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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Kyle Shanahan on 49ers QB1 role: "With Brock being hurt, (Trey Lance) has a chance to regain that."
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) March 28, 2023
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I agree that Purdy hasn't got the starting job locked up. No young QB can do that based on 6 or 7 starts. In the NFL you constantly have to prove yourself until it's obvious that you're the best. We've all seen QBs that look great for a few games or even for a couple of years but eventually fall off.
There are a lot of people that are convinced that Purdy will get even better while they are convinced Trey is a bust. Both guys have relatively small samples. I'm not convinced that Trey won't get better and become the starter any more than I am that Purdy will continue to play at a high level. I need to see more of each of them.
Ideally both guys will get better and we end up with a good starter and a quality backup. Maybe we end up trading one. Whatever, I'm looking forward to the pre season and the early games next season.
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by Koldo:Originally posted by tankle104:https://youtu.be/v959NkGsG0o
david Lombardi def reads our forum. Listen to the beginning lmao
Lombardi basically said Trey stans are embarrassing.
What's more embarrassing, people who think a young and talented QB the team selected after a big trade should be given a chance to compete for the job on an equal playing ground or guys who compete in mental gymnastics to bash the kid and call others "stans"?
The playing ground has been quite equal. Everybody has been given a chance ot two and the top two qbs will get more chances this year.
You I know so I'll engage.
This came up on my twitter feed this morning and goes along with what I've brought up here before but this adds a visual.
There is a lot of talk about Trey missing throws in a heavy rain game vs. Chicago. It sprinkled lightly vs. Seattle for a drive, and people act like this didn't happen. 🤷🏻♂️ pic.twitter.com/uFXaGGsgPb
— Jessie🎙 (@JNay_LSS) March 28, 2023
This is not me diminishing what Brock did, we all know how well he played in that game especially the rest of the way BUT it did give us a glimpse of Brock playing in poor conditions and it resulted in few very ugly passes and misses by Brock that we saw him make routinely in other games.
So is the logic of people who think Lance's game in Chicago when the weather was 10x worse and the OL had one of their worst games of the year...wasn't a "playing ground being equal" as far as evaluations go. Why is that a hard thing to come to grasp with?
I mean if we're looking at Seattle game alone. CMC had 136 total yards and 3 TDs. Mitchell had a TD as well.
Some of us simply want to see the guys compete under the same conditions. If Brock moves the offense that much better as we saw last year then I'm confident all or at least most of us will stop asking for Trey to get a chance.
But when you're comparing Brock getting to play in a seasoned roster that was mid big win streak after a critical mid season trade and his one start in poor conditions showed some of his worst throws and Trey's 1 full start in way worse conditions where the team played poorly across the board, no Kittle, no CMC and Mitchell was injured early in the game. Is that really a fair comparison of the two?
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Ypu and Kyle see him differently, Kyle called him the real deal and ypu are calling him an injured QB who has question marks.
He earned more than 170 reps as the starter assuming he is the guy in week 1.
Love how you just pick certain words. I said he played well. He is now injured and got hurt multiple times. You're so black and white about that in here…so apply it to him all the same. Yes there was some question marks down the stretch, he's a rookie there's gonna be. Overall he played damn good though.
If he plays s**tty for his next 170 passing attempts, why has he earned more than that? Past performance shouldn't dictate all that imo. If he's playing bad over a similar stretch then changes should be made all the same. I know you would say it if it was the other way around.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Kyle Shanahan on 49ers QB1 role: "With Brock being hurt, (Trey Lance) has a chance to regain that."
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) March 28, 2023
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Originally posted by genus49:
You I know so I'll engage.
This came up on my twitter feed this morning and goes along with what I've brought up here before but this adds a visual.
There is a lot of talk about Trey missing throws in a heavy rain game vs. Chicago. It sprinkled lightly vs. Seattle for a drive, and people act like this didn't happen. 🤷🏻♂️ pic.twitter.com/uFXaGGsgPb
— Jessie🎙 (@JNay_LSS) March 28, 2023
This is not me diminishing what Brock did, we all know how well he played in that game especially the rest of the way BUT it did give us a glimpse of Brock playing in poor conditions and it resulted in few very ugly passes and misses by Brock that we saw him make routinely in other games.
So is the logic of people who think Lance's game in Chicago when the weather was 10x worse and the OL had one of their worst games of the year...wasn't a "playing ground being equal" as far as evaluations go. Why is that a hard thing to come to grasp with?
I mean if we're looking at Seattle game alone. CMC had 136 total yards and 3 TDs. Mitchell had a TD as well.
Some of us simply want to see the guys compete under the same conditions. If Brock moves the offense that much better as we saw last year then I'm confident all or at least most of us will stop asking for Trey to get a chance.
But when you're comparing Brock getting to play in a seasoned roster that was mid big win streak after a critical mid season trade and his one start in poor conditions showed some of his worst throws and Trey's 1 full start in way worse conditions where the team played poorly across the board, no Kittle, no CMC and Mitchell was injured early in the game. Is that really a fair comparison of the two?
Originally posted by Heroism:
Trey will be sharing first team reps with Sam Darnold.
Originally posted by tankle104:
How much do you think we would pay a 3rd string qb? At most? Vet min. Most likely? It'll be a rookie we draft, we've already had pre draft visits because Kyle likes to draft young guys and have them in the stable.
But yes, it would cost us more money but obviously if we trade Lance - it wouldn't be for money savings. Trading or keeping him would cost around the same.
If he's traded, which I think a majority of people understand that's a big if, it would be what we get in return draft pick/player wise.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I am not black and white at all. You are the guy who said that running the qb more doesn't increase chances for injury because "All QBs get hurt". That's black and white thinking.
What QBs in the NFL don't have question marks?
He has earned more than 170 pass attempts because of what he has proven.
What is bad or s**tty play thst should cost him the starting job (assuming he gets it)?
Originally posted by NYniner85:it's time for the best QB to play.. even if it's darnold
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I am not black and white at all. You are the guy who said that running the qb more doesn't increase chances for injury because "All QBs get hurt". That's black and white thinking.
What QBs in the NFL don't have question marks?
He has earned more than 170 pass attempts because of what he has proven.
What is bad or s**tty play thst should cost him the starting job (assuming he gets it)?
Dude you're the most black and white poster on this site lol. You never bring nuance to the discussion. It's he's hurt so he's injury prone. He's good because they win games. No context.
im told we can't develop a young QB on this roster "because we're trying to win a Super Bowl" yet that's exactly what we're doing lol. So if Brock doesn't maintain a 7.6 TD % or his INT % increases. Then what? He's allowed to "develop" and play though his ups/downs on a "Super Bowl Roster" because of 170 passing attempts from a year ago? Seriously? I'll disagree there.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Trey will be sharing first team reps with Sam Darnold.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Trey will be sharing first team reps with Sam Darnold.
