QB Sam Darnold is a Viking

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ehhh... the only thing that's clear to me is Purdy is QB1.

Sam and Trey haven't looked too different at all IMO.

Sam's release is more consistent, and he's slightly more accurate, but to say Sam's been sharp and Trey played poorly is a stretch.

First game, Trey started with the backups, and had tons of pressure, and never got into rhythm and got pulled at half.

Sam started last week with the starting OL minus TW, and played well into the 3rd QTR if i'm not mistaken.

If Kyle decided to end Sam's day at the half, like he did with Trey in Vegas, he'd have zero TD drives.

I just don't think Sam processes things that well, and I think his blitz recognition and pocket presence is worse than Trey's, which is concerning since Trey is highly inconsistent there as well.

100% waterbear. He still has the same flaws hes always had. If Kyle schemes it open he can hit it but if there's any processing what's going on required he's lost. That is super concerning as you won't have a game where every first read gets open.

Originally posted by DrippinGoldnRed805:
Sam Darnold at best is QB3 enough said

So we go QB1, QB3, with Lance and Allen competing for the QB4 spot?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DrippinGoldnRed805:
Sam Darnold at best is QB3 enough said

So we go QB1, QB3, with Lance and Allen competing for the QB4 spot?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DrippinGoldnRed805:
Sam Darnold at best is QB3 enough said

So we go QB1, QB3, with Lance and Allen competing for the QB4 spot?

We have a starter. His name is Brock.

This war over # on the depth chart means a hill of beans because they'll both be in the 53 and the pecking order can change from game to game.

So what are we doing here with all the QB2, QB3 stuff like a UUGGGEEE, permanent decision is going to come down very soon?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ehhh... the only thing that's clear to me is Purdy is QB1.

Sam and Trey haven't looked too different at all IMO.

Sam's release is more consistent, and he's slightly more accurate, but to say Sam's been sharp and Trey played poorly is a stretch.

First game, Trey started with the backups, and had tons of pressure, and never got into rhythm and got pulled at half.

Sam started last week with the starting OL minus TW, and played well into the 3rd QTR if i'm not mistaken.

If Kyle decided to end Sam's day at the half, like he did with Trey in Vegas, he'd have zero TD drives.

I just don't think Sam processes things that well, and I think his blitz recognition and pocket presence is worse than Trey's, which is concerning since Trey is highly inconsistent there as well.

100% waterbear. He still has the same flaws hes always had. If Kyle schemes it open he can hit it but if there's any processing what's going on required he's lost. That is super concerning as you won't have a game where every first read gets open.

The difference to me is that when Lance has been bad, it's been BAD (this preseason). Darnold has been consistent, albeit not lighting it up. Neither have lit it up, but they've both been victims to horrible o line play. The o line play was better last game but still not good.

i think darnold has been more accurate and consistent with running the plays, especially protecting the ball.

i don't think it's decided yet though. Let's see who finished strong. I think Lance will go in with the second unit this chargers game. It'll be interesting.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ehhh... the only thing that's clear to me is Purdy is QB1.

Sam and Trey haven't looked too different at all IMO.

Sam's release is more consistent, and he's slightly more accurate, but to say Sam's been sharp and Trey played poorly is a stretch.

First game, Trey started with the backups, and had tons of pressure, and never got into rhythm and got pulled at half.

Sam started last week with the starting OL minus TW, and played well into the 3rd QTR if i'm not mistaken.

If Kyle decided to end Sam's day at the half, like he did with Trey in Vegas, he'd have zero TD drives.

I just don't think Sam processes things that well, and I think his blitz recognition and pocket presence is worse than Trey's, which is concerning since Trey is highly inconsistent there as well.

100% waterbear. He still has the same flaws hes always had. If Kyle schemes it open he can hit it but if there's any processing what's going on required he's lost. That is super concerning as you won't have a game where every first read gets open.

The difference to me is that when Lance has been bad, it's been BAD (this preseason). Darnold has been consistent, albeit not lighting it up. Neither have lit it up, but they've both been victims to horrible o line play. The o line play was better last game but still not good.

i think darnold has been more accurate and consistent with running the plays, especially protecting the ball.

i don't think it's decided yet though. Let's see who finished strong. I think Lance will go in with the second unit this chargers game. It'll be interesting.

