Drake Jackson-DE-USC, 2nd Round 2022 Draft

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

But Drake IS winning his matchups. The whole d line is. Notice how there are almost no completions over 20 yards against the defense? It's because the QB is being hurried on every pass and needs to get rid of it quick.

Yup...our win rate as a D-line is near 80%. Both Stafford and Jones, but especially Stafford were getting the ball out quick.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

But Drake IS winning his matchups. The whole d line is. Notice how there are almost no completions over 20 yards against the defense? It's because the QB is being hurried on every pass and needs to get rid of it quick.

Yup...our win rate as a D-line is near 80%. Both Stafford and Jones, but especially Stafford were getting the ball out quick.

ya both weeks qbs are getting rid of the ball under 2.5s

people need to understand how football works if the QB gets rid of the ball quickly you cant get sacks that doesn't mean the DL isn't doing their job in fact it shows the opposite

too many people focused on box score than actual play

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
didn't want to be a donnie downer after the 1st game hype but for now Drake is the clean up guy in our sack machine.... fine for now to use his motor to chase down QBs who get flushed out of the pocket by Bosa and Hargrave but he has to beat tackles 1 on 1 off the edge for him to level up... glad he is on our side but room to develop

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

But Drake IS winning his matchups. The whole d line is. Notice how there are almost no completions over 20 yards against the defense? It's because the QB is being hurried on every pass and needs to get rid of it quick.

Yup...our win rate as a D-line is near 80%. Both Stafford and Jones, but especially Stafford were getting the ball out quick.

ya both weeks qbs are getting rid of the ball under 2.5s

people need to understand how football works if the QB gets rid of the ball quickly you cant get sacks that doesn't mean the DL isn't doing their job in fact it shows the opposite

too many people focused on box score than actual play

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

But Drake IS winning his matchups. The whole d line is. Notice how there are almost no completions over 20 yards against the defense? It's because the QB is being hurried on every pass and needs to get rid of it quick.

Yup...our win rate as a D-line is near 80%. Both Stafford and Jones, but especially Stafford were getting the ball out quick.

ya both weeks qbs are getting rid of the ball under 2.5s

people need to understand how football works if the QB gets rid of the ball quickly you cant get sacks that doesn't mean the DL isn't doing their job in fact it shows the opposite

too many people focused on box score than actual play

I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Thank you, NC.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

I totally agree. We're one edge guy away from this being the best 49ers pass-rushing DL of my lifetime. That's one reason why I'm so critical of Drake Jackson. He has the potential to become that guy.

That said, those other 3 guys in Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave(HOLY f**k, what a pick up) are so good that I think they can carry us to winning a Superbowl.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
The last 2 weeks have shown why the context of those week 1 sacks mattered. Those types of low-quality sacks aren't sustainable and can't be relied upon. Drake is still struggling to win his one-on-ones. That's where the biggest growth will occur. I will note that continues to play with incredible effort, which is a testament to the strength and conditioning work he put in the offseason. He should be able to capitalize on clean up/effort opportunities if he maintains that type of effort. Let's hope he doesn't fade as the season goes on.

This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

One recent example of a guy having a lot of low quality sacks is Ziggy Ansah. Double digit sack guy that had many clean up type of sacks. If you read the boxscore, he was a baller. If you watch the tape, he was a beneficiary of his teammates/pressure scheme.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Thank you, NC.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

I totally agree. We're one edge guy away from this being the best 49ers pass-rushing DL of my lifetime. That's one reason why I'm so critical of Drake Jackson. He has the potential to become that guy.

That said, those other 3 guys in Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave(HOLY f**k, what a pick up) are so good that I think they can carry us to winning a Superbowl.

Yup. As much as I understand needing to roll over that money for future contracts in 2024, adding a guy who can win consistently or at least push the pocket would be a game changer.

We don't need it because of Bosa, AA, and Hargrave, but we also didn't technically need CMC. Now look at our offense.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Thank you, NC.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

I totally agree. We're one edge guy away from this being the best 49ers pass-rushing DL of my lifetime. That's one reason why I'm so critical of Drake Jackson. He has the potential to become that guy.

That said, those other 3 guys in Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave(HOLY f**k, what a pick up) are so good that I think they can carry us to winning a Superbowl.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hope you guys aren't talking about Heroism here. He's the equivalent to Brandon Thorn on the DL here. What he's saying in regards to Drake not winning his 1on1's has nothing to do with the end results of a play or the defense overall. This is and will continue to be an area of emphasis and watch. He's young and is still learning. Trust me, when he starts winning on a more regular basis you'll notice it and I'm sure Heroism would the first in here giving him props and outlining HOW he's winning.

Thank you, NC.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This is why I've been harping on Ferrell so much. I see exactly what you're seeing Drake, and I think we're looking at an all-time defense if we can get pressure from that other DE spot. So far, Drake and Ferrell are not replacing what we had with Ebukam, Omenihu, or even Arden Key inside.

I totally agree. We're one edge guy away from this being the best 49ers pass-rushing DL of my lifetime. That's one reason why I'm so critical of Drake Jackson. He has the potential to become that guy.

That said, those other 3 guys in Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave(HOLY f**k, what a pick up) are so good that I think they can carry us to winning a Superbowl.

Yup. As much as I understand needing to roll over that money for future contracts in 2024, adding a guy who can win consistently or at least push the pocket would be a game changer.

We don't need it because of Bosa, AA, and Hargrave, but we also didn't technically need CMC. Now look at our offense.

I think adding an Edge at the trade deadline would be more impactful than a vet CB. Although injuries to the DB room could change that.