Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Taken from Packers Reddit LOL

Originally posted by 49erminion:
Lance feels like Kap 3.0:

Decision Making: Lance by a bunch
Work Ethic: Lance by bunch
Mobility: Lance by a bunch
Pocket Presence: Lance by a bit
Arm Strength: Kap by a bit
Leadership: Lance by a bit
Touch/Placement: Lance by a bit
Toughness: Even
Accuracy: Even
Durability: Even
Straightline Speed: Even

Kaep was phenomenal at times but his short-comings bit us in the ass more often than liked. Let's hope the first three traits above are worth the cost!

I have some reservations about Lance but touch on his passes is considerably better than Kaepernick coming out of college. Kaepernick threw a one speed rocket ball regardless of whether he was throwing 5 yards away or 50 yards away. I think Lance is also quite a bit better working out of the pocket in the way he moves and evades pressure inside a phone booth area.

He's got a lot of stuff to work on and his accuracy tends to plummet the further he goes down the field so he's going to have to put a lot of work in to improve but by all accounts, he seems pretty willing and ready to do that. Where it took Kaepernick years to start working with a private QB coach consistently, Lance has already worked with several of them and will continue doing so. He's on the right track, just needs the time to make the necessary improvements. Being able to sit for a year with Garoppolo handling the starting QB duties and having smart coaches like Scangarello, McDaniel and Kyle to lean on will make his transition that much smoother.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Don't be surprised if he sit's not 1, but 2 years.

Lol he's not sitting 2 years, y'all delusional if he's not going too play football in 3 years. Stop acting like he's a freshman outta high school

it could happen. Were the Packers delusional to sit Rogers for 3 years?

Jimmy isn't Brett Farve and it isn't 20 years ago. It wont happen.

only time will tell, you can't say it won't happen when it's a decent chance of happening lol.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by 49erminion:
Lance feels like Kap 3.0:

Decision Making: Lance by a bunch
Work Ethic: Lance by bunch
Mobility: Lance by a bunch
Pocket Presence: Lance by a bit
Arm Strength: Kap by a bit
Leadership: Lance by a bit
Touch/Placement: Lance by a bit
Toughness: Even
Accuracy: Even
Durability: Even
Straightline Speed: Even

Kaep was phenomenal at times but his short-comings bit us in the ass more often than liked. Let's hope the first three traits above are worth the cost!

I don't know about these ratings. Most can't be graded until Lance actually plays a few games.

Kaps decision making stunk. He was his best when Harbaugh read the D and gave him insight right until the mic cut off. The play clock always went to zero.

Kap could throw a 94mph fastball, who cares. He had no touch on check downs(if he saw them), and any designed short pass had way too much zip on them. Looping a ball over a shoulder rarely happened.

Vision for me is the biggest, and Kap could not see the whole field. Again he was his best with Harbs as his eyes, Most off his passes were hooks to wrs coming back to him. Defensive coordinators figured him out after year 1.

He failed in 1st and goal in the SB. Some blame Roman, but Kap with all his speed and power had Ray "last stupid ride" Lewis between him and the goal line, and didn't try to run by him or through him. His mental game and leadership ability wasn't championship caliber.

The one area Kap struggled in was the quick rhythm passing game. He was a tick late on these types of throws, but would laser his throws to compensate - that sometimes worked. But couple that with his sporadic inaccuracy and it made Kap a QB that could not excel on those types of plays. Kap looked fine throwing intermediate. I like Lance's throwing motion more than Kap's, but have similar concerns over inaccuracy. Lance also throws with more touch imo.

It's up to Lance to prioritize the finer areas of QBing like footwork and mechanics over bench pressing and squats.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Don't be surprised if he sit's not 1, but 2 years.

Lol he's not sitting 2 years, y'all delusional if he's not going too play football in 3 years. Stop acting like he's a freshman outta high school

it could happen. Were the Packers delusional to sit Rogers for 3 years?

