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Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
John and Kyle are betting on Trey the person. They see the physical tools but they believe it's his intangibles that is going to make him an elite QB. Work Ethic, IQ, Leadership, Hs mentality, And yes the system he is brought into. Ryan Leaf was a bust, Not because of his physical skills but because of all those intangibles I just mentioned. The same reason why Sam Darnold has been a bust. Tom Brady is the best QB all-time because of his intangibles, The same with Joe Montana. It's the reason why I don't believe Trey will be a bust, He has everything you can't teach. IMO the only way he turns into a bust is if he suffers a career altering injury.

I agree that Kyle and the Krew fell in love with the character of Lance, but players can easily present the best version of themselves for the interview process. And let's be honest, every single quarterback prospect is always heralded as a leader, gym rat, wants to be the greatest, etc. Fact is, we won't know until we know.

Fact is, at 14 years old Lance's twitter already looked like a professional's twitter page. He was more mature at 14 than Bosa was at 19. There's a LONG list of evidence that shows Lance has had his head in the right place for a LONG time—perhaps one of the benefits of having a former professional athlete as a father.
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
John and Kyle are betting on Trey the person. They see the physical tools but they believe it's his intangibles that is going to make him an elite QB. Work Ethic, IQ, Leadership, Hs mentality, And yes the system he is brought into. Ryan Leaf was a bust, Not because of his physical skills but because of all those intangibles I just mentioned. The same reason why Sam Darnold has been a bust. Tom Brady is the best QB all-time because of his intangibles, The same with Joe Montana. It's the reason why I don't believe Trey will be a bust, He has everything you can't teach. IMO the only way he turns into a bust is if he suffers a career altering injury.

I agree that Kyle and the Krew fell in love with the character of Lance, but players can easily present the best version of themselves for the interview process. And let's be honest, every single quarterback prospect is always heralded as a leader, gym rat, wants to be the greatest, etc. Fact is, we won't know until we know.

Fact is, at 14 years old Lance's twitter already looked like a professional's twitter page. He was more mature at 14 than Bosa was at 19. There's a LONG list of evidence that shows Lance has had his head in the right place for a LONG time—perhaps one of the benefits of having a former professional athlete as a father.

Meh, I'm not convinced yet.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

The REAL reasons why 9 NFL teams didn't draft Patrick Mahomes

I think this video is pretty good in terms of explaining why Mahomes was missed on. Mahomes wasn't this can't miss prospect and he had a ton of flaws he's probably the reason why so many teams are willing got take chances on projects now vs the nfl then. If you're Shanahan and coming into the mess that was the post Baalke 49ers id imagine he would've wanted some stability at the most important position on the team someone who could execute the system and perform the play. Prospect Mahomes was far from that.

I've heard this a thousand times. What I call it is "poor scouting." All the things you can't teach he was elite of the elite. The things he struggled with are things you CAN teach—in addition to the fact that some of them were caused by the horrid line and defense he had (which should have been considered). But even some of those, he STILL "struggles" with and yet dominates the league. His footwork and mechanics can still sometimes be all over the place. The problem is these guys had egos the size of Manhattan and forgot to remember that their EYES are more trustworthy than their DOGMA.

Yes, poor mechanics are a big danger. But when your arm is THAT special, they become almost trivial by comparison, causing issues maybe a couple times per game, while the elite stuff leads you to wins.

Just like Brett Favre.
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
John and Kyle are betting on Trey the person. They see the physical tools but they believe it's his intangibles that is going to make him an elite QB. Work Ethic, IQ, Leadership, Hs mentality, And yes the system he is brought into. Ryan Leaf was a bust, Not because of his physical skills but because of all those intangibles I just mentioned. The same reason why Sam Darnold has been a bust. Tom Brady is the best QB all-time because of his intangibles, The same with Joe Montana. It's the reason why I don't believe Trey will be a bust, He has everything you can't teach. IMO the only way he turns into a bust is if he suffers a career altering injury.

