Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Indeed. Why is he on the team? If he's not good enough to even run the scout team why hasn't he been cut?
A simple google search shows all of the Brown's backup QBs run the scout team according to the QB coach. So i guess you got half the story, yes Shedeur doesn't run the scout team when its not his turn. LOL
But I guess you keep clamoring to the idea that the NFL is conspiring to keep Sanders down by forcing him on the Browns and the Browns are keeping him on the active roster to teach him a lesson. LOL. What exactly is the lesson at this point? They'll pay Shedeur $1.2 million this year not to play? That'll teach him!!!
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Indeed. Why is he on the team? If he's not good enough to even run the scout team why hasn't he been cut?
A simple google search shows all of the Brown's backup QBs run the scout team according to the QB coach. So i guess you got half the story, yes Shedeur doesn't run the scout team when its not his turn. LOL
But I guess you keep clamoring to the idea that the NFL is conspiring to keep Sanders down by forcing him on the Browns and the Browns are keeping him on the active roster to teach him a lesson. LOL. What exactly is the lesson at this point?They'll pay Shedeur $1.2 million this year not to play? That'll teach him!!!__PRESENT__PRESENT
Man, this went right over your head. Ok, I knew before I posted, according to the Browns, that all QB's are getting scout team reps (which is laughable and just begs all kinds of questions, but I'll put that down for now). I was being flippant to make another point about them needing to just cut Shedeur, a point to that many in the Clevland local press are now saying that they should do so.
Clamoring for the idea of the NFL owners conspiring against Shedeur? Whether you like it or not that idea is a far-gone conclusion at this point. Hall of Famers Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson said it outright, and both have very deep sources. Also, DeMaurice Smith, former NFL PA, stated in his Breakfast Club interview (which was a very informative interview BTW, see below) that, before he left as NFLPA he was able to prove conclusively that the owners colluded in regards to FA contracts (guaranteed salaries) and he actually won the collusion case against the NFL; 40:00 timestamp for the impatient listeners in the back. But, due to a "secret agreement with the league" DeMaurice Smith's successor did NOT tell the players that the arbitrator ruled that the NFL "Management Counsel" colluded with the owners to NOT hand out guaranteed contracts. DeMaurice Smith's successor inexplicably told the players that they lost the lost the collusion case when they actually won. Even DeMaurice Smith believes the owners colluded against Shedeur. So to believe otherwise at this point is, well, delusion.
What's the point? See DeMaurice Smith's interview, and no I won't give you the timestamp on that one.
Will they pay him $1.2 million to not play? Yup. But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
This is why the Browns won't cut Shedeur or put him on the PS as normal roster situations would certainly call for. Afterall, he's an over-hyped entitled nepo baby that's never had to earn a starting spot, who at one point was 4th on the depth chart with a poor preseason game when last seen starting, right? In any other roster situation Shedeur wouldn't have made the 53, especially for a team that can't afford to carry players on their roster who won't give anything on games days.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, this went right over your head. Ok, I knew before I posted, according to the Browns, that all QB's are getting scout team reps (which is laughable and just begs all kinds of questions, but I'll put that down for now). I was being flippant to make another point about them needing to just cut Shedeur, a point to that many in the Clevland local press are now saying that they should do so.
Clamoring for the idea of the NFL owners conspiring against Shedeur? Whether you like it or not that idea is a far-gone conclusion at this point. Hall of Famers Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson said it outright, and both have very deep sources. Also, DeMaurice Smith, former NFL PA, stated in his Breakfast Club interview (which was a very informative interview BTW, see below) that, before he left as NFLPA he was able to prove conclusively that the owners colluded in regards to FA contracts (guaranteed salaries) and he actually won the collusion case against the NFL; 40:00 timestamp for the impatient listeners in the back. But, due to a "secret agreement with the league" DeMaurice Smith's successor did NOT tell the players that the arbitrator ruled that the NFL "Management Counsel" colluded with the owners to NOT hand out guaranteed contracts. DeMaurice Smith's successor inexplicably told the players that they lost the lost the collusion case when they actually won. Even DeMaurice Smith believes the owners colluded against Shedeur. So to believe otherwise at this point is, well, delusion.
What's the point? See DeMaurice Smith's interview, and no I won't give you the timestamp on that one.