So you think Jimmy G is a generational QB, who is going to be allowed to play till he retires?

no, but he's above average and Lance is 20. Stop overacting, I'm not implying that at all.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by rathman4481:
There is no reason Trey can't compete for the job this year. The QB position has never been easier to play than it is now.

Shrink the playbook and get this kid some experience.

This.

Nope. Hold the clipboard and design some sub packages for him a la goal line plays. Only reason he plays significantly this year is if Jimmy gets hurt.

No, with an open competition, there's no reason why he can't earn the starting job - let him play.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by zero:

Someone said in an interview last night he said he wanted #9

I believe he said he wore 9 in high school and that was his dad's number too. Also named his dog Niner because of the love for #9. I like it. Unique number that makes me immediately think of Brees even though Lance and him are nothing alike. 5 belongs to Garcia and should stay that way.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Don't be surprised if he sit's not 1, but 2 years.

Lol he's not sitting 2 years, y'all delusional if he's not going too play football in 3 years. Stop acting like he's a freshman outta high school

it could happen. Were the Packers delusional to sit Rogers for 3 years?

Smh Rodgers fell to 24 and on top of that they had Favre. Rodgers wasn't the 3rd overall pick, completely different situation. Stop crying because Kyle and John weren't stupid enough to take Jones at 3 and be a realist

Crying? You need to work on your reading comprehension bud. 39k posts and you can't analyze a sentence.
I didn't want Jones either, not sure where you are getting that from?
I thought he would grab Fields for what it's worth.

Originally posted by thl408:
The one area Kap struggled in was the quick rhythm passing game. He was a tick late on these types of throws, but would laser his throws to compensate - that sometimes worked. But couple that with his sporadic inaccuracy and it made Kap a QB that could not excel on those types of plays. Kap looked fine throwing intermediate. I like Lance's throwing motion more than Kap's, but have similar concerns over inaccuracy. Lance also throws with more touch imo.

It's up to Lance to prioritize the finer areas of QBing like footwork and mechanics over bench pressing and squats.

Do you think some of the inaccuracy knocks could come from the FCS receivers he's throwing too as well? Not knocking the talent at all, but he isn't throwing to Ja'Marr Chase out there, or basically a WR that will make adjustments to the ball in the air. He still needs work on accuracy, that I'll agree too, but having much better wideouts will help with this as well.

I love seeing all these knee jerk reactions, hahaha!

Originally posted by IceMan1763:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
You can watch this video about the Championships in 2019. Lance was keeping Rushing yards to 30 ATT and 166 Yards, 1 TDs and 1 Fumbling. He had nothing to throw the balls to guys when he had Passing about 6/10, 72 years. Do you prefer him for Rushing yards than Passer Yards?!? Are you sure about it? I watched this video which made me frustrated and disappointed because he didn't pass the yard!

Let's just say that does not translate

I wouldn't read too much into the limited passing attempts for this game in particular. NDSU were actually slight underdogs in this game and I don't think the receivers were getting open much.

You didn't check the video for whole?! The Wide receivers and Tight End were open there. Lance can't read when he can't throw the balls because he was afraid of receiving them from the Ints?!?! If Lance wants to keep Rushing yards often and causes an injury. He will miss the whole games that we will suffer with him. I hate it who can't play games for risk injury from Rushing Yards! It is a fact! Lance needs to stay a pocker passing than a Rushing yards. He won't get injured if He must stay for Passer Yards. It is safer than injury from rushing yards!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by Jcool:

I'm told Jimmy Garoppolo asked for Trey Lance's number immediately after the pick to welcome him to the team.

If that doesn't say enough about the character of the people on this team, I don't know what does.#49ers

— Keiana Martin (@KeianaMartinTV) April 30, 2021

If true, then that is SO FREAKING AWESOME

Jimmy is a team guy, always has been. Hopefully pur offensive line is good enough to keep him upright this year, he took way too much of the blame for injuries when the middle of our line was a sieve last year.

