DeMeco Ryans, Texans HC

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
This franchise is too quick to promote from within: Singletary, Tomsula, that string of abysmal OCs we had awhile back....

Can't fully judge Ryans yet..he's not dealing with a talented secondary, but that last drive was abysmal.

All of this was expected. We talked about it all offseason. The people who thought there would be no drop off were in denial or dumb.

With the way people speak about DeMeco, I'd be surprised if the defense doesn't look better later in the year. But the early growing pains were always inevitable.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Is this supposed to be some sort of achievement?

Yes, if not the game is a blowout.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
This franchise is too quick to promote from within: Singletary, Tomsula, that string of abysmal OCs we had awhile back....

Can't fully judge Ryans yet..he's not dealing with a talented secondary, but that last drive was abysmal.

All of this was expected. We talked about it all offseason. The people who thought there would be no drop off were in denial or dumb.

With the way people speak about DeMeco, I'd be surprised if the defense doesn't look better later in the year. But the early growing pains were always inevitable.

I'd put just as much blame on Lynch or more than Ryans.

Ryans has a horrific secondary right now that's not his fault.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I'd put just as much blame on Lynch or more than Ryans.

Ryans has a horrific secondary right now that's not his fault.

Somebody needs to take heat for drafting a f**king guard--IN A SHANAHAN SYSTEM THAT HISTORICALLY HASN'T NEEDED TO DRAFT GUARDS EARLY--that is buried on the depth chart over Asante Samuel Jr or Azeez Ojulari. They drafted a f**king guard over guys that played premier positions.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Is this supposed to be some sort of achievement?

Yes, if not the game is a blowout.

The Packers scored 6 of their 10 drives. With 1 of the drives they passed up a chip shot FG to go for a 4th and goal play.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

The TOP was even

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:

This franchise is too quick to promote from within: Singletary, Tomsula, that string of abysmal OCs we had awhile back....

Can't fully judge Ryans yet..he's not dealing with a talented secondary, but that last drive was abysmal.

All of this was expected. We talked about it all offseason. The people who thought there would be no drop off were in denial or dumb.

With the way people speak about DeMeco, I'd be surprised if the defense doesn't look better later in the year. But the early growing pains were always inevitable.

I'd put just as much blame on Lynch or more than Ryans.

Ryans has a horrific secondary right now that's not his fault.

This is true.
Everyone knew this was a weakness

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

The guy that was doing the Lions game said the same thing, more than once. When the Lions were mounting that late comeback he kept saying they need to change up once in awhile. Same with blitzes which they don't do much. You have to disguise them somewhat or a good QB will spot it and find an open receiver somewhere.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
That kinda play on the TD is similar to what happened on the 3rd and 15. A great QB is gonna make that throw a bad QB is throwing a INT to the CB fading back. Rodgers is gonna make plays it's what he does. Just can't have him targeting the same dude 18 times and not make adjustments. Like last year against the Cardinals in week 1 I swear every pass was a back shoulder to Hopkins and we never adjusted

Yeah, and that was Week 1 when we had Saleh at the height of his DC powers and the defense wasn't yet decimated by injuries. It still happens that elite QB's are going to target their elite WR's when the defense just doesn't have an answer for it.

These pains that we're seeing in the cornerback position are due to the organizational choice that the team made to heavily invest in their defensive line and roll the dice with Verrett and Moseley as our starting cornerbacks. It wasn't a terrible gamble, but in hindsight, it hurts with Verrett getting injured. With Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams, the Packers were well-equipped to take advantage of our defense's weaknesses.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I'd put just as much blame on Lynch or more than Ryans.

Ryans has a horrific secondary right now that's not his fault.

Somebody needs to take heat for drafting a f**king guard--IN A SHANAHAN SYSTEM THAT HISTORICALLY HASN'T NEEDED TO DRAFT GUARDS EARLY--that is buried on the depth chart over Asante Samuel Jr or Azeez Ojulari. They drafted a f**king guard over guys that played premier positions.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

The guy that was doing the Lions game said the same thing, more than once. When the Lions were mounting that late comeback he kept saying they need to change up once in awhile. Same with blitzes which they don't do much. You have to disguise them somewhat or a good QB will spot it and find an open receiver somewhere.

Dante whitner said the same thing on the post game and he was mad mad about it

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

The guy that was doing the Lions game said the same thing, more than once. When the Lions were mounting that late comeback he kept saying they need to change up once in awhile. Same with blitzes which they don't do much. You have to disguise them somewhat or a good QB will spot it and find an open receiver somewhere.

Ryan seems have his LBers bluffing A/B gap blitzes when it's gonna be zone. That big of tell to ARod is to easy

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Is this supposed to be some sort of achievement?

Yes, if not the game is a blowout.

The Packers scored 6 of their 10 drives. With 1 of the drives they passed up a chip shot FG to go for a 4th and goal play.

The entire team looked bad at times.. the Only points we scored through the first half came from a kick return that put the offense In a good position to score.. we saw the same issues against the Eagles too, an offense that was sleep walking through two quarters of football. Not good.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Ryan seems have his LBers bluffing A/B gap blitzes when it's gonna be zone. That big of tell to ARod is to easy

How do you play that much man coverage when you don't have legit man coverage CBs?