Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You just admitted that someone was happy Jimmy got hurt (which I saw as well), but it's unfathomable to believe someone was happy Trey got hurt?

So basically your claim goes from 'countless people' were happy about injury to maybe someone was cuz it's not unfathomable.. pretty weak.

No one is cheering injury dude. If you see it call it out.. it's not common and pretty sick imo.

Nobody openly celebrated when Trey was injured, but there were several posts from people saying things like "now we may have a chance to win" and "the season may have just been saved". Maybe you missed them, but I definitely didn't.

Pretty sure on the tv broadcast when it happened they mentioned JG is a guy obviously who knows our stuff and gives us a chance to win. That's not at all to be interpreted as 'countless ppl extremely happy' TL got hurt, which was WBs words. Let's get real.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Nobody openly celebrated when Trey was injured, but there were several posts from people saying things like "now we may have a chance to win" and "the season may have just been saved". Maybe you missed them, but I definitely didn't.

Tons of those posts.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Nah thats not true at all. Its absolutely fine to question his abilities until he shows it. Its the constant "he is never going to be good" or "we wont make the playoffs with Trey" type comments that get classified as hate.

Also, being critical is fine when its warranted too. But lets point out the facts about the Bears game which people are forming their opinions on Trey from:

-It was raining
-No George Kittle
-Elijah Mitchell got hurt early on (obviously no CMC)
-Three first year starters on the OL making their first starts

So now I ask you.....how fair is it to really criticize Trey Lance for this game given those circumstances? That is why people call criticism of Lance "hate" because logic should tell you he should get a bit of a pass for that game.

I was excited to see the kid play to be honest. Like every other 49er fan I was disappointed by the results in Chicago, but chalk that up to Game 1 jitters. Chalk it up to a road start. Chalk it up to the weather or a whole host of other factors.

It took a full season before the greatest 49er QB of all time, Joe Montana, became the GOAT. He played some absolutely HORRIFIC games in that 1980 season. He also had a few "lights out" performances that told me he was going to be good. But that was just a few. There were other games where he looked positively lost. Positively awful. Positively "not the guy."

Trey's biggest problem is none other than Brock Purdy. Because the moment that kid stepped on the field he was LIGHTS OUT. He didn't turn out a stinker of a performance. He was great from the word GO. The only think that stopped him was a torn up elbow. And, you know what? NOT HIS FAULT! So, I personally believe Trey will get another shot next season. I don't think Brock will be 100-percent ready to go by the first game.

Unfortunately, for Trey at least, the moment he throws an interception, or loses a fumble, or turns in a less than stellar game, fans on the Webzone are going to be screaming for Purdy. He's just a kid. But he casts a darn big shadow now.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You just admitted that someone was happy Jimmy got hurt (which I saw as well), but it's unfathomable to believe someone was happy Trey got hurt?

So basically your claim goes from 'countless people' were happy about injury to maybe someone was cuz it's not unfathomable.. pretty weak.

No one is cheering injury dude. If you see it call it out.. it's not common and pretty sick imo.

Nobody openly celebrated when Trey was injured, but there were several posts from people saying things like "now we may have a chance to win" and "the season may have just been saved". Maybe you missed them, but I definitely didn't.

Pretty sure on the tv broadcast when it happened they mentioned JG is a guy obviously who knows our stuff and gives us a chance to win. That's not at all to be interpreted as 'countless ppl extremely happy' TL got hurt, which was WBs words. Let's get real.

No, come on man. It wasn't in the context of us having a capable backup, it was in the context of a better QB coming to save the season TL was about to lose, if not for his injury. You know it and I do, stop playing coy.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
No, come on man. It wasn't in the context of us having a capable backup, it was in the context of a better QB coming to save the season TL was about to lose, if not for his injury. You know it and I do, stop playing coy.

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pretty sure on the tv broadcast when it happened they mentioned JG is a guy obviously who knows our stuff and gives us a chance to win. That's not at all to be interpreted as 'countless ppl extremely happy' TL got hurt, which was WBs words. Let's get real.