Will they pay him $1.2 million to not play? Yup. But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
This is why the Browns won't cut Shedeur or put him on the PS as normal roster situations would certainly call for. Afterall, he's an over-hyped entitled nepo baby that's never had to earn a starting spot, who at one point was 4th on the depth chart with a poor preseason game when last seen starting, right? In any other roster situation Shedeur wouldn't have made the 53, especially for a team that can't afford to carry players on their roster who won't give anything on games days.
So you tell me . . .
So your evidence about collusion revolves around the NFL saving money by capping free agency. Not a shocker. Too bad they don't collude with one another when it comes to players who have multiple cases against them for sexual assault, domestic abuse, rape, etc. But as we all know the NFL will take you in if you have talent.
Nothing else makes sense what you are saying. Sheduer is #3 on the Browns depth chart right now. But you're saying he should be cut? Why? A lot of teams carry 3 QBs. Especially if you just drafted 2 of them.
So Shedeur is getting a % of jersey sales AND a base salary of 1.2 million for this year and the NFL owners are teaching him a lesson. lol. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SIGN ME UP FOR THAT LESSON!!!! So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment, I find it funny its the Browns, who are paying Deshaun Watson $46 million not to play and they are also paying Shedeur not to play.
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB. Sheduer is talented enough to be a backup for sure but look at this chit show that follows him. And whats crazy is you aren't hearing a peep from Shedeur. He's not making any noise but yet we have people like you and some in the media trying to make something out of nothing.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, this went right over your head. Ok, I knew before I posted, according to the Browns, that all QB's are getting scout team reps (which is laughable and just begs all kinds of questions, but I'll put that down for now). I was being flippant to make another point about them needing to just cut Shedeur, a point to that many in the Clevland local press are now saying that they should do so.
Clamoring for the idea of the NFL owners conspiring against Shedeur? Whether you like it or not that idea is a far-gone conclusion at this point. Hall of Famers Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson said it outright, and both have very deep sources. Also, DeMaurice Smith, former NFL PA, stated in his Breakfast Club interview (which was a very informative interview BTW, see below) that, before he left as NFLPA he was able to prove conclusively that the owners colluded in regards to FA contracts (guaranteed salaries) and he actually won the collusion case against the NFL; 40:00 timestamp for the impatient listeners in the back. But, due to a "secret agreement with the league" DeMaurice Smith's successor did NOT tell the players that the arbitrator ruled that the NFL "Management Counsel" colluded with the owners to NOT hand out guaranteed contracts. DeMaurice Smith's successor inexplicably told the players that they lost the lost the collusion case when they actually won. Even DeMaurice Smith believes the owners colluded against Shedeur. So to believe otherwise at this point is, well, delusion.
What's the point? See DeMaurice Smith's interview, and no I won't give you the timestamp on that one.
Will they pay him $1.2 million to not play? Yup. But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
This is why the Browns won't cut Shedeur or put him on the PS as normal roster situations would certainly call for. Afterall, he's an over-hyped entitled nepo baby that's never had to earn a starting spot, who at one point was 4th on the depth chart with a poor preseason game when last seen starting, right? In any other roster situation Shedeur wouldn't have made the 53, especially for a team that can't afford to carry players on their roster who won't give anything on games days.
So you tell me . . .
So your evidence about collusion revolves around the NFL saving money by capping free agency. Not a shocker. Too bad they don't collude with one another when it comes to players who have multiple cases against them for sexual assault, domestic abuse, rape, etc. But as we all know the NFL will take you in if you have talent.
Nothing else makes sense what you are saying. Sheduer is #3 on the Browns depth chart right now. But you're saying he should be cut? Why? A lot of teams carry 3 QBs. Especially if you just drafted 2 of them.
So Shedeur is getting a % of jersey sales AND a base salary of 1.2 million for this year and the NFL owners are teaching him a lesson. lol. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SIGN ME UP FOR THAT LESSON!!!! So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment, I find it funny its the Browns, who are paying Deshaun Watson $46 million not to play and they are also paying Shedeur not to play.
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB. Sheduer is talented enough to be a backup for sure but look at this chit show that follows him. And whats crazy is you aren't hearing a peep from Shedeur. He's not making any noise but yet we have people like you and some in the media trying to make something out of nothing.
