Nate Davis: QB of the future? A look w/ video at his preseason | Page 14

Marvin49 · 2009-09-14T17:16:28-07:00

Nate Davis 2009 Pre-Season So, my intention was for me to put this up on Friday to have something to look at before the game, but this little project ended up taking me ALOT more time than I thought. I’m very happy that the Niners won this weekend and I’m not suggesting a QB change, but I thought we might like to see the 49ers current #3 QB and possible QB of the future in action. I’ve gone and done something a little loony. ;-) I like what I see from Nate Davis and I realized that we have probably seen the last of him for some time. Buried at #3 on the depth chart, he probably won’t see the light of day this season…and that’s not all bad. Maybe a redshirt year is exactly what he needs. Anyway, we are now into the games that mean something and we won’t be thinking too much about one Nate Davis. As such, I decided to put together a package of every pass he threw in the preseason and a breakdown of his performance. If we do end up having QB trouble this year, at least we’ll have something to look at when his name comes up. This is my first attempt at video editing, so be kind. ;-) Enjoy. Raiders Game: 1)First past…low and behind Spurlock. Looks like nerves just got to him. Bad pass. 0 for 1 2)Gets early pressure, scrambles out of the pocket, throws it away. Good decision…nothing there. 0 for 2 3)Stands tall and hits a nice touch pass to TE Finley. 8 yards 4)Pressured again, another throw away. 1 for 4 8 Yards 5)Nice pass to Hill for a first down. 13 yards. 2 for 5 21 Yards 6)Incomplete pass. May have been a misread by Davis or Finley. Either way, bad pass. 2 for 6 21 Yards 7)Pressured again, scrambles again, throws a DART to Delanie Walker for 27 yards. NICE. 3 for 7 48 Yards 8)Nice 1 yard TD pass to Delanie Walker. 4 for 8 49 Yards 1TD 9)Another nice pass…2-Point Conversion to Delanie Walker. 4 for 8 49 Yards 1TD 10)Pressure and another throw away. He seems to be content to throw it away what it’s not there. 4 for 9 49 Yards 1TD 11)Nice throw to Jason Hill over the middle. Davis seems poised back there under pressure. 5 for 10 64 Yards 1TD 12)3 Yard pass to Hill. Davis seems to have something with Hill, they play well together. 6 for 11 67 Yards 1TD Cowboys Game: 13)Quick WR screen route than Davis misses badly. Bad Pass. 6 for 12 67 Yards 1TD 14)7 yard screen to Kory Sheets. 7 for 13 74 Yards 1TD 15)NICE. Davis looks CALM. Drops back, stands tall, hits Delanie Walker for 20 yards on 3rd and 1. He seems to have good communication with Walker as well. 8 for 14 94 Yards 1TD 16)WOW. Nate scrambles and fires a ROCKET to Spurlock on the sideline. 15 yards. Impressive arm…and ACCURATE. 9 for 15 109 Yards 1TD 17)3 nice play in a row. Nate gets pressured, steps up in the pocket and drills a pass to Finley at the 1. Gain of 19 yards This is EASILY Nate’s best drive to date. Kory Sheets runs it in on the next play. 10 for 16 138 Yards 1TD 18)5 Yard pass to Sheets. Missed this one on the video. 11 for 17 143 Yards 1TD 19)Incomplete pass on a screen to Sheets. Sheets just dropped it. 11 for 18 143 Yards 1TD 20)LOW pass to Brit Miller in the flat who makes a very nice catch and picks up the first down. Better Play by Miller than Davis. 11 yards. 12 for 19 155 Yards 1TD 21)Pass on third and long complete for 3 yards to Brit Miller. 13 for 20 158 Yards 1TD 22)Two Minute Drill: 1st pass Nate is pressured and throws low and incomplete over the middle. 13 for 21 158 Yards 1TD 23)Davis double pumps and guns it to Zeiglar on the sideline. Not sure if it’s knocked away or dropped. Incomplete. 13 for 22 158 Yards 1TD 24)Davis makes a rookie (or Brett Favre) mistake here. He gets flushed out of the pocket and heaves the ball downfield. Should have been intercepted or incomplete, but the Niners get lucky and they get a Pass Interference. I do have to admit tho, he threw the ball 40 yards in the air on a dead run and falling backwards. 13 for 22 158 Yards 1TD 25)Deep pass to Zeiglar. Looks like it was just a bit long. 13 for 23 158 Yards 1TD 26)Checkdown to Kory Sheets, gain of 6 yards. 