Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No team is a Super Bowl or bust team. The goal every year regardless of the franchise is to get to the playoffs. After that it's anyone's game.

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No team is a Super Bowl or bust team. The goal every year regardless of the franchise is to get to the playoffs. After that it's anyone's game.

X1000. I laugh out loud when people say losing a super bowl or nfccg makes the season unsuccessful.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No team is a Super Bowl or bust team. The goal every year regardless of the franchise is to get to the playoffs. After that it's anyone's game.

X1000. I laugh out loud when people say losing a super bowl or nfccg makes the season unsuccessful.

Jed disagrees.

Obviously it's a really successful season but anytime you up come up short, it's unsuccessful for 31 teams. Especially for us...with our roster and expectations.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by KiwiM:
Everyone knew Trey Lance was a project.

Then they turn around and expect him to be a finished product with 2 NFL games under his belt.

Patience people.

When you use 3 1sts and a 3rd to draft a player, the expectations should be rightfully high

Agreed, but those expectations also require patience.

You can't expect big things from a QB who only has two starts under his belts through his career. Let's at least give him a full season before deciding If he was worth all that draft capital we Invested.

I'm saying for that much capital it should have been a day 1 starter. That's not what you spend on a project. It was foolish, but I hope it works out.

You spend that on a project if the project hits.

Will find out in years 3/4 whether it hits.

For a fan base that hasn't seen a title for over 25 years, some of you guys are sure lenient with the word "patience". I was a freshman in high school when the Niners last won a SB. I'm sick of waiting and I agree with mattster. This team is built to win now! We're not the NY Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars, ready to wait 5 years to hopefully build a legitimate roster that can dominate for years to come. Both the Seahawks and Rams have won titles this century. We haven't. So personally I won't have that much patience with Trey. I agree like most posters that Jimmy wasn't good enough. But I'm not sold on Lance and if we were going to give up all that capital to acquire a project, I'd rather we used it to trade for a proven talent in the league. If McVay made it happen with Stafford, then why couldn't we ? I mean, hell, we gave up 3 first rounders !

How much patience do you have with the O line? Because they aren't built to win now. It is going to take a few months to a year for both Trey and the O line to build enough experience before we should even consider having SB aspirations.

amen bro. I don't think many posters will agree or have the patience. But I'm with you.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by krizay:
You are gloating about your guy making the playoffs and pro bowl in a Trey Lance thread when the QB I wanted did that in his rookie year.

Glad you're not the decision maker. I could
see Mac at 12 but NOT at 3!

I never wanted to move up at all period. So if I was the decision maker we would have still been at 12. Or possibly a slight trade up. No way I would have given up 3 1sts for any of the QBs.

EDIT: I personally would loved to see where Trey would have went if we didn't take him. We'll never know obviously

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by KiwiM:
Everyone knew Trey Lance was a project.

Then they turn around and expect him to be a finished product with 2 NFL games under his belt.

Patience people.

When you use 3 1sts and a 3rd to draft a player, the expectations should be rightfully high

Agreed, but those expectations also require patience.

You can't expect big things from a QB who only has two starts under his belts through his career. Let's at least give him a full season before deciding If he was worth all that draft capital we Invested.

I'm saying for that much capital it should have been a day 1 starter. That's not what you spend on a project. It was foolish, but I hope it works out.

You spend that on a project if the project hits.

Will find out in years 3/4 whether it hits.

For a fan base that hasn't seen a title for over 25 years, some of you guys are sure lenient with the word "patience". I was a freshman in high school when the Niners last won a SB. I'm sick of waiting and I agree with mattster. This team is built to win now! We're not the NY Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars, ready to wait 5 years to hopefully build a legitimate roster that can dominate for years to come. Both the Seahawks and Rams have won titles this century. We haven't. So personally I won't have that much patience with Trey. I agree like most posters that Jimmy wasn't good enough. But I'm not sold on Lance and if we were going to give up all that capital to acquire a project, I'd rather we used it to trade for a proven talent in the league. If McVay made it happen with Stafford, then why couldn't we ? I mean, hell, we gave up 3 first rounders !

How much patience do you have with the O line? Because they aren't built to win now. It is going to take a few months to a year for both Trey and the O line to build enough experience before we should even consider having SB aspirations.

amen bro. I don't think many posters will agree or have the patience. But I'm with you.