I agree that Kyle and the Krew fell in love with the character of Lance, but players can easily present the best version of themselves for the interview process. And let's be honest, every single quarterback prospect is always heralded as a leader, gym rat, wants to be the greatest, etc. Fact is, we won't know until we know.

Fact is, at 14 years old Lance's twitter already looked like a professional's twitter page. He was more mature at 14 than Bosa was at 19. There's a LONG list of evidence that shows Lance has had his head in the right place for a LONG time—perhaps one of the benefits of having a former professional athlete as a father.

Meh, I'm not convinced yet.

Convinced of what? His maturity? If you're not convinced of that it's because there's something wrong with your evaluation, either some bias or a lack of effort to investigate.

That, however, does NOT mean he won't be a bust. There are some things all the maturity, drive and desire in the world can't fix. Things tied to how your brain works with your body. Repetitive habitual movements, vision, mental reaction time, etc. Much of these things you either have or you don't. Yeah, you can clean up mechanics, but very few guys ever make dramatic changes. And so on.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.

True. That's why if you're a HC candidate for such a team, you demand a guaranteed salary. I think Shanahan did for six years, right?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.

True. That's why if you're a HC candidate for such a team, you demand a guaranteed salary. I think Shanahan did for six years, right?

I guess you could demand a guaranteed salary but how common is it?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.

True. That's why if you're a HC candidate for such a team, you demand a guaranteed salary. I think Shanahan did for six years, right?

I guess you could demand a guaranteed salary but how common is it?

Rare. For a lot of guys it's their big break. Guess if you aren't fighting off offers, maybe you're not ready to be a HC?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.

True. That's why if you're a HC candidate for such a team, you demand a guaranteed salary. I think Shanahan did for six years, right?

I guess you could demand a guaranteed salary but how common is it?

Rare. For a lot of guys it's their big break. Guess if you aren't fighting off offers, maybe you're not ready to be a HC?

Well a lot of these guys are 1st time HC's. I could see being able to make demands like that if you are a proven HC. I am sure a lot of the 1st timers are just happy to be given the opportunity.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I'm referring to the beginning of the 2017 season. We desperately needed a QB, and Instead of doing the smart thing, we decided to draft a DT, a DT we didn't even have room for. The F.O knew this halfway through the season when they decided to trade for Jimmy. Even after that, we all knew Jimmy was limited towards the end of 2019, but yet, we stuck with him for another year, and here we are now.

I'm referring to the years when we had losing years. We could have drafted a QB then whilst we had the chance and It wouldn't have cost us so much draft capital... None of this will mean much though If Lance becomes elite.

Sure they could have drafted a QB in 2017 but I won't hold that against them. I am a firm believer that you build a team from the inside out. We see year after year bottom feeder teams drafting QB's high and their careers end up going nowhere. Shanahan wanted Cousins, not Garoppolo but ended up being convinced that Jimmy was the way to go. I also don't think in 2020 they wanted a old QB at the end of his career and it wouldn't have been a good decision to trade for a QB who ultimately ended up missing all of last season and who is suspended again this season. They weren't in a very good position to draft a QB in 2020 either because of where they finished in 2019. They saw an opportunity to draft their guy in 2021 and they went and got him. Things don't always go as planned with anything we do in life but they did what they thought was right and, imo, the future looks bright.

I'm a firm believe that when you see a guy that can make every throw imaginable, from every angle, throws 60 yard bombs off his back feet, is mobile, and throws with anticipation, you draft him no matter what unless you already have an elite QB.

EDIT—the mistake these guys are making, assuming they simply didn't scout wrong, is they're playing them before they're ready. But 8 times out of 10 it's just bad scouting. Or maybe, unlucky, I guess you could say.

I am a firm believer that if a QB doesn't have an offensive line, run game or solid weapons to throw the ball to they are setup to fail and will more times than not do so. I don't care how great they were coming out of college.

Sure. But you draft the rookie and let your veteran get smashed. Get the pieces in those two off-seasons before he takes over.