14 for 24 164 Yards 1TD 27)WOAH. 11 yard opposite hash FROZEN ROPE to Zeiglar on the sideline out route. That’s a pass that will scare DBs. 15 for 25 175 Yards 1TD 28)UM…WOW. Pressure in his face and he delivers a STRIKE to Spurlock for a 35 yard gain. Just…WOW. Completely composed, super accurate. NICE. Sheets scores 2 plays later. 16 for 26 210 Yards 1TD Chargers Game: 29)Early pressure, throws pass away. 16 for 27 210 Yards 1TD 30)9 yard completion to Josh Morgan on 3rd down. Davis seems very calm and poised back there. 17 for 28 219 Yards 1TD 31)Deep Pass to Delanie Walker overthrown. It doesn’t look like he was open anyway. I’m noticing that he was having trouble on the deep pass. He’s overthrowing them. This was a bad pass. 17 for 29 219 Yards 1TD 32)6 Yard Screen to Glen Coffee. 18 for 30 225 Yards 1TD 33)Pass to Brit Miller for a 1 yard loss. 19 for 31 224 Yards 1TD 34)4 yard pass to Spurlock. 20 for 32 228 Yards 1TD 35)Quick 1 yard out to Zieglar. OUCH…looks painful for Zeiglar. 21 for 33 229 Yards 1TD 36)Nate misses on a screen to Streets. Bad pass. 21 for 34 229 Yards 1TD 37)Nate feels pressure, scrambles and hits Michael Robinson for 4 yards. Unfortunately it was 3rd and 24. 22 for 35 233 Yards 1TD 38)Two-Minute Drill: NICE 12 yard sideline route to Jason Hill. Nate showing off his arm and accuracy here. 23 for 36 245 Yards 1TD 39)13 yard pass to Spurlock. Nice throw. 24 for 37 258 Yards 1TD 40)33 yard completion to Price down the sideline. The pass was actually underthrown and price made a good move to get to the ball. Not a great throw. 25 for 38 291 Yards 1TD 41)Pressured and thrown away. 25 for 39 291 Yards 1TD 42)GREAT PLAY. Nate stands tall in the pocket, looks completely calm, and hits Jason Hill for 21 yards in the endzone. I can’t get over how composed he looks in the pocket. He even had a defender rushing up the middle and he calmly delivered the ball on target. 26 for 40 312 Yards 2TD 43)Incomplete pass to Streets on a screen. He seems to be having a little trouble with screens. 26 for 41 312 Yards 2TD 44)Designed rollout, nothing there, wisely throws it away. 26 for 42 312 Yards 2TD 45)Nate sets up and makes a good sideline pass…it’s just too bad the receiver decides to stop running and the pass is nearly intercepted. 26 for 43 312 Yards 2TD 46)Bad throw. Nate doesn’t see the safety over the middle and nearly has one picked off. 26 for 44 312 Yards 2TD 47)Two-Minute Drill: Completion to the FB for 7 yards. 27 for 45 319 Yards 2TD 48)Deep pass to Jason Hill. Can’t tell if it was on target or not because Hill was mugged. It looks like it may have been underthrown tho. Pass Interference. 27 for 45 319 Yards 2TD 49)Under pressure Davis dumps it to sheets right in front of him for no gain. 28 for 46 319 Yards 2TD 50)7 yards to Bear Pascoe. 29 for 47 326 Yards 2TD 51)Davis’ final pass. Not a bad pass, but JUST underthrown to the FB and then a freak bounce made it an INT. 29 for 48 326 Yards 2TD 1INT Final Pre-Season Stats (not accounting for Sacks): 29 for 48 326 Yards 2TD 1INT So my opinion of Davis after re-watching all of his throws is pretty much what my initial opinion was. He’s young and makes some mistakes, but there is a lot there to like. Bad: He makes some rookie mistakes, has a problem completing screen passes for some reason (I dunno how many he ran at Ball St.) and his deep sideline ball needs some work. He’s not very quick on his feet and he does lack ideal height. Good: WOW he has an arm. The ball just seems to LEAP out of his hand. He also seems to be pinpoint accurate (I didn’t see a single high throw and he leads the receivers well), he is VERY calm and collected in the pocket, he stands tall (at least as tall as he can) with his feet planted, is able to sidestep the rush and deliver the ball, and he doesn’t seem to be fazed AT ALL by the pass rush around him. In fact some of his best throws came with pressure right in his face. I’ve never been a guy who thought that a rocket arm was necessary to succeed in the NFL (Neither Montana or Young had one), but after seeing Nate hit those 10-15 yard out patterns…I’m impressed. He also seems to have a very quick release. Nate also seems to be at his best in the 2 minute drill and in the shotgun…no doubt because of the offense he ran in college. Bottom line, it’s just preseason, but I REALLY like what I see. [ Edited by Marvin49 on Sep 14, 2009 at 17:18:41 ]