Who cares what some TV broadcast says…we're talking about OUR FANS. People that are suppose to support their young players. Not s**t on them after playing 4QRs and breaking their ankle. How that all of a sudden turned into the season was "saved" or Lance is done here…is beyond me. SF made a decision to make him the starter. Not Jimmy.

In reality the only people going that route were the people that couldn't keep it real with what Jimmy was and understood why the team wanted to move off him. It's always comes back to some people being so emotional about him, being threaten of any QB taking his spot or anyone casting doubt about him after multiple years playing here.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
No, come on man. It wasn't in the context of us having a capable backup, it was in the context of a better QB coming to save the season TL was about to lose, if not for his injury. You know it and I do, stop playing coy.

It's always coy

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You just admitted that someone was happy Jimmy got hurt (which I saw as well), but it's unfathomable to believe someone was happy Trey got hurt?

So basically your claim goes from 'countless people' were happy about injury to maybe someone was cuz it's not unfathomable.. pretty weak.

No one is cheering injury dude. If you see it call it out.. it's not common and pretty sick imo.

The guy that is claiming that people were cheering an injury is one of the three guys on here that claim someone said something with no proof but also deny everything they say when they are wrong. They think they are right about everything and their opinion is the only thing that matters. Also be careful cause they will hit the report button on you.

but it's hilarious they have some random guy trying to defend them against you lol

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Nah thats not true at all. Its absolutely fine to question his abilities until he shows it. Its the constant "he is never going to be good" or "we wont make the playoffs with Trey" type comments that get classified as hate.

Also, being critical is fine when its warranted too. But lets point out the facts about the Bears game which people are forming their opinions on Trey from:

-It was raining
-No George Kittle
-Elijah Mitchell got hurt early on (obviously no CMC)
-Three first year starters on the OL making their first starts

So now I ask you.....how fair is it to really criticize Trey Lance for this game given those circumstances? That is why people call criticism of Lance "hate" because logic should tell you he should get a bit of a pass for that game.

I was excited to see the kid play to be honest. Like every other 49er fan I was disappointed by the results in Chicago, but chalk that up to Game 1 jitters. Chalk it up to a road start. Chalk it up to the weather or a whole host of other factors.

It took a full season before the greatest 49er QB of all time, Joe Montana, became the GOAT. He played some absolutely HORRIFIC games in that 1980 season. He also had a few "lights out" performances that told me he was going to be good. But that was just a few. There were other games where he looked positively lost. Positively awful. Positively "not the guy."

Trey's biggest problem is none other than Brock Purdy. Because the moment that kid stepped on the field he was LIGHTS OUT. He didn't turn out a stinker of a performance. He was great from the word GO. The only think that stopped him was a torn up elbow. And, you know what? NOT HIS FAULT! So, I personally believe Trey will get another shot next season. I don't think Brock will be 100-percent ready to go by the first game.

Unfortunately, for Trey at least, the moment he throws an interception, or loses a fumble, or turns in a less than stellar game, fans on the Webzone are going to be screaming for Purdy. He's just a kid. But he casts a darn big shadow now.

I agree with you that Brock was amazing when he first got here. But going back to my point, Brock had a lot of major advantages going for him the first game he took over for Jimmy that Trey absolutely didnt have. Deebo was back to being Deebo. We had Christian FREAKIN Mccaffrey. 3/5 of our offensive line werent making their first starts. George Kittle was healthy and playing. It wasnt pouring rain. We were playing at home.

Look, I dont want to make this out to me not being thrilled with how Brock played. I was. I love Brock and think he could be special if he recovers. All I am saying is there were many things working against Trey in the one game he played this season, none of which Brock had to deal with. That's all.

Originally posted by Jcool:
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He's saying we had no chance to win football games this yr with Lance and Jimmy was the only way to win a Super Bowl.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
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He's saying we had no chance to win football games this yr with Lance and Jimmy was the only way to win a Super Bowl.