I agree Sam's play hasn't been as up and down as Trey, but I think some of that has to do with the fact Trey's faced more pressure this preseason than Sam.

Some of that pressure has to do with Trey not being decisive and holding on to the ball, but still, I think Sam's had more time in the pocket, and more playing time period, the former being confirmed by several outlets.

Essentially, I think Steve Young's comments were dead on about Trey. He's feeling a little bit of the pressure knowing what's at stake for him this preseason and he's trying to make big plays while Sam's been a little bit safer.

I'm betting on Trey at this point... but that opinion could change after the next game.

Originally posted by random49er:

We have a starter. His name is Brock.

This war over # on the depth chart means a hill of beans because they'll both be in the 53 and the pecking order can change from game to game.

So what are we doing here with all the QB2, QB3 stuff like a UUGGGEEE, permanent decision is going to come down very soon?

Agree, it's not really all that big of a deal anymore. It's more about down the line. Too early to say what will happen.

It's possible that none of the quarterbacks behind Brock will be on the final 53 next year.

Darnold definitely looks like QB2 at this point. He is accurate, has good ball placement, seems to know where to go with the ball better than Lance, and has enough athleticism to his own game that Lance's better mobility is only a marginal advantage. I get that Lance looked good in slop time, but he did throw an interception on a screen and had another pick that was dropped. If the Niners are in the hunt as expected, Darnold will be the guy if Purdy is hurt or falters. If the wheels fall off the bus and we have an avalanche of injuries like 2020 then Lance should be given a look. People saying that Lance and Darnold have been more or less equal have rose colored glasses for Lance, IMO.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ehhh... the only thing that's clear to me is Purdy is QB1.

Sam and Trey haven't looked too different at all IMO.

Sam's release is more consistent, and he's slightly more accurate, but to say Sam's been sharp and Trey played poorly is a stretch.

First game, Trey started with the backups, and had tons of pressure, and never got into rhythm and got pulled at half.

Sam started last week with the starting OL minus TW, and played well into the 3rd QTR if i'm not mistaken.

If Kyle decided to end Sam's day at the half, like he did with Trey in Vegas, he'd have zero TD drives.

I just don't think Sam processes things that well, and I think his blitz recognition and pocket presence is worse than Trey's, which is concerning since Trey is highly inconsistent there as well.

100% waterbear. He still has the same flaws hes always had. If Kyle schemes it open he can hit it but if there's any processing what's going on required he's lost. That is super concerning as you won't have a game where every first read gets open.

The difference to me is that when Lance has been bad, it's been BAD (this preseason). Darnold has been consistent, albeit not lighting it up. Neither have lit it up, but they've both been victims to horrible o line play. The o line play was better last game but still not good.

i think darnold has been more accurate and consistent with running the plays, especially protecting the ball.

i don't think it's decided yet though. Let's see who finished strong. I think Lance will go in with the second unit this chargers game. It'll be interesting.

darnold has always been decent during preseason go look at his numbers. He is fools fake gold and we know who that dude is and HE is the bust not Trey. And people in here calling that bust "Sammy" is f**king pathetic.

f**k sam darnold and f**k Shanahan if he goes with Darnold as QB2 w his 55 games of suck on his resume. It's insane and just as bad as his man crush on kirk f**king cousins.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
darnold has always been decent during preseason go look at his numbers. He is fools fake gold and we know who that dude is and HE is the bust not Trey. And people in here calling that bust "Sammy" is f**king pathetic.

f**k sam darnold and f**k Shanahan if he goes with Darnold as QB2 w his 55 games of suck on his resume. It's insane and just as bad as his man crush on kirk f**king cousins.

cool. you gonna leave if it happens?

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
darnold has always been decent during preseason go look at his numbers. He is fools fake gold and we know who that dude is and HE is the bust not Trey. And people in here calling that bust "Sammy" is f**king pathetic.

f**k sam darnold and f**k Shanahan if he goes with Darnold as QB2 w his 55 games of suck on his resume. It's insane and just as bad as his man crush on kirk f**king cousins.

cool. you gonna leave if it happens?