Jan 30, 2010 at 8:41 PM

#196

wolfpack52
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Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Did you guys forget that he barely made the roster. Haurd deserved the spot but the Niners decided to go younger. Hes a bum at this point. Let him learn mechanics first.

Nate had the best QB rating of all of the team's QBs during the preseason. He definitely has the best arm and is more accurate. But unsubstantiated claims like yours fall way more towards opinion than fact.

He played against guys who were cut or were put on the practice squad of there respective teams. Smith and Hill took turns against First string defenses and guys fighting for a roster spot. So I guess you want the MVP of one of those indoor football leagues....I bet his stats are great.

Please, Alex played against third stringer as well. Plus, While Alex had some first stringer playing WITH him, Nate did not. Moreover, Alex shared practice time with the starters while Nate got very little practice time; so all in all, that whole argument regarding who was on the field is pretty weak. Bottom line is that Nate's arm and accuracy is CLEARLY the best on the team.

Fine against no blitz in the F'in preseason Nate is the man. And the niners backups are just as good as the starters for the most part. Let him take a regular season snap before you hail his accuracy. 2 guys Nate can be are Romo and Gerrard. Two guys who sat the bench for a while and learned the game. Best thing that ever happened to them. Im sure there more.....seems like Im forgetting someone.....

Jan 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM

#197

ttime1
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Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Did you guys forget that he barely made the roster. Haurd deserved the spot but the Niners decided to go younger. Hes a bum at this point. Let him learn mechanics first.

Nate had the best QB rating of all of the team's QBs during the preseason. He definitely has the best arm and is more accurate. But unsubstantiated claims like yours fall way more towards opinion than fact.

He played against guys who were cut or were put on the practice squad of there respective teams. Smith and Hill took turns against First string defenses and guys fighting for a roster spot. So I guess you want the MVP of one of those indoor football leagues....I bet his stats are great.

Please, Alex played against third stringer as well. Plus, While Alex had some first stringer playing WITH him, Nate did not. Moreover, Alex shared practice time with the starters while Nate got very little practice time; so all in all, that whole argument regarding who was on the field is pretty weak. Bottom line is that Nate's arm and accuracy is CLEARLY the best on the team.

Fine against no blitz in the F'in preseason Nate is the man. And the niners backups are just as good as the starters for the most part. Let him take a regular season snap before you hail his accuracy. 2 guys Nate can be are Romo and Gerrard. Two guys who sat the bench for a while and learned the game. Best thing that ever happened to them. Im sure there more.....seems like Im forgetting someone.....

Some have benefited from sitting and others have benefited from playing. Who ever gives the team the best chance to win should play. The coaches have clearly indicated that it is Alex's to loose.

Jan 30, 2010 at 9:23 PM

#198

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Oh snap.

Literally

Jan 31, 2010 at 1:20 AM

#199

abowers1984
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Nope - he reinjured it after he had already lost the battle for 1st string QB

Jan 31, 2010 at 1:39 AM

#200

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Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Did you guys forget that he barely made the roster. Haurd deserved the spot but the Niners decided to go younger. Hes a bum at this point. Let him learn mechanics first.

Nate had the best QB rating of all of the team's QBs during the preseason. He definitely has the best arm and is more accurate. But unsubstantiated claims like yours fall way more towards opinion than fact.

He played against guys who were cut or were put on the practice squad of there respective teams. Smith and Hill took turns against First string defenses and guys fighting for a roster spot. So I guess you want the MVP of one of those indoor football leagues....I bet his stats are great.

Please, Alex played against third stringer as well. Plus, While Alex had some first stringer playing WITH him, Nate did not. Moreover, Alex shared practice time with the starters while Nate got very little practice time; so all in all, that whole argument regarding who was on the field is pretty weak. Bottom line is that Nate's arm and accuracy is CLEARLY the best on the team.