Not just the Super Bowl, the season itself. Many didn't think Trey could even get us to the playoffs.

Check the PYMWYMI thread of season predictions when Trey was the starter.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
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He's saying we had no chance to win football games this yr with Lance and Jimmy was the only way to win a Super Bowl.

He had a lead in Seattle

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I agree with you that Brock was amazing when he first got here. But going back to my point, Brock had a lot of major advantages going for him the first game he took over for Jimmy that Trey absolutely didnt have. Deebo was back to being Deebo. We had Christian FREAKIN Mccaffrey. 3/5 of our offensive line werent making their first starts. George Kittle was healthy and playing. It wasnt pouring rain. We were playing at home.

Look, I dont want to make this out to me not being thrilled with how Brock played. I was. I love Brock and think he could be special if he recovers. All I am saying is there were many things working against Trey in the one game he played this season, none of which Brock had to deal with. That's all.

Do we think if Brock played week 1 that he would have don't worlds better? I most certainly don't.

I think more than anything what Brock should is that Jimmy was overrated in here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pretty sure on the tv broadcast when it happened they mentioned JG is a guy obviously who knows our stuff and gives us a chance to win. That's not at all to be interpreted as 'countless ppl extremely happy' TL got hurt, which was WBs words. Let's get real.

Who cares what some TV broadcast says…we're talking about OUR FANS. People that are suppose to support their young players. Not s**t on them after playing 4QRs and breaking their ankle. How that all of a sudden turned into the season was "saved" or Lance is done here…is beyond me. SF made a decision to make him the starter. Not Jimmy.

In reality the only people going that route were the people that couldn't keep it real with what Jimmy was and understood why the team wanted to move off him. It's always comes back to some people being so emotional about him, being threaten of any QB taking his spot or anyone casting doubt about him after multiple years playing here.

Oh stop belly aching. Jimmy fans do not hate Lance because Lance started instead of Jimmy this year. But people were expressing they were not impressed by Lance's performance when he did play. That is a legitimate take given he did not make more that 50 percent completions this year. Had a low QB rating, did not look like an NFL starter and so on. That does not mean they hated Lance. That means they were not impressed by his performance. Lance tragics made all the excused in the world and in particular said he should be given time to develop. But Purdy came out balling and won everything but the game his elbow got torn. Face it Lance is not an NFL caliber ready player and the 9ers are not going to waste SB roster on a kid who has not played but a handful of games in 3 years.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
I was excited to see the kid play to be honest. Like every other 49er fan I was disappointed by the results in Chicago, but chalk that up to Game 1 jitters. Chalk it up to a road start. Chalk it up to the weather or a whole host of other factors.

It took a full season before the greatest 49er QB of all time, Joe Montana, became the GOAT. He played some absolutely HORRIFIC games in that 1980 season. He also had a few "lights out" performances that told me he was going to be good. But that was just a few. There were other games where he looked positively lost. Positively awful. Positively "not the guy."

Trey's biggest problem is none other than Brock Purdy. Because the moment that kid stepped on the field he was LIGHTS OUT. He didn't turn out a stinker of a performance. He was great from the word GO. The only think that stopped him was a torn up elbow. And, you know what? NOT HIS FAULT! So, I personally believe Trey will get another shot next season. I don't think Brock will be 100-percent ready to go by the first game.

Unfortunately, for Trey at least, the moment he throws an interception, or loses a fumble, or turns in a less than stellar game, fans on the Webzone are going to be screaming for Purdy. He's just a kid. But he casts a darn big shadow now.

Every pundit kept telling us that we were at a QB deficit and predicted us to lose because of the QB but we kept winning until he got hurt. Ever since we lost Jeff Garcia we've been discounted because of the QB position

I'm yearning for the day when we are not discredited because of our QB. I'm eagerly awaiting that franchise cornerstone QB which is what Kyle and John drafted Trey to be. That's why I'm pulling for both he and Brock and whoever else we bring in because I'm tired of all the yapping that goes on annually around our QB position