DeMeco Ryans, Texans HC

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Holy s**t so the 9ers might actual be without Ryans next season, thats if Adofo-Mensah gets the GM gig.

Sure does look like it. But the raiders interview bothers me too. They are waiting to interview him *after the NFCCG*, instead of hiring a guy now. That definitely is not a good sign in my book for keeping Demeco. They must be REALLY interested in Demeco for them to wait that long. He might take McDaniel if Demeco gets a HC job.

Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Id be surprised to see Embree go as a OC imo. He's never been a OC in his career and he's been around for awhile. Doesn't make sense he'd be the choice at this point. I'd say if he was going to be an OC it would have happened at this point. If anything I'd bet on a guy like Pat Shurmur who was in Philly when Ryans was a player or he retains Kubiak because Ryans played for his dad in Houston so there is a possible connection.

I think Ryans will still be here next year.

Defensive head coaches aren't fairing too well in the league today. For instance, all 4 teams left in the playoffs are led by offensive coaches. Even the many of the teams that got eliminated are built on offensive leadership — Raiders, Packers, Cards, Cowboys, etc

You really want a guy who can call plays and maximize the value of your QB. Then when teams come trying to hire away your coaches you want 100% continuity on the offensive side of the ball.

We saw what happens when you have 7 OCs in 7 years or whatever it was or when a team has the best offense ever then has their offensive play caller hired out from under them (see Dan Quinn in Atlanta).

Lastly, even if a team did want a defensive coach, there's several super experienced guys already on the market (Quinn, Bowles Zimmer, etc).

hes not going anywhere.

As much as folks in the Jimmy thread love talk about wins.... real NFL people who plan to give away millions for a HC know wassup with our team. Main reason we are winning is because of our defense.

Someone is gonna snatch him up. Too many vacancies right now.

So what's the general consensus on his replacement? Dline coach? Lord Fangio?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Demeco has been a player on teams that have had Pat Shurmur, Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson and Duce Staley as coaches so his short list for OC candidates could include candidates not on Kyle's staff.

Though not sure Doug would be an OC again.

But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

If the Vikings hire Kwesi Adofo-Mensah as GM today, it's important to note that he hasn't "packaged" himself with a coaching candidate in interviews. I think he'll be open-minded. But hard not to connect him with 49ers DC DeMeco Ryans.

Adofo-Mensah and Ryans were together in SF.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 25, 2022

jesus who's coming in as DC if that happens?

Is there anything that ties the two together other than the fact that they were both here 2017-2019?

Nope that's it

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Demeco has been a player on teams that have had Pat Shurmur, Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson and Duce Staley as coaches so his short list for OC candidates could include candidates not on Kyle's staff.

Though not sure Doug would be an OC again.

But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

They run a lot of the same concepts already in Minn. It's all Kubiak stuff, Kyle adds his own flare to all it but it's not gonna be some massively different scheme.

I don't see Ryans getting a HC job this yr, from what I've read it looks like the Vikings want someone who's been a HC prior.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Holy s**t so the 9ers might actual be without Ryans next season, thats if Adofo-Mensah gets the GM gig.

Sure does look like it. But the raiders interview bothers me too. They are waiting to interview him *after the NFCCG*, instead of hiring a guy now. That definitely is not a good sign in my book for keeping Demeco. They must be REALLY interested in Demeco for them to wait that long. He might take McDaniel if Demeco gets a HC job.

Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Id be surprised to see Embree go as a OC imo. He's never been a OC in his career and he's been around for awhile. Doesn't make sense he'd be the choice at this point. I'd say if he was going to be an OC it would have happened at this point. If anything I'd bet on a guy like Pat Shurmur who was in Philly when Ryans was a player or he retains Kubiak because Ryans played for his dad in Houston so there is a possible connection.

Kubiak would be a interesting choice too. But just because Embree hasn't been an OC doesn't mean he's not capable, position coaches becomes OC's all the time. And since Embree has been in Shanahan's offense for four years I would think he has good knowledge on how to call it and coach it. But yah, I think Kubiak Jr. would be the choice.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kubiak would be a interesting choice too. But just because Embree hasn't been an OC doesn't mean he's not capable, position coaches becomes OC's all the time. And since Embree has been in Shanahan's offense for four years I would think he has good knowledge on how to call it and coach it. But yah, I think Kubiak Jr. would be the choice.

Jon Embree has never called plays since he started coaching in 1991. He's been primarily a TE coach 2006. I mean there's nothing in his resume that leads me to believe he can or actually wants to call plays.

End of the day I don't see Ryans getting a gig this yr anyway. Wouldn't be shocked if it's Flores/Quinn/Bowles in Minn. Reporters have said that Kwesi Adofo-Mensah isn't tied to a certain HC candidate, Breer just brought up Ryans because he interviewed there and KAM worked in SF for a hot min.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Demeco has been a player on teams that have had Pat Shurmur, Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson and Duce Staley as coaches so his short list for OC candidates could include candidates not on Kyle's staff.

Though not sure Doug would be an OC again.

But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

They run a lot of the same concepts already in Minn. It's all Kubiak stuff, Kyle adds his own flare to all it but it's not gonna be some massively different scheme.

I don't see Ryans getting a HC job this yr, from what I've read it looks like the Vikings want someone who's been a HC prior.

i hope he stays 1 more year. i think hes gone next year

Vikings hire Kwesi Adofo-Mensah as GM, who is said to favor Demeco Ryans for head coach
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Yah Ryans I think is 90% a goner but good for him. But I doubt Shanahan allow Ryans to take McDaniel. If anything Ryans takes TE coach Embree to be his OC. IMO

Demeco has been a player on teams that have had Pat Shurmur, Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson and Duce Staley as coaches so his short list for OC candidates could include candidates not on Kyle's staff.

Though not sure Doug would be an OC again.

But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

They run a lot of the same concepts already in Minn. It's all Kubiak stuff, Kyle adds his own flare to all it but it's not gonna be some massively different scheme.

I don't see Ryans getting a HC job this yr, from what I've read it looks like the Vikings want someone who's been a HC prior.

Another option for Vikes OC if they did want Meco, is to keep Klint Kubiak in his current role and allowing him to continue to grow and develop as an OC. He did garner some interest from other teams while the Minnesota situation is in flux....

Originally posted by Kolohe:
But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

They're already running a form of Shanahan's offense.

It's seems crazy to me that a first year DC is getting HC interviews. I'm mean he's doing a great job but you would think you wait for at least 2 good seasons. I guess good poster hard to find

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
But what if they expect him to bring Shanahan's offense?? It might work well with Cousins.

They're already running a form of Shanahan's offense.

Kyle pointed out that they run his dad's offense not his or one of his disciples.
You can really see it in the Vikings utter lack of creativity on offense. It's still effective but not creative in any way.