Fine against no blitz in the F'in preseason Nate is the man. And the niners backups are just as good as the starters for the most part. Let him take a regular season snap before you hail his accuracy. 2 guys Nate can be are Romo and Gerrard. Two guys who sat the bench for a while and learned the game. Best thing that ever happened to them. Im sure there more.....seems like Im forgetting someone.....

Some have benefited from sitting and others have benefited from playing. Who ever gives the team the best chance to win should play. The coaches have clearly indicated that it is Alex's to loose.

And he will lose it... at some point.

Alex will once again prove that he is incapable of executing the offense out of pro-style sets and the team will be forced to either resort back to the spread formation, or give Davis the opportunity to see what he can do from under center.

Im not sure which path Singletary will choose, but it just seems completely backwards to mold the offense to #11 at the expense of our best offensive player (Franklin Gore), just because he's incapable of going through his progressions while dropping back from under center.

Jan 31, 2010 at 8:53 AM

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If the Niners even had an average line then maybe they could play in a real set but until then they are better off using spread sets. That arguement has nothing to do wih Gore or Smith. Why in the world would anyone want to put Davis behind a crappy line anyway? Thats lose/lose

Jan 31, 2010 at 9:06 AM

#202

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Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Nope - he reinjured it after he had already lost the battle for 1st string QB

Actually it was only discovered late in the preseason. It's just as likely that it was always injured and the injury grew worse as he played.

Jan 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM

#203

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Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Nope - he reinjured it after he had already lost the battle for 1st string QB

Jan 31, 2010 at 10:23 PM

#204

abowers1984
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Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Nope - he reinjured it after he had already lost the battle for 1st string QB

Actually it was only discovered late in the preseason. It's just as likely that it was always injured and the injury grew worse as he played.

According to Alex, he was pain free leading up to the occurence and then felt a sharp pain after one throw in a drill towards the end of the practice.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-09-07/bay-area/17161126_1_o-sullivan-preseason-scot-mccloughan

[ Edited by abowers1984 on Jan 31, 2010 at 10:34 PM ]

Jan 31, 2010 at 10:41 PM

#205

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Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

I believe Mr. Smith was given that chance over and over and showed nothing until the 9ers started using the spread.

Nate looked great in pre-season, Smith never looked that good in pre-season.

Jan 31, 2010 at 10:43 PM

#206

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Originally posted by Canadian49er:
Jamarcus Russel written all over him.

He bails out EVERY TIME there's pressure. He get's lucky on a few where his tight end squeeks free. I mean, in a real game situation all teams would have to do is blitz and take away Vernon Davis.

He is WAY too raw to play in the NFL right now

You're talking about Smith right?

Jan 31, 2010 at 10:55 PM

#207

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Originally posted by BAD_AL:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

I believe Mr. Smith was given that chance over and over and showed nothing until the 9ers started using the spread.

Nate looked great in pre-season, Smith never looked that good in pre-season.

I don't beiliev smith got the chance to play people who are now on practice squads are out of the league eiter

Feb 1, 2010 at 12:20 AM

#208

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Feb 1, 2010 at 12:48 AM

#209

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Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DertyDonahue:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by smashmouth51:
Alex could open a big can of whoop-a$$ on third stringers too

Well he wasnt able to when competing against JTO during the 08' preseason...

Oh snap

wasn't his arm partly seperated still that's y he had to get another surgery on his shoulder

Nope - he reinjured it after he had already lost the battle for 1st string QB

Actually it was only discovered late in the preseason. It's just as likely that it was always injured and the injury grew worse as he played.

According to Alex, he was pain free leading up to the occurence and then felt a sharp pain after one throw in a drill towards the end of the practice.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-09-07/bay-area/17161126_1_o-sullivan-preseason-scot-mccloughan

He's acknowledged that after the 2nd surgery though his throwing motion is a lot easier and it's a lot more back to normal. If you don't see a difference with his velocity on the ball and stuff that's just wrong.

Feb 1, 2010 at 1:30 AM

#210

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Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by wolfpack52:
Did you guys forget that he barely made the roster. Haurd deserved the spot but the Niners decided to go younger. Hes a bum at this point. Let him learn mechanics first.

Nate had the best QB rating of all of the team's QBs during the preseason. He definitely has the best arm and is more accurate. But unsubstantiated claims like yours fall way more towards opinion than fact.

He played against guys who were cut or were put on the practice squad of there respective teams. Smith and Hill took turns against First string defenses and guys fighting for a roster spot. So I guess you want the MVP of one of those indoor football leagues....I bet his stats are great.

Wasn't Kurt Warner an Arena League MVP?