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Rape? DV? SA? My goodness man, lets stay on task.
You still don't get why I'm mentioning cutting him and putting him on the PS.
But perhaps this statement makes the least sense of all:
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB.
If that's true then why even bother drafting him at all? The later you draft him the bigger circus you're guaranteeing. The reason this is an issue is that he's not a 5th round talent, and anyone paying attention knows it. As DeMaurice Smith and others have said, only way a consensus 1st round talent drops to the 5th round is ONLY if the owners say so. Many like myself believe they didn't want him to go undrafted because that actually gives him the power to choose his destination, to a team where he'll actually have a real chance of playing, not as a backup because no, Shedeur is NOT a backup talent like Dillan (which is why they don't want Dillan out there anytime soon to expose this). So the narratives of "he's a 5th round pick for a reason", "he's a backup", and the like, aren't getting any traction with those of us who know this was an NFL colluded, manufactured process in regards to Shedeur. This is one case that telling people to not believe your lying eyes isn't gonna make people shut up about it, because we can plainly see what happened here. Go check the last Browns home game. The stadium was half full. Local fans posted it. I have other thoughts on that but I won't go into it. Just know that the Browns fan base (forget about the Shedeur fans) purposely are not picking up what the NFL and Browns organization are putting down because it's not believable. It's actually laughable, and disrespectful to expect people to believe it.
Trigger warning:
The Browns (and everyone else) know full well that Shedeur is better than Dillan, and if given the chance to play with the true first team Shedeur won't give QB1 back. They know this, so they don't want Shedeur anywhere near meaningful snaps with the first team, or even the second team if they can help it. They are going to play Flacco as deep into the season as possible, bring in Dillan to play as much of the remaining games as they can make an excuse for, then POSSIBLY bring in Shedeur for perhaps the remaining game or two when the first teamers have bagged it in because there's nothing to play for - not even pride - by that time. That won't be anything to truly evaluate Shedeur on, and they know it.
From the time this kid declared for the draft to now, way too many norms have been broken to use conventional thinking to make sense of this Shedeur saga, and it's not his fault. He's handled it perfectly. But right now, there's enough NFL owners and GM's fully in their insecurities about Shedeur Sanders. Then there are others who'll go along, but to a point.
Oh, BTW:
So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment
That is not what I said. There's a reason I put emphasis on the word "fully".
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, this went right over your head. Ok, I knew before I posted, according to the Browns, that all QB's are getting scout team reps (which is laughable and just begs all kinds of questions, but I'll put that down for now). I was being flippant to make another point about them needing to just cut Shedeur, a point to that many in the Clevland local press are now saying that they should do so.
Clamoring for the idea of the NFL owners conspiring against Shedeur? Whether you like it or not that idea is a far-gone conclusion at this point. Hall of Famers Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson said it outright, and both have very deep sources. Also, DeMaurice Smith, former NFL PA, stated in his Breakfast Club interview (which was a very informative interview BTW, see below) that, before he left as NFLPA he was able to prove conclusively that the owners colluded in regards to FA contracts (guaranteed salaries) and he actually won the collusion case against the NFL; 40:00 timestamp for the impatient listeners in the back. But, due to a "secret agreement with the league" DeMaurice Smith's successor did NOT tell the players that the arbitrator ruled that the NFL "Management Counsel" colluded with the owners to NOT hand out guaranteed contracts. DeMaurice Smith's successor inexplicably told the players that they lost the lost the collusion case when they actually won. Even DeMaurice Smith believes the owners colluded against Shedeur. So to believe otherwise at this point is, well, delusion.
What's the point? See DeMaurice Smith's interview, and no I won't give you the timestamp on that one.
Will they pay him $1.2 million to not play? Yup. But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
This is why the Browns won't cut Shedeur or put him on the PS as normal roster situations would certainly call for. Afterall, he's an over-hyped entitled nepo baby that's never had to earn a starting spot, who at one point was 4th on the depth chart with a poor preseason game when last seen starting, right? In any other roster situation Shedeur wouldn't have made the 53, especially for a team that can't afford to carry players on their roster who won't give anything on games days.
So you tell me . . .
So your evidence about collusion revolves around the NFL saving money by capping free agency. Not a shocker. Too bad they don't collude with one another when it comes to players who have multiple cases against them for sexual assault, domestic abuse, rape, etc. But as we all know the NFL will take you in if you have talent.