In this day and age of the NFL? It was common 20-30 years ago but not now. We see HC's and GM's get fired after 2-3 years all of the time. They really don't have adequate time to draft and develop players anymore. I don't agree with it but that is the way that it is.

True. That's why if you're a HC candidate for such a team, you demand a guaranteed salary. I think Shanahan did for six years, right?

I guess you could demand a guaranteed salary but how common is it?

Rare. For a lot of guys it's their big break. Guess if you aren't fighting off offers, maybe you're not ready to be a HC?

Well a lot of these guys are 1st time HC's. I could see being able to make demands like that if you are a proven HC. I am sure a lot of the 1st timers are just happy to be given the opportunity.

Rarely, a guy will be a proven commodity before being a HC. Guys like Shanahan, who have had prolonged success as a coordinator.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 8, 2022 at 3:27 PM ]
If Kyle and Lynch isn't worried about Trey, no one should.
If the dude is not ready come the start of the season, i pray they sit the guy.

It is just like Alex Smith, you cant put the genie back in the bottle with out damaging it. The media and the Fans only give so much before they start boo and write articles or twitter i suppose these days twitter. Just dont put your franchise QB though that.

Bill Walsh had alot to say about Montana and Young and why throwing them to the wolves was a really really bad idea. Particularly Young, we (the nfl) don't get a HOF QB in Young if he stayed in Tampa. It took years to fix the bad habits.

I pray they dont put Lance though that. I was 60/40 on Mac Jones over Lance, but they went with the much better tool set. You have a perfect QB to build up, so spend the time to build him. So what if he is on the bench all year. It is another season for him to grow, and it is another year for the coaches to figure out how to build an offense he will excel at. It is a win-win long term.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
If the dude is not ready come the start of the season, i pray they sit the guy.

It is just like Alex Smith, you cant put the genie back in the bottle with out damaging it. The media and the Fans only give so much before they start boo and write articles or twitter i suppose these days twitter. Just dont put your franchise QB though that.

Bill Walsh had alot to say about Montana and Young and why throwing them to the wolves was a really really bad idea. Particularly Young, we (the nfl) don't get a HOF QB in Young if he stayed in Tampa. It took years to fix the bad habits.

I pray they dont put Lance though that. I was 60/40 on Mac Jones over Lance, but they went with the much better tool set. You have a perfect QB to build up, so spend the time to build him. So what if he is on the bench all year. It is another season for him to grow, and it is another year for the coaches to figure out how to build an offense he will excel at. It is a win-win long term.

At some point, he needs to just play. He needs experience more than anything. Also, as we've seen, sitting him doesn't stop people from writing negative stuff about him. If anything, it makes it worse because people will assume if he sits that he must be a bust.
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
If the dude is not ready come the start of the season, i pray they sit the guy.

It is just like Alex Smith, you cant put the genie back in the bottle with out damaging it. The media and the Fans only give so much before they start boo and write articles or twitter i suppose these days twitter. Just dont put your franchise QB though that.

Bill Walsh had alot to say about Montana and Young and why throwing them to the wolves was a really really bad idea. Particularly Young, we (the nfl) don't get a HOF QB in Young if he stayed in Tampa. It took years to fix the bad habits.

I pray they dont put Lance though that. I was 60/40 on Mac Jones over Lance, but they went with the much better tool set. You have a perfect QB to build up, so spend the time to build him. So what if he is on the bench all year. It is another season for him to grow, and it is another year for the coaches to figure out how to build an offense he will excel at. It is a win-win long term.

I think he'll succeed this year. I do think Kyle's offense will be different tho. Most of the YAC yards will be sacrificed for the occasional deep shots.

The question to me is can he keep the chains moving while also getting those occasional deep shots.

If he can hit the gimmes and with accuracy, he'll be fine. I just question whether or not he can consistently. The one thing we all may have been tired of seeing with Jimmy I think will be the thing we miss with Trey.
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