michael Lewis at 7th. he gave up 3 TD's, which was top 15 (in a bad way). while he racked up alot of tackles, he also missed 13 tackles, which is the 6th highest NFL total. only 2 PD this season, which is ranked 33rd. now im not making this thread to tear him down, or to call him a bad player. hes still young, and has the tools to possibly get alot better and make his game more well rounded. right now, hes a hard hitter, he can knock a ball loose, and he seems to be around the ball alot. whether or not its because he cant cover, im not sure. but the point is, he was not a pro bowl player this year, not even close. he can stuff the run, he can hit, he can even get after the passer a little bit, but until he improves his AWFUL coverage skills, he will be a liability to this defense. i have faith he can improve his coverage, but by no means should his job be safe.

Jan 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

#46

BigDaddy
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Dude is upping his game and will be even better next year. Would love to see Scott get another young buck in the draft and have a killer saftey tandem the next several years.

Jan 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM

#47

BrianGO
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The truth about statistics, and the way you arrive at your conclusions...

Its absurd.

Its the reason the stock market tanked, the economy is in the tank, people are clueless, etc.

Following statistics, and coming to conclusions entirely based off of them BUNK. Its a worship of a false idol. You can come to ANY conclusion about ANYTHING with enough misleading statistical crap.

The truth about Frank Gore...
The truth about Goldson...
The truth about Vernon Davis...

The truth about statistics is that there is not a SHRED of truth within them.

A quarterback threw for 1,000,000 yards; who cares. Did I see him play? Maybe they were all screen passes to Superman.

Watch the players play and then come to the conclusion. Statistics are just a SHADOW of the truth.

Statistics don't lie? Ha. Statistics are the ultimate tool for lying.

What do you think employment is at in this country? 10%? What a joke. Try 30%.
Through discounting tons of reality, including part-time workers, they created a false statistic to make people feel better.

These days people can be told the sky is green and not blue because the "Center for Real Analysis of Physics" aka CRAP said so.

Frank Gore can't block??? Goldson can't cover??? What a load of CRAP.

Jan 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM

#48

niner_empire
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totally agree. i dont think he has the speed or range to be a solid fs. i totally see him as a solid ss though.

Jan 26, 2010 at 8:10 PM

#49

9erfanAUS
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
You only accounted for total yards. Which is not a great measure.

Look at Goldson's average per play, and he is far, far better.

That's the better indicator of how much yardage was given up.

I will say though that I was one of the poster's at midseason who was calling for us to spend a high draft pick on FS. Every time he missed a tackle by simply going for the big hit instead of wrapping up, reminded me why.

He has played inconsistently, and I still think that there's room for improvement. However, I do think that he can take the next step this upcoming season now that he has some experience.

-9fA

Jan 26, 2010 at 8:54 PM

#50

Faceless
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The truth about the guy who posted this topic...... Ur a F*****g f*g.

Jan 26, 2010 at 9:06 PM

#51

Spoonerism
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Toward the end of the season Goldson was playing much better and much improved. I bet most of those stats were from the first 8 games. I don't care about the pro bowl so long as the guy is solid. The truth about Goldson is that he is solid with a lot of upside.

Jan 26, 2010 at 11:18 PM

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1. first year starter

2. hes better than roman

3. i wonder how many plays he was on the field compared to other FS?

4. who said pro bowler (at this moment)

5. hes better than roman

Jan 26, 2010 at 11:38 PM

#53

Snider8706
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Originally posted by Allx9er:
1. first year starter

2. hes better than roman

3. i wonder how many plays he was on the field compared to other FS?

4. who said pro bowler (at this moment)

5. hes better than roman

Totally agree......Especially with number 5!

Jan 26, 2010 at 11:40 PM

#54

Snider8706
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Originally posted by Faceless:
The truth about the guy who posted this topic...... Ur a F*****g f*g.

LOL.....................Yea and the guy who posted the "truth" thread about gore too!

Jan 27, 2010 at 12:09 AM

#55

DertyDonahue
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Originally posted by Snider8706:
Originally posted by Faceless:
The truth about the guy who posted this topic...... Ur a F*****g f*g.

LOL.....................Yea and the guy who posted the "truth" thread about gore too!

Move to amend, anybody posting a "truth" thread about anybody, is a c*ck smokin' troll.

Jan 27, 2010 at 12:14 AM

#56

Snider8706
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Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by Snider8706:
Originally posted by Faceless:
The truth about the guy who posted this topic...... Ur a F*****g f*g.

LOL.....................Yea and the guy who posted the "truth" thread about gore too!

Move to amend, anybody posting a "truth" thread about anybody, is a c*ck smokin' troll.

I second that motion......

Jan 27, 2010 at 1:16 AM

#57

waiting4number6
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Well I know this much if Quinton Mikell made the Pro Bowl, then Dashon should be in, cuz he a much better candidate, and unlike Mikell he's at least halfway deserving of a Pro Bowl spot.

Jan 27, 2010 at 1:20 AM

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YungAce
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One of the best threads I've seen in a while. This is exactly why Goldson needs to be moved to SS. Come on down Rhodes !

Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM

#59

Mister49
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Originally posted by pelos21:
OMG dude chill! It was his first year starting and were already talking probowl caliber! Sure he made mistakes but IT WAS HIS FIRST YEAR!!!!!!! Next year we will talking about how he should of made all pro.

This!

Jan 27, 2010 at 3:47 AM

#60

Faceless
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Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by Snider8706:
Originally posted by Faceless:
The truth about the guy who posted this topic...... Ur a F*****g f*g.

LOL.....................Yea and the guy who posted the "truth" thread about gore too!

Move to amend, anybody posting a "truth" thread about anybody, is a c*ck smokin' troll.

all this "truth about" topics are jus a way for these guys to get comfortable with themselves so they can write their biography "the truth about a raging h**osexual coming out of his own closet"