Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:

that talking point also dictates a player cant really improve from draft to debut.

And I never said that. I said his measureables and arm talent is a reason why he dropped. That's not made up…never said he couldn't improve or be the next Brees.

I don't get the Brees comps. Dude is so mobile.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Brock's 10 yard split and 20 yard split are equivalent to Deshaun Watson. Watson is more agile, but Brock has a stronger arm.

Compare to Drew Brees, Brock is much more mobile and probably has a stronger arm too.

Now compare everything else lol. There's a reason he was the last pick in the draft dude. Stop it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
that talking point also dictates a player cant really improve from draft to debut.

And I never said that. I said his measureables and arm talent is a reason why he dropped. That's not made up…never said he couldn't improve or be the next Brees.

Here is the comparison with Drew Brees
Height: Tie
Weight: Tie
Arm length: Brees
Hand span: Brees
40 yard dash: Tie
10 yard split: Purdy
20 yard split: Purdy
20 yard shuttle: Brees
3 cone drill: Brees
Vertifcal Jump: Brees
Arm strength: Purdy

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
that talking point also dictates a player cant really improve from draft to debut.

And I never said that. I said his measureables and arm talent is a reason why he dropped. That's not made up…never said he couldn't improve or be the next Brees.

I don't get the Brees comps. Dude is so mobile.

The comp was, Purdy can be a mobile Drew Brees.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
There is nothing wrong in saying that. It is true. Just because he can't get any better without playing doesn't mean the team should be wasting the Super Bowl window with him at QB.

What's true is that you setup a scenario where he can't succeed in your eyes because you don't want him to. Unless he turns into Mahomes right out the gate then you'd have no choice.

What are you even talking about? Are you saying we don't want Trey to succeed? This is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
you have no idea if he played a year of football would be wasting a yr…clearly the team didn't think that by playing him this yr.

Who said Kyle wasn't planning to benched him at some point during the season unless he showed remarkable improvement?

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Brock's 10 yard split and 20 yard split are equivalent to Deshaun Watson. Watson is more agile, but Brock has a stronger arm.

Compare to Drew Brees, Brock is much more mobile and probably has a stronger arm too.

Now compare everything else lol. There's a reason he was the last pick in the draft dude. Stop it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
that talking point also dictates a player cant really improve from draft to debut.

And I never said that. I said his measureables and arm talent is a reason why he dropped. That's not made up…never said he couldn't improve or be the next Brees.

Here is the comparison with Drew Brees
Height: Tie
Weight: Tie
Arm length: Brees
Hand span: Brees
40 yard dash: Tie
10 yard split: Purdy
20 yard split: Purdy
20 yard shuttle: Brees
3 cone drill: Brees
Vertifcal Jump: Brees
Arm strength: Purdy

He does not have a stronger arm and he's not as accurate.

I could toss out measurables comparable to Case Keenum, Brett Rypien or baker mayfield all the same.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Brock's 10 yard split and 20 yard split are equivalent to Deshaun Watson. Watson is more agile, but Brock has a stronger arm.

Compare to Drew Brees, Brock is much more mobile and probably has a stronger arm too.

Now compare everything else lol. There's a reason he was the last pick in the draft dude. Stop it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
that talking point also dictates a player cant really improve from draft to debut.

And I never said that. I said his measureables and arm talent is a reason why he dropped. That's not made up…never said he couldn't improve or be the next Brees.

Here is the comparison with Drew Brees
Height: Tie
Weight: Tie
Arm length: Brees
Hand span: Brees
40 yard dash: Tie
10 yard split: Purdy
20 yard split: Purdy
20 yard shuttle: Brees
3 cone drill: Brees
Vertifcal Jump: Brees
Arm strength: Purdy

Me trying to figure out my hand span rn...

Originally posted by libertyforever:
What are you even talking about? Are you saying we don't want Trey to succeed? This is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
you have no idea if he played a year of football would be wasting a yr…clearly the team didn't think that by playing him this yr.

Who said Kyle wasn't planning to benched him at some point during the season unless he showed remarkable improvement?

Yes I saying exactly that.

lol now you're making up what ifs to gaslight..tried trading Jimmy and Lance was the starter all through camp and into the season. That is fact. They CLEARLY think enough of him to give up years of 1sts and start him on a Super Bowl roster. The only way Brock was sniffing the field this yr was because of injury.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Me trying to figure out my hand span rn...

Hahahahahaha

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He does not have a stronger arm and he's not as accurate.

I could toss out measurables comparable to Case Keenum, Brett Rypien or baker mayfield all the same.

He does have a stronger arm in throwing velocity.

Not sure what is the point in comparing measurables to less successful QB. We are discussing potential limited by physical and athletism. I believe a mobile Drew Brees is a high enough ceiling.

There are a lot of QB with great measurables who are busts. Do you want to compare that to Trey? What is the point?

So if you have a high upside qb the only time you should play him is when the team is terrible.

Titans haven't gotten that memo

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Me trying to figure out my hand span rn...

measure from thumb to pinky like below. and if you have an iPhone, the stock iOS measurement app is actually pretty accurate.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
What are you even talking about? Are you saying we don't want Trey to succeed? This is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
you have no idea if he played a year of football would be wasting a yr…clearly the team didn't think that by playing him this yr.

Who said Kyle wasn't planning to benched him at some point during the season unless he showed remarkable improvement?

Yes I saying exactly that.

lol now you're making up what ifs to gaslight..tried trading Jimmy and Lance was the starter all through camp and into the season. That is fact. They CLEARLY think enough of him to give up years of 1sts and start him on a Super Bowl roster. The only way Brock was sniffing the field this yr was because of injury.

The reason there are busts is because scouting and projecting player development is not an exact science. That is why what the team scouts and coaching staffs thought of Trey 2 years ago is not that relevant, because they can be wrong.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
I'll say it. He's Jimmy G with maybe an ability to stretch the field more or a Tannehill. He's no Brees. Ill gladly be wrong.

So we are now allowed to label 22 year old QBs with 4 or less starts? Funny how that works

As comparable to saying 185 yards and 211 yards is Drew Brees? I think his strengths are very similar to Jimmys but as I said maybe a bigger vertical threat. I've also seen some dropped Jimmy bonehead passes that were luckily dropped.

To be clear, saying he's possibly Jimmy+ is not a negative. Jimmy is a top 12 QB when he's rarely healthy. Problem is Jimmy has limitations and I think Brock will eventually be game planned against and his will be exposed too. I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdy skyrocket then somewhat flatline like he did in college,. Back to Trey, while I think Treys trajectory may be a lot more gradual and slower, at the end I think he coul result in passing Purdy at far as talent with room to grow.

With that said, you're right. It's a little over 2 games and right now this is unsubstantiated opinion. It's obviously far too early to tell. I have no problem admitting I very well could be wrong. And truth be told maybe after rooting for guys like Alex, Kap, and Jimmy non-stop and them never getting over the hump of top echelon, maybe I've become pessimistic and senile in my older days lol.

It's the Lance thread. Not the Purdy thread. Not he Jimmy thread. Stay on subject.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I don't get the Brees comps. Dude is so mobile.

Brrees was really athletic for a QB, I don't get where the notion came from that he was a statue. Dude was a top tennis player in Texas, beating Andy Roddick several times, he was a star in basketball, football and baseball in high school. He was good enough that some colleges offered him to come play basketball. He definitely lost some mobility as he got older but he was always a pretty agile guy that knew how to move around in a crowded pocket and get away from defenders.