Nothing else makes sense what you are saying. Sheduer is #3 on the Browns depth chart right now. But you're saying he should be cut? Why? A lot of teams carry 3 QBs. Especially if you just drafted 2 of them.
So Shedeur is getting a % of jersey sales AND a base salary of 1.2 million for this year and the NFL owners are teaching him a lesson. lol. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SIGN ME UP FOR THAT LESSON!!!! So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment, I find it funny its the Browns, who are paying Deshaun Watson $46 million not to play and they are also paying Shedeur not to play.
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB. Sheduer is talented enough to be a backup for sure but look at this chit show that follows him. And whats crazy is you aren't hearing a peep from Shedeur. He's not making any noise but yet we have people like you and some in the media trying to make something out of nothing.
__PRESENT __PRESENT
Rape? DV? SA? My goodness man, lets stay on task.
You still don't get why I'm mentioning cutting him and putting him on the PS.
But perhaps this statement makes the least sense of all:
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB.
If that's true then why even bother drafting him at all? The later you draft him the bigger circus you're guaranteeing. The reason this is an issue is that he's not a 5th round talent, and anyone paying attention knows it. As DeMaurice Smith and others have said, only way a consensus 1st round talent drops to the 5th round is ONLY if the owners say so. Many like myself believe they didn't want him to go undrafted because that actually gives him the power to choose his destination, to a team where he'll actually have a real chance of playing, not as a backup because no, Shedeur is NOT a backup talent like Dillan (which is why they don't want Dillan out there anytime soon to expose this). So the narratives of "he's a 5th round pick for a reason", "he's a backup", and the like, aren't getting any traction with those of us who know this was an NFL colluded, manufactured process in regards to Shedeur. This is one case that telling people to not believe your lying eyes isn't gonna make people shut up about it, because we can plainly see what happened here. Go check the last Browns home game. The stadium was half full. Local fans posted it. I have other thoughts on that but I won't go into it. Just know that the Browns fan base (forget about the Shedeur fans) purposely are not picking up what the NFL and Browns organization are putting down because it's not believable. It's actually laughable, and disrespectful to expect people to believe it.
Trigger warning:
The Browns (and everyone else) know full well that Shedeur is better than Dillan, and if given the chance to play with the true first team Shedeur won't give QB1 back. They know this, so they don't want Shedeur anywhere near meaningful snaps with the first team, or even the second team if they can help it. They are going to play Flacco as deep into the season as possible, bring in Dillan to play as much of the remaining games as they can make an excuse for, then POSSIBLY bring in Shedeur for perhaps the remaining game or two when the first teamers have bagged it in because there's nothing to play for - not even pride - by that time. That won't be anything to truly evaluate Shedeur on, and they know it.
From the time this kid declared for the draft to now, way too many norms have been broken to use conventional thinking to make sense of this Shedeur saga, and it's not his fault. He's handled it perfectly. But right now, there's enough NFL owners and GM's fully in their insecurities about Shedeur Sanders. Then there are others who'll go along, but to a point.
Oh, BTW:
So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment
That is not what I said. There's a reason I put emphasis on the word "fully".
ok dude I'm done with this. The NFL is teaching Sheduer a life lesson by paying him 1.2 million dollars + jersey sales per year. I get it now. That darn NFL really don't like them nepo babies!!!
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, this went right over your head. Ok, I knew before I posted, according to the Browns, that all QB's are getting scout team reps (which is laughable and just begs all kinds of questions, but I'll put that down for now). I was being flippant to make another point about them needing to just cut Shedeur, a point to that many in the Clevland local press are now saying that they should do so.
Clamoring for the idea of the NFL owners conspiring against Shedeur? Whether you like it or not that idea is a far-gone conclusion at this point. Hall of Famers Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson said it outright, and both have very deep sources. Also, DeMaurice Smith, former NFL PA, stated in his Breakfast Club interview (which was a very informative interview BTW, see below) that, before he left as NFLPA he was able to prove conclusively that the owners colluded in regards to FA contracts (guaranteed salaries) and he actually won the collusion case against the NFL; 40:00 timestamp for the impatient listeners in the back. But, due to a "secret agreement with the league" DeMaurice Smith's successor did NOT tell the players that the arbitrator ruled that the NFL "Management Counsel" colluded with the owners to NOT hand out guaranteed contracts. DeMaurice Smith's successor inexplicably told the players that they lost the lost the collusion case when they actually won. Even DeMaurice Smith believes the owners colluded against Shedeur. So to believe otherwise at this point is, well, delusion.