Same!

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't have traded up either for Trey Lance. I would've tried to trade for Stafford or even get stop-gap Matt Ryan. Then continue to fill holes then draft a QB in the 1st round in 2023 or 2024.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by KiwiM:
Everyone knew Trey Lance was a project.

Then they turn around and expect him to be a finished product with 2 NFL games under his belt.

Patience people.

When you use 3 1sts and a 3rd to draft a player, the expectations should be rightfully high

Agreed, but those expectations also require patience.

You can't expect big things from a QB who only has two starts under his belts through his career. Let's at least give him a full season before deciding If he was worth all that draft capital we Invested.

I'm saying for that much capital it should have been a day 1 starter. That's not what you spend on a project. It was foolish, but I hope it works out.

You spend that on a project if the project hits.

Will find out in years 3/4 whether it hits.

For a fan base that hasn't seen a title for over 25 years, some of you guys are sure lenient with the word "patience". I was a freshman in high school when the Niners last won a SB. I'm sick of waiting and I agree with mattster. This team is built to win now! We're not the NY Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars, ready to wait 5 years to hopefully build a legitimate roster that can dominate for years to come. Both the Seahawks and Rams have won titles this century. We haven't. So personally I won't have that much patience with Trey. I agree like most posters that Jimmy wasn't good enough. But I'm not sold on Lance and if we were going to give up all that capital to acquire a project, I'd rather we used it to trade for a proven talent in the league. If McVay made it happen with Stafford, then why couldn't we ? I mean, hell, we gave up 3 first rounders !

How much patience do you have with the O line? Because they aren't built to win now. It is going to take a few months to a year for both Trey and the O line to build enough experience before we should even consider having SB aspirations.

amen bro. I don't think many posters will agree or have the patience. But I'm with you.

Same!

I'm here to say I'm mildly concerned about the O-line, but I'm expecting a middle-of-the-pack O-line anyway (better in run blocking than pass blocking). I expect lots of blown assignments and short drives. But I also expect our defense and ST to outperform their counterparts on their teams.

We probably won't win with tons of offense, but I do expect a winning season.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by KiwiM:
Everyone knew Trey Lance was a project.

Then they turn around and expect him to be a finished product with 2 NFL games under his belt.

Patience people.

When you use 3 1sts and a 3rd to draft a player, the expectations should be rightfully high

Agreed, but those expectations also require patience.

You can't expect big things from a QB who only has two starts under his belts through his career. Let's at least give him a full season before deciding If he was worth all that draft capital we Invested.

I'm saying for that much capital it should have been a day 1 starter. That's not what you spend on a project. It was foolish, but I hope it works out.

You spend that on a project if the project hits.

Will find out in years 3/4 whether it hits.

For a fan base that hasn't seen a title for over 25 years, some of you guys are sure lenient with the word "patience". I was a freshman in high school when the Niners last won a SB. I'm sick of waiting and I agree with mattster. This team is built to win now! We're not the NY Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars, ready to wait 5 years to hopefully build a legitimate roster that can dominate for years to come. Both the Seahawks and Rams have won titles this century. We haven't. So personally I won't have that much patience with Trey. I agree like most posters that Jimmy wasn't good enough. But I'm not sold on Lance and if we were going to give up all that capital to acquire a project, I'd rather we used it to trade for a proven talent in the league. If McVay made it happen with Stafford, then why couldn't we ? I mean, hell, we gave up 3 first rounders !

How much patience do you have with the O line? Because they aren't built to win now. It is going to take a few months to a year for both Trey and the O line to build enough experience before we should even consider having SB aspirations.

amen bro. I don't think many posters will agree or have the patience. But I'm with you.

Same!

I'm here to say I'm mildly concerned about the O-line, but I'm expecting a middle-of-the-pack O-line anyway (better in run blocking than pass blocking). I expect lots of blown assignments and short drives. But I also expect our defense and ST to outperform their counterparts on their teams.

We probably won't win with tons of offense, but I do expect a winning season.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by KiwiM:
Everyone knew Trey Lance was a project.

Then they turn around and expect him to be a finished product with 2 NFL games under his belt.

Patience people.