With Jimmy and Kyle coaching Trey up, I disagree he'll take 2 years to compete with Jimmy. I think he'll be ready to compete next year. Treys game is inconsistent and rough, but its not anything like Mullens who had zip talent and practically zip experience in the pro-game.

I didn't say it would. Though it has been said that it takes a full year to learn Shanahan playbook well enough to execute it properly.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by 49erminion:
Lance feels like Kap 3.0:

Decision Making: Lance by a bunch
Work Ethic: Lance by bunch
Mobility: Lance by a bunch
Pocket Presence: Lance by a bit
Arm Strength: Kap by a bit
Leadership: Lance by a bit
Touch/Placement: Lance by a bit
Toughness: Even
Accuracy: Even
Durability: Even
Straightline Speed: Even

Kaep was phenomenal at times but his short-comings bit us in the ass more often than liked. Let's hope the first three traits above are worth the cost!

I don't know about these ratings. Most can't be graded until Lance actually plays a few games.

Kaps decision making stunk. He was his best when Harbaugh read the D and gave him insight right until the mic cut off. The play clock always went to zero.

Kap could throw a 94mph fastball, who cares. He had no touch on check downs(if he saw them), and any designed short pass had way too much zip on them. Looping a ball over a shoulder rarely happened.

Vision for me is the biggest, and Kap could not see the whole field. Again he was his best with Harbs as his eyes, Most off his passes were hooks to wrs coming back to him. Defensive coordinators figured him out after year 1.

He failed in 1st and goal in the SB. Some blame Roman, but Kap with all his speed and power had Ray "last stupid ride" Lewis between him and the goal line, and didn't try to run by him or through him. His mental game and leadership ability wasn't championship caliber.

The one area Kap struggled in was the quick rhythm passing game. He was a tick late on these types of throws, but would laser his throws to compensate - that sometimes worked. But couple that with his sporadic inaccuracy and it made Kap a QB that could not excel on those types of plays. Kap looked fine throwing intermediate. I like Lance's throwing motion more than Kap's, but have similar concerns over inaccuracy. Lance also throws with more touch imo.

It's up to Lance to prioritize the finer areas of QBing like footwork and mechanics over bench pressing and squats.

He is as raw as they can be, and he has a long way to go, but the future is bright for him and the 49ers. He has a lot of talent, and a lot of things have to go right for him to be ready in a year, but they key for me is Kyles genius. If anybody can get him up to NFL speed, its a guy who can design whole offensive systems on the fly, and has taken undrafted level talent to the NFL pro game in a year. I think Nick had a longer distance to travel than Trey, and Nick was ready in one year. Trey has a lot of catching up to do and is going to have to grind and study, I hope he can put the time and dedication in to be a good QB.

I still have nightmares from kaps lack of touch. I just never want a qb like kap again. That's why I initially didn't want lance. With that said. I think lance has better touch than kap and hope he can improve given the time. Kid just needs to learn that everything doesn't need to be a bullet.

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by thl408:
The one area Kap struggled in was the quick rhythm passing game. He was a tick late on these types of throws, but would laser his throws to compensate - that sometimes worked. But couple that with his sporadic inaccuracy and it made Kap a QB that could not excel on those types of plays. Kap looked fine throwing intermediate. I like Lance's throwing motion more than Kap's, but have similar concerns over inaccuracy. Lance also throws with more touch imo.

It's up to Lance to prioritize the finer areas of QBing like footwork and mechanics over bench pressing and squats.

Do you think some of the inaccuracy knocks could come from the FCS receivers he's throwing too as well? Not knocking the talent at all, but he isn't throwing to Ja'Marr Chase out there, or basically a WR that will make adjustments to the ball in the air. He still needs work on accuracy, that I'll agree too, but having much better wideouts will help with this as well.

You could say that affects his completion percentage, but not his accuracy. Making a receiver adjust to a pass is not being accurate.