NFL officiating influencing games

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Also explains why the 3rd and long was converted in the SB.

I posted on GameDay thread that the Chiefs have had one holding call on 120+ dropbacks. Extrapolated over 600 drop backs, thats 5 holding calls. 49ers have been called for 3 in 90 dropbacks, that's 18 over 600 dropbacks. Like the offenses need more help.

Kyle had even brought that to the officials' attention prior to the game

Updating offensive holding calls against KC. ZERO on Monday night.

1 hold on 150 dropbacks. Lol.

Well Chiefs were off their game (or maybe the refs) 3 offensive holding calls on 43 drop backs.

Bringing their season total to 4 offensive holding calls on 193 dropbacks

Update: zero holding calls for KC on 26 dropbacks.....that's more like it. Season total: 4 offensive holding calls on 219 dropbacks. Lol.

While beating the hell out of Denver only 23 dropbacks.....no penalties. 4 holding on 243 dropbacks for the season.

Updating the NFL loves Mahomes saga.
47 dropbacks ZERO holding calls.
That makes a whopping 4 holding calls on now 290 dropbacks. Not sure if that's normal, seems pretty f'in ridiculous. 1 hold per 72 dropbacks. Lol

Week 9 update. Flawless game today (again) by KCs Oline. No holding calls on 45 dropbacks. So for the season 4 holds on 335 dropbacks. Now I'm not sure what the league average is, also they're not calling as much holding. But approaching 1 hold per 100 dropbacks. Seems pretty f**king ridiculous.

I'd be totally shocked. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'd be totally shocked. LOL

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It's BS. I read it was part of some promotion he was doing.

Think of it this way...who in their right mind would take the script for being a sh*t player who doesn't live to see his 2nd contract in the NFL? And why does a guy like Brady get a script that says 6th round draft pick - make millions of dollars and win multiple SBs.

If it's scripted in any way it's via slight ref "adjustments"

Originally posted by genus49:

It's BS. I read it was part of some promotion he was doing.

Think of it this way...who in their right mind would take the script for being a sh*t player who doesn't live to see his 2nd contract in the NFL? And why does a guy like Brady get a script that says 6th round draft pick - make millions of dollars and win multiple SBs.

If it's scripted in any way it's via slight ref "adjustments"

TY. It's not fixed but influenced by the right arm (officials) of the NFL HQ's probably influenced by best matchups for viewership, Vegas, TV ratings, merchandise sales, player-themed marketing, media stories, etc. Who knows.

And it's not guaranteed even influencing can change the final outcome but it's certainly easier between two equally talented teams. One call can easily change the final results and those games only get closer in the playoffs.

But like anything, follow the money...esp. one of a billion dollar business.

Originally posted by NCommand:

TY. It's not fixed but influenced by the right arm (officials) of the NFL HQ's probably influenced by best matchups for viewership, Vegas, TV ratings, merchandise sales, player-themed marketing, media stories, etc. Who knows.

And it's not guaranteed even influencing can change the final outcome but it's certainly easier between two equally talented teams. One call can easily change the final results and those games only get closer in the playoffs.

But like anything, follow the money...esp. one of a billion dollar business.

Very true it's hilarious when people say don't make excuses with referee calls however what they fail to comprehend is if two teams are pretty equally matched talent wise one call could be the game. You can't always say something like..... well we should've been in a better position so that call would not of lost us the game. However these short sighted people don't realize that when two great teams are playing like the 49ers and the Chiefs, you can't really expect one of them to be blowing out the other team in such a manner that a crucial call or calls Will not affect the outcome.

Just look at the non holding call on Bosa on third down that would have prevented Kansas City from driving and scoring that touchdown and most likely that would've been game over. A lot of us have acknowledged that. Same thing with the Super Bowl against Baltimore. That kick return they had, the non-call was one of the worst I've ever seen. It was such a bad hold you can see miller's jersey halfway up his body and his shoulder pads out. That call did affect the game and cost us a sixth trophy.

Now referees are not calling holding on offense that much and that is negating teams that have great defensive lines. I guess it's time to invest in offensive lineman like you and I have been suggesting for years that way they can hold these great defenders and we're good to go and win another SB

"If they weren't going to call a single holding on the Chiefs OL in the Super Bowl, they might as well have not even played the game and just handed KC the trophy."

-Michael Lombardi

Originally posted by Niners99:

"If they weren't going to call a single holding on the Chiefs OL in the Super Bowl, they might as well have not even played the game and just handed KC the trophy."

-Michael Lombardi

Bingo....Now it has a lot of us fans bickering over what the offense should've done better or the defense should've done better. Well we played good enough to win if the officiating was below average at best. Too bad it was absent

Refs didn't want to call holding penalties in the SB because they didn't want to influence the game. But by not calling those penalties, they did exactly that. Not calling that obvious hold on Bosa influenced the game. It would have been 3rd and 25 from their own 10 yard line. Instead it was 1st and 10 from the Niners 40 or so. That was the turning point of the game.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Refs didn't want to call holding penalties in the SB because they didn't want to influence the game. But by not calling those penalties, they did exactly that. Not calling that obvious hold on Bosa influenced the game. It would have been 3rd and 25 from their own 10 yard line. Instead it was 1st and 10 from the Niners 40 or so. That was the turning point of the game.

But if we hit Crabtree and he catches it at the end, there wasn't a flag on the ground just in case he caught it or anything. Soooo

Originally posted by Zachary:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Refs didn't want to call holding penalties in the SB because they didn't want to influence the game. But by not calling those penalties, they did exactly that. Not calling that obvious hold on Bosa influenced the game. It would have been 3rd and 25 from their own 10 yard line. Instead it was 1st and 10 from the Niners 40 or so. That was the turning point of the game.

But if we hit Crabtree and he catches it at the end, there wasn't a flag on the ground just in case he caught it or anything. Soooo

Crabtree?

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Refs didn't want to call holding penalties in the SB because they didn't want to influence the game. But by not calling those penalties, they did exactly that. Not calling that obvious hold on Bosa influenced the game. It would have been 3rd and 25 from their own 10 yard line. Instead it was 1st and 10 from the Niners 40 or so. That was the turning point of the game.

Totally agreed. Between that and the OPI on Kittle, two plays that completely changed the rest of what was a good game. They both hurt the Niners.

Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:
Totally agreed. Between that and the OPI on Kittle, two plays that completely changed the rest of what was a good game. They both hurt the Niners.

Also, the pi call on Moore on 3rd down at the endzone...

Different game but street hit on Brees is totally legal. The refs need to start to lose their jobs for egregious calls like that.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Different game but street hit on Brees is totally legal. The refs need to start to lose their jobs for egregious calls like that.

Yep. These are the things that get very little coverage during the week of game highlights, and it's hurting the game if you ask me.

Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Different game but street hit on Brees is totally legal. The refs need to start to lose their jobs for egregious calls like that.

Yep. These are the things that get very little coverage during the week of game highlights, and it's hurting the game if you ask me.

I don't get it if they can challenge big PI calls, why can't we challenge big illegal hit calls. With the illegal hits its more black and white compared to PI calls.