When you use 3 1sts and a 3rd to draft a player, the expectations should be rightfully high

Agreed, but those expectations also require patience.

You can't expect big things from a QB who only has two starts under his belts through his career. Let's at least give him a full season before deciding If he was worth all that draft capital we Invested.

I'm saying for that much capital it should have been a day 1 starter. That's not what you spend on a project. It was foolish, but I hope it works out.

You spend that on a project if the project hits.

Will find out in years 3/4 whether it hits.

For a fan base that hasn't seen a title for over 25 years, some of you guys are sure lenient with the word "patience". I was a freshman in high school when the Niners last won a SB. I'm sick of waiting and I agree with mattster. This team is built to win now! We're not the NY Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars, ready to wait 5 years to hopefully build a legitimate roster that can dominate for years to come. Both the Seahawks and Rams have won titles this century. We haven't. So personally I won't have that much patience with Trey. I agree like most posters that Jimmy wasn't good enough. But I'm not sold on Lance and if we were going to give up all that capital to acquire a project, I'd rather we used it to trade for a proven talent in the league. If McVay made it happen with Stafford, then why couldn't we ? I mean, hell, we gave up 3 first rounders !

How much patience do you have with the O line? Because they aren't built to win now. It is going to take a few months to a year for both Trey and the O line to build enough experience before we should even consider having SB aspirations.

amen bro. I don't think many posters will agree or have the patience. But I'm with you.

Same!

I'm here to say I'm mildly concerned about the O-line, but I'm expecting a middle-of-the-pack O-line anyway (better in run blocking than pass blocking). I expect lots of blown assignments and short drives. But I also expect our defense and ST to outperform their counterparts on their teams.

We probably won't win with tons of offense, but I do expect a winning season.

The problem is that if pp turns out to be very poor, folks will be in here bashing Trey because he isn't transcending a poor O line. Trey needs time to develop. That is time in the pocket and experience over an extended period of time in running this offense.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The problem is that if pp turns out to be very poor, folks will be in here bashing Trey because he isn't transcending a poor O line. Trey needs time to develop. That is time in the pocket and experience over an extended period of time in running this offense.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hands down, my #1 concern (for Trey).

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't have traded up either for Trey Lance. I would've tried to trade for Stafford or even get stop-gap Matt Ryan. Then continue to fill holes then draft a QB in the 1st round in 2023 or 2024.

Nothing they could do on Stafford. Was gone before he was even on the market.

If you have Ryan then you probably win a lot in 2021 and 2022. So the pick you have in 2023 is a later 1st rounder. Are you sure you get a guy you want in the later 1st?

I didn't like the trade up myself either from a value standpoint but I also don't know that Tanner McKee or someone of that ilk is a better option going forward.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't have traded up either for Trey Lance. I would've tried to trade for Stafford or even get stop-gap Matt Ryan. Then continue to fill holes then draft a QB in the 1st round in 2023 or 2024.

Nothing they could do on Stafford. Was gone before he was even on the market.

If you have Ryan then you probably win a lot in 2021 and 2022. So the pick you have in 2023 is a later 1st rounder. Are you sure you get a guy you want in the later 1st?

I didn't like the trade up myself either from a value standpoint but I also don't know that Tanner McKee or someone of that ilk is a better option going forward.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I wouldn't have traded up either for Trey Lance. I would've tried to trade for Stafford or even get stop-gap Matt Ryan. Then continue to fill holes then draft a QB in the 1st round in 2023 or 2024.

Nothing they could do on Stafford. Was gone before he was even on the market.

If you have Ryan then you probably win a lot in 2021 and 2022. So the pick you have in 2023 is a later 1st rounder. Are you sure you get a guy you want in the later 1st?

I didn't like the trade up myself either from a value standpoint but I also don't know that Tanner McKee or someone of that ilk is a better option going forward.

Matt Ryan was available at that time?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No team is a Super Bowl or bust team. The goal every year regardless of the franchise is to get to the playoffs. After that it's anyone's game.

X1000. I laugh out loud when people say losing a super bowl or nfccg makes the season unsuccessful.

Jed disagrees.

Obviously it's a really successful season but anytime you up come up short, it's unsuccessful for 31 teams. Especially for us...with our roster and expectations.