What's the point? See DeMaurice Smith's interview, and no I won't give you the timestamp on that one.
Will they pay him $1.2 million to not play? Yup. But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
This is why the Browns won't cut Shedeur or put him on the PS as normal roster situations would certainly call for. Afterall, he's an over-hyped entitled nepo baby that's never had to earn a starting spot, who at one point was 4th on the depth chart with a poor preseason game when last seen starting, right? In any other roster situation Shedeur wouldn't have made the 53, especially for a team that can't afford to carry players on their roster who won't give anything on games days.
So you tell me . . .
So your evidence about collusion revolves around the NFL saving money by capping free agency. Not a shocker. Too bad they don't collude with one another when it comes to players who have multiple cases against them for sexual assault, domestic abuse, rape, etc. But as we all know the NFL will take you in if you have talent.
Nothing else makes sense what you are saying. Sheduer is #3 on the Browns depth chart right now. But you're saying he should be cut? Why? A lot of teams carry 3 QBs. Especially if you just drafted 2 of them.
So Shedeur is getting a % of jersey sales AND a base salary of 1.2 million for this year and the NFL owners are teaching him a lesson. lol. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SIGN ME UP FOR THAT LESSON!!!! So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment, I find it funny its the Browns, who are paying Deshaun Watson $46 million not to play and they are also paying Shedeur not to play.
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB. Sheduer is talented enough to be a backup for sure but look at this chit show that follows him. And whats crazy is you aren't hearing a peep from Shedeur. He's not making any noise but yet we have people like you and some in the media trying to make something out of nothing.
__PRESENT __PRESENT
Rape? DV? SA? My goodness man, lets stay on task.
You still don't get why I'm mentioning cutting him and putting him on the PS.
But perhaps this statement makes the least sense of all:
The harsh reality is Shedeur fell in the draft because no one wants this circus from their backup QB.
If that's true then why even bother drafting him at all? The later you draft him the bigger circus you're guaranteeing. The reason this is an issue is that he's not a 5th round talent, and anyone paying attention knows it. As DeMaurice Smith and others have said, only way a consensus 1st round talent drops to the 5th round is ONLY if the owners say so. Many like myself believe they didn't want him to go undrafted because that actually gives him the power to choose his destination, to a team where he'll actually have a real chance of playing, not as a backup because no, Shedeur is NOT a backup talent like Dillan (which is why they don't want Dillan out there anytime soon to expose this). So the narratives of "he's a 5th round pick for a reason", "he's a backup", and the like, aren't getting any traction with those of us who know this was an NFL colluded, manufactured process in regards to Shedeur. This is one case that telling people to not believe your lying eyes isn't gonna make people shut up about it, because we can plainly see what happened here. Go check the last Browns home game. The stadium was half full. Local fans posted it. I have other thoughts on that but I won't go into it. Just know that the Browns fan base (forget about the Shedeur fans) purposely are not picking up what the NFL and Browns organization are putting down because it's not believable. It's actually laughable, and disrespectful to expect people to believe it.
Trigger warning:
The Browns (and everyone else) know full well that Shedeur is better than Dillan, and if given the chance to play with the true first team Shedeur won't give QB1 back. They know this, so they don't want Shedeur anywhere near meaningful snaps with the first team, or even the second team if they can help it. They are going to play Flacco as deep into the season as possible, bring in Dillan to play as much of the remaining games as they can make an excuse for, then POSSIBLY bring in Shedeur for perhaps the remaining game or two when the first teamers have bagged it in because there's nothing to play for - not even pride - by that time. That won't be anything to truly evaluate Shedeur on, and they know it.
From the time this kid declared for the draft to now, way too many norms have been broken to use conventional thinking to make sense of this Shedeur saga, and it's not his fault. He's handled it perfectly. But right now, there's enough NFL owners and GM's fully in their insecurities about Shedeur Sanders. Then there are others who'll go along, but to a point.