Why would I leave - lots of fans have issues w their team's head coach decisions and/or players

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ehhh... the only thing that's clear to me is Purdy is QB1.

Sam and Trey haven't looked too different at all IMO.

Sam's release is more consistent, and he's slightly more accurate, but to say Sam's been sharp and Trey played poorly is a stretch.

First game, Trey started with the backups, and had tons of pressure, and never got into rhythm and got pulled at half.

Sam started last week with the starting OL minus TW, and played well into the 3rd QTR if i'm not mistaken.

If Kyle decided to end Sam's day at the half, like he did with Trey in Vegas, he'd have zero TD drives.

I just don't think Sam processes things that well, and I think his blitz recognition and pocket presence is worse than Trey's, which is concerning since Trey is highly inconsistent there as well.

100% waterbear. He still has the same flaws hes always had. If Kyle schemes it open he can hit it but if there's any processing what's going on required he's lost. That is super concerning as you won't have a game where every first read gets open.

The difference to me is that when Lance has been bad, it's been BAD (this preseason). Darnold has been consistent, albeit not lighting it up. Neither have lit it up, but they've both been victims to horrible o line play. The o line play was better last game but still not good.

i think darnold has been more accurate and consistent with running the plays, especially protecting the ball.

i don't think it's decided yet though. Let's see who finished strong. I think Lance will go in with the second unit this chargers game. It'll be interesting.

I agree Sam's play hasn't been as up and down as Trey, but I think some of that has to do with the fact Trey's faced more pressure this preseason than Sam.

Some of that pressure has to do with Trey not being decisive and holding on to the ball, but still, I think Sam's had more time in the pocket, and more playing time period, the former being confirmed by several outlets.

Essentially, I think Steve Young's comments were dead on about Trey. He's feeling a little bit of the pressure knowing what's at stake for him this preseason and he's trying to make big plays while Sam's been a little bit safer.

I'm betting on Trey at this point... but that opinion could change after the next game.

When you say "faced more pressure", do you mean literally or figuratively? Or both? Idk who's faced worse pressure but I know they've both been victims of blown assignments and/or poor play by the o line.

i think the Raiders game, Lance had more time than it seemed. He just held the ball too long. I think when both have had time, they've been solid for the most part.

i originally was betting on Lance to beat out Darnold, but idk now. I feel like darnold has the slight edge, but can all change depending on how he does against the chargers.

i believe the final pre season game gets some "game prep" to try and simulate a regular week before week 1 (could be wrong about this), so that'll be really interesting - I think lance will go in after the starters, before darnold, so I'm curious how he will look.

regardless who wins, I'm happy they both have at least improved from game to game. Darnold has more to lose (financially) if he isn't active on gameday, Trey may lose out on valuable reps during the week - then again, Kyle might do something unique to get Trey more reps than a typical QB3 (assuming he loses out on QB2).

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
darnold has always been decent during preseason go look at his numbers. He is fools fake gold and we know who that dude is and HE is the bust not Trey. And people in here calling that bust "Sammy" is f**king pathetic.

f**k sam darnold and f**k Shanahan if he goes with Darnold as QB2 w his 55 games of suck on his resume. It's insane and just as bad as his man crush on kirk f**king cousins.

cool. you gonna leave if it happens?

So by his logic, Trey Lance must be fools gold too. Oh wait, were we suppose to buy in his 4th quarter performance or something??

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
darnold has always been decent during preseason go look at his numbers. He is fools fake gold and we know who that dude is and HE is the bust not Trey. And people in here calling that bust "Sammy" is f**king pathetic.

f**k sam darnold and f**k Shanahan if he goes with Darnold as QB2 w his 55 games of suck on his resume. It's insane and just as bad as his man crush on kirk f**king cousins.

cool. you gonna leave if it happens?

So by his logic, Trey Lance must be fools gold too. Oh wait, were we suppose to buy in his 4th quarter performance or something??

Trey Lance has 3 freaking starts dude. Darnold's scrub self has FIFTY FIVE starts. How you cannot comprehend the difference is unreal - but reading many of your posts I can understand.

No one has any idea if Trey is fools gold or not. He essentially has two starts so we aren't going to know for a long time since Brock is QB1 currently.