Kwon Alexander LB, Saints | Page 239

okdkid · 2019-03-11T10:45:52-07:00

Kwon Alexander will sign with the 49ers, per source.— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 11, 2019

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:38 AM

cutty650
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Why not dump jimmy he is using his injury to his advantage he was fine until he threw that pick we should have got on seahawks early but jimmy can't throw I say dump jimmy ford an richburg pettis taylor

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:38 AM

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niners94
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Originally posted by DJamhour:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Could be. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few other moves today. Like the team shutting down Jimmy G. for the rest of the season because that ankle isn't getting any better.

I wouldn't shut him down, I would let him heal 3-4 games and finish the season. If he's still playing the same trade him or cut him

Cutting him is stupid.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:38 AM

#3573

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#49ers will take on $6.9M in dead money next year and will have wound up paying about $23.5M for 13 games. Was a very risky and surprising deal when signed so smart to bail and save a few dollars for the season
— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) November 2, 2020

Save like $9M next yr though

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:39 AM

#3574

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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by DJamhour:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Could be. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few other moves today. Like the team shutting down Jimmy G. for the rest of the season because that ankle isn't getting any better.

I wouldn't shut him down, I would let him heal 3-4 games and finish the season. If he's still playing the same trade him or cut him

Cutting him is stupid.

He has 25 million reasons why he should be playing.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:39 AM

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I'm going to miss Kwon. When he's on he's a heat seeking missile on the field. Not to mention he was clearly a leader in the LB room. With Greenlaw's emergence into a legit playmaker his days were numbered. Good move to clear some cap space for next year.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:39 AM

#3576

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Originally posted by DJamhour:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Could be. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few other moves today. Like the team shutting down Jimmy G. for the rest of the season because that ankle isn't getting any better.

I wouldn't shut him down, I would let him heal 3-4 games and finish the season. If he's still playing the same trade him or cut him

Indeed, roll with Mullins as I think the playbook opens more with him at the helm. Who knows, if he wins 3 of the next 4, maybe roll with the hot hand.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:40 AM

#3577

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Dre greenlaw beat out kwon. Kwon was way too expensive.

Al shaair showed whst he can do, so the niners got kiko as a stop gap.

Will Kiko even play?

Special teams

I mean, is he healthy enough to play? He tore his ACL in the playoffs last year.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Got Kiko Alonzo

What is Alonzo's cap hit? Alonzo to play Al'Shair's side plus a pick for a lower cap hit would be a hell of a coup.

Im not sure but a lot better than having Al-Shair playing

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:42 AM

#3579

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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
This is called "waving the white flag."

We got Kwon and others to help us get to the Super Bowl. They did. We didn't win. Now the window has closed. At least for this season.

The window for this season closed when Bosa went down. This moves has more to do with money than anything else. Dre replaces Kwon instantly for less cash.

You're probably right about Bosa. I was hoping that Dee Ford could provide a little more push, but he's MIA.

I wonder if the brain trust even cares about a playoff push this season? Or is it wait till next year?

Those are excellent questions. I don't think the front office is stupid—they know we're fighting a very uphill battle without some of our best players. They certainly aren't giving up on the season, but they need to make the moves necessary for this team to compete long-term. I suspect the team will try to do something with Dee Ford next.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Are we packing it in? We trade an injury-prone 26 year old in his prime for a slower very injury-prone 30 year old on the downside of his career? Was Kwon seen as an issue on defense; as this simply a cap off-loading thing; or was this for help with our anemic pass rush? Personally I didn't see Kwon as a problem on defense. In fact he's much better than Kiko Alonso (who ran a 4.74 40) as a pass defender. So I see this as pass-rush help and cap off-loading, because I simply don't see how Kiko helps us otherwise.

His weakness was missed tackles. He had excellent speed but was prone to overrunning players or coming in too hard and not wrapping up.

This was a salary dump for next year.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Got Kiko Alonzo

What is Alonzo's cap hit? Alonzo to play Al'Shair's side plus a pick for a lower cap hit would be a hell of a coup.

Im not sure but a lot better than having Al-Shair playing

The thing with Al-Shaair, and other young players, is that they have the talent to look absolutely FANTASTIC on one play and the lack of experience to look incredibly bad on the next play.

Fred Warner's rookie season was hit and miss as well. You just roll with it.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:46 AM

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dj43
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Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Armstead just needs to play inside, instead of DE and he'll be more than ok.

armstead sucks,,inside, outside,,upside down HE SUCKS

He has not been as good as he was last season but is still rated in the top 25 EDs. Think JPP for a comparison this year.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by dj43:
His weakness was missed tackles. He had excellent speed but was prone to overrunning players or coming in too hard and not wrapping up.

This was a salary dump for next year.

Niners also get a conditional 5th round pick. Lynch said they are trying to get more picks in anticipation of losing some guys next season because of the cap.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by AkNiners:
I'm going to miss Kwon. When he's on he's a heat seeking missile on the field. Not to mention he was clearly a leader in the LB room. With Greenlaw's emergence into a legit playmaker his days were numbered. Good move to clear some cap space for next year.

yeah emphasis on the "miss" in missile.

Nov 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Are we packing it in? We trade an injury-prone 26 year old in his prime for a slower very injury-prone 30 year old on the downside of his career? Was Kwon seen as an issue on defense; as this simply a cap off-loading thing; or was this for help with our anemic pass rush? Personally I didn't see Kwon as a problem on defense. In fact he's much better than Kiko Alonso (who ran a 4.74 40) as a pass defender. So I see this as pass-rush help and cap off-loading, because I simply don't see how Kiko helps us otherwise.

Kwon is accountable for $13 million the next two seasons. Kiko is only accountable for $3.5 and is a free agent at the end of the season.

We need the money and cap space that Kwon was taking up.

I don't see us trading McKinnon as his contract is basically peanuts and I doubt we'll be bringing him back next year.

Might as well just roll with him for the rest of the year due to the amount of injuries we've got at RB.