Oh, BTW:
So now you are saying not all owners are onboard with the assignment
That is not what I said. There's a reason I put emphasis on the word "fully".
ok dude I'm done with this. The NFL is teaching Sheduer a life lesson by paying him 1.2 million dollars jersey sales per year. I get it now. That darn NFL really don't like them nepo babies!!!
Shedeur has a long list of endorsements from when he was at Colorado: Nike, Beats by Dre, Gatorade, Brady Brand, Mercedes-Benz, and Urban Outfitters. More recently, he has added Delta Airlines and Ralph Lauren to his portfolio, and has an exclusive autograph deal with Panini America. Whatever lesson they think they're teaching Shedeur it isn't hitting like they planned it to
That darn NFL really don't like them nepo babies!!!
Deion Sanders said on the New Heights podcast that the Eagles and Ravens called Shedeur, but he said he didn't want them to draft him because he didn't want to go to a team that saw him as a long-term backup to its established franchise QB. https://t.co/RlOaWAOj6h
Deion Sanders said on the New Heights podcast that the Eagles and Ravens called Shedeur, but he said he didn't want them to draft him because he didn't want to go to a team that saw him as a long-term backup to its established franchise QB. https://t.co/RlOaWAOj6h
Step 1: Be an a** pre-draft
Step 2: Drop in the draft because you an a**
Step 3: Have good teams call and ask if you are going to be an a** if they draft you.
Step 4: Answer "Yes, I'll be an unhappy a** if you draft me"
Step 5: Get drafted by a** organization.
Step 6: Get Daddy to go on the "my son is not an a** tour"
Step 7: Pretend you couldn't remember being an a**
Step 8: Have Daddy confirm that you are indeed an a**
Step 9: ?
That darn NFL really don't like them nepo babies!!!
No, just not confident Black nepo babies
can you explain Brendan Rice, T Owen's son, Marlon Humphrey, & Patrick Sutain just to name a few? __PRESENT
Happy to. None of their fathers were hated by the owners, and the owners hate for Deion Sanders is well documented. So they all were drafted/signed by teams with coaching staffs that actually wanted them and had good intentions for them. Therefore, they got an honest shot to actually show their metal and play. This has not been the case for Shedeur. He was drafted by a team coached by a man (Kevin Stefanski) that really don't want him:
According to many in the know, NO NFL GM had Dillan Gabreial rated higher than Shedeur . . . . . . but the Browns. Now, I think in the Browns case it was Kevin Stefanski who wanted no parts of Shedeur and favored Dillan as more of a backup for Kenny Pickett (according to local press speculation) and the Andrew Berry may have favored Shedeur. I think the owners knew this and took the opportunity to exploit it to make their point. Since Stefanski didn't want him to begin with it makes sense how Shedeur has been handled, and why I think Shedeur will never see the field under a Stefanski coached team.
So, I'll continue to look for him to be cut. Afterall, in any other normal roster situation he would have been relegated to the PS. So cut him and put him on the PS.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Sep 27, 2025 at 7:29 PM ]
When was the last time a rookie took over a vet, and that vet then stayed as the #2? Only for the team to trade the #2, and then promote a practice squad player above that other QB.
This situation stinks. I don't like Sheduer, and don't like speaking up for him, but he's definitely being done dirty. He's definitely contributed to it, but he's 100% not getting a fair shake.
But such a naive question. These are billionaires with F-you money with the unregulated power to use that F-you money any way they see fit until they are regulated. Billionaires with F-you money have no problem spending $1.2 million a year just to make an insecure petty point. Watching that full DeMaurice Smith interview fully convinced me that the owners would have no problem paying anyone $1.2 mil to not play to make a point or teach a lesson. I gotta buy Smith's book. (And, I don't think the owners are done with their "lessons", which is why I think Shedeur is handing this superbly). Given what I learned about the NFL owners, and given what they'll be paying him in jersey sales (per his contract), making the Browns pay him a base, cheap salary of $1.2 million to not play is pennies, and worth their assignment!!! This is why I now think drafting him in the 5th was worse that allowing him to go undrafted. Going undrafted would have given him even more power with the ability to land in an even better opportunity to play; because frankly, I suspect that not all of the owners and GM's are fully onboard with the "assignment".
