Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's been clear since training camp which guy gave the offense a higher ceiling, but that guy also required a unique set of plays. Juggling two different schemes has left things feeling watered down, all while it looks like Trey Lance hasn't been given many reps in practice.

— Chris Biderman (@ChrisBiderman) October 4, 2021

Can't wait to see what Trey has after a few weeks of reps with the 1's and a scheme tailored to his skill set.

Chris' thread here sums it up pretty well...

Trey Lance not being ready was part of the deal when he was drafted, but not giving him necessary practice time or game experience exasperates that. Then if (when) Jimmy Garoppolo gets hurt, you suddenly have a rookie QB over his skis. And it's not like JG is Alex Smith.

— Chris Biderman (@ChrisBiderman) October 4, 2021

Shanahan's insistence on it not being a QB battle is where I think he took a misstep. It should have been, because that would have meant more reps for Lance. And if he doesn't think Lance was good enough to make it a QB battle, that's ultimately on the coach who's developing him.

— Chris Biderman (@ChrisBiderman) October 4, 2021

He said nothing wrong, and I appreciate him actually taking a decisive stance. Instead of just towing the company line with 49ers brass.

Let's be real. Most Niner fans deep down inside knew that Jimmy would get hurt again at some point. No one wanted to say it because its hard to be overly negative during pre-season when optimism is usually high.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I thought Chris Biederman was smarter than this. I guess not. Still better than the Cohn's and Kurtenbach I suppose. Seems like Maiocco, Barrow and Cam Inman are about the only decent guys we have covering the team at the moment. Madden on Niners Wire is okay too but it seems like everyone else is taking their lead from all the talking head types on TV where I guess it pays to be strident and annoying while constantly trying to interject themselves into the center of the story.

what's wrong here?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Everyone's got a take on the Shanahan-Lance stuff, here's mine:

This comes down to Shanahan not forcing Lance to run whatever this offense is "supposed" to be. Maximize the offense with what Lance is comfortable with as he develops and embrace the chaoshttps://t.co/qpLuo0xIHp

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) October 4, 2021

Kyle made it work with RG3 regarding installing an offense that a rookie QB can be comfortable in. I trust he can do it with Lance.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
He said nothing wrong, and I appreciate him actually taking a decisive stance. Instead of just towing the company line with 49ers brass.

Let's be real. Most Niner fans deep down inside knew that Jimmy would get hurt again at some point. No one wanted to say it because its hard to be overly negative during pre-season when optimism is usually high.

agreed...you had Jimmy supporters saying point blank, Jimmy is the starter until he gets hurt...lol they knew it was inevitable. So Lance is standing there with his pants around his ankles and fans are expecting something magical all of a sudden.

Lance should have had more snaps, Jimmy is not Alex Smith from 2016/2017 ( he actually had multiple yrs of staying healthy).

Sucks, in a perfect world Jimmy plays all yr and win a SB and SF trades him for a buttload of picks...but that was a fairy tale and best case scenario. What is happening now was always more likely.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Everyone's got a take on the Shanahan-Lance stuff, here's mine:

This comes down to Shanahan not forcing Lance to run whatever this offense is "supposed" to be. Maximize the offense with what Lance is comfortable with as he develops and embrace the chaoshttps://t.co/qpLuo0xIHp

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) October 4, 2021

Great read. It's known that the OL will have to adjust to Trey's style, but I especially liked the part about our receivers needing to practice scramble drills. Have a feeling there will be a few down the road…

Originally posted by Heroism:
This is on point. At this point in his career, Trey isn't the type of QB that dinks and dunks down the field to move the chains and keep sustained drives going. He's more playmaker than QB right now, and Kyle is going to have to take the good with the bad. In other words, Trey will generate a lot more explosive plays than Jimmy, but he'll also miss the layups to sustain drives and move the chains.

But the way the league has trended, explosive plays >>>>>>>> sustained drives. Create turnovers+score points is the eminent winning recipe in contemporary football.

I guess we're going to find out firsthand if the bold is that much true. Sustained drives will always be important. Everyone likes explosive plays...a lot including myself also really like sustained drives for all the obvious reasons.

Creating turnovers + scoring points has always been a recipe for playing winning football - past and present.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Everyone's got a take on the Shanahan-Lance stuff, here's mine:

This comes down to Shanahan not forcing Lance to run whatever this offense is "supposed" to be. Maximize the offense with what Lance is comfortable with as he develops and embrace the chaoshttps://t.co/qpLuo0xIHp

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) October 4, 2021

Kyle made it work with RG3 regarding installing an offense that a rookie QB can be comfortable in. I trust he can do it with Lance.

Yeah but RG3 got all of training camp and preseason as the #1, Trey not so much...this is gonna be a cluster f**k mid-season install.

I can't wait to hear the b***hing from the fan base...

The 9ers should shell out as much money as necessary to acquire josh Allen's qb coach. Then the day the season is over Trey should be moving in with Allen and soaking everything possible up. I have little to no faith in scangorello. As a matter of fact beck should probably be on staff for the remainder of the season

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Everyone's got a take on the Shanahan-Lance stuff, here's mine:

This comes down to Shanahan not forcing Lance to run whatever this offense is "supposed" to be. Maximize the offense with what Lance is comfortable with as he develops and embrace the chaoshttps://t.co/qpLuo0xIHp

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) October 4, 2021

Kyle made it work with RG3 regarding installing an offense that a rookie QB can be comfortable in. I trust he can do it with Lance.

Yeah but RG3 got all of training camp and preseason as the #1, Trey not so much...this is gonna be a cluster f**k mid-season install.

I can't wait to hear the b***hing from the fan base...

It suck's tremendously but thankfully we don't have to hear it every single da…

ohh you're talking about Trey

chris biderman has always been on the "start lance week 1" camp, he's not exactly objective on this.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
I guess we're going to find out firsthand if the bold is that much true. Sustained drives will always be important. Everyone likes explosive plays...a lot including myself also really like sustained drives for all the obvious reasons.

Creating turnovers + scoring points has always been a recipe for playing winning football - past and present.

Sustained drives also create more opportunities for the offense to mess up...you need every player to execute for long drives on every play and that's not gonna be the cas all the time.

SF isn't creating TOs either...they have what one on the yr?

There's got to be a thread to have explosive plays, just how the league is. I hope we can manage to have both

Originally posted by Heroism:
This is on point. At this point in his career, Trey isn't the type of QB that dinks and dunks down the field to move the chains and keep sustained drives going. He's more playmaker than QB right now, and Kyle is going to have to take the good with the bad. In other words, Trey will generate a lot more explosive plays than Jimmy, but he'll also miss the layups to sustain drives and move the chains.

But the way the league has trended, explosive plays >>>>>>>> sustained drives. Create turnovers+score points is the eminent winning recipe in contemporary football.

this is what the league wants. Less holding penalties. More defensive pass interference. More explosive plays down the field.

I saw McGlinchey get away with a hold while Trey was scrambling, funningly enough.

Adapt to the modern league, or get left to the way side.

And none of this means that Trey will be the right guy for us. But at least the front office recognizes where the league is trending.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
chris biderman has always been on the "start lance week 1" camp, he's not exactly objective on this.

He also watched all of training camp...so he's probably a little more objective then people in here who didn't.