Friction going down between Belichick and Brady's guru | Page 7

Phoenix49ers · 2017-12-22T10:51:21-08:00

In 2013, as Tom Brady and Alex Guerrero prepared to launch their TB12 therapy center, Bill Belichick made clear during a sports medicine symposium that he trusted the medical and training staff the Patriots already had in place. He credited the team's staff with helping to win the franchise's first three Super Bowls. In the years after, Belichick allowed many of Brady's teammates to participate in training regimens not with the Patriots' highly regarded medical and training staff, but at the TB12 Center just outside of the stadium in Patriot Place. Guerrero treated the players there with his alternative methods, and the TB12 Center billed the Patriots for his services. Belichick also permitted Guerrero, Brady's close friend and business partner, to secure his own office near the Patriots locker room, fly on the team charter to road games, and receive credentials to work the sidelines of every game, home and away.https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2017/12/19/bill-belichick-curbs-privileges-tom-brady-associate-alex-guerrero/NgoTiMHsA7UfWyG3jtquVI/story.htmlBut this season the Patriots coach has reversed course. For reasons he has declined to explain, Belichick weeks ago stripped Guerrero of his special team privileges, restoring a measure of tradition to the team's medical and training operation, according to several people familiar with the Patriots' internal operations. Guerrero is now banned from boarding Patriots jets. His sideline access has been revoked. And he no longer is permitted to treat players other than Brady in his exclusive office at Gillette Stadium. Tom Brady's Personal Guru Is a Glorified Snake-Oil Salesman According to the FTC, Alex Guerrero faked being a doctor and claimed his products could cure cancer and concussions. These days, Guerrero's business partner is the greatest quarterback of all time. He said his name was Dr. Alejandro Guerrero, and he had incredible news. At his California clinic, Dr. Guerrero had been testing a nutritional supplement that—he claimed, according to affidavits filed in federal court—produced miraculous results. He said he'd conducted "clinical studies" of 200 patients who'd been diagnosed as terminally ill. They were suffering from ailments such as cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's disease. And eight years later, all but eight had survived and he had incredible news.http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2015/10/09/tom-brady-alex-guerrero-neurosafe/https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2017/12/20/much-concern-alex-guerrerobill-belichick-rift-patriots/-Over the last few years, Guerrero's influence has grown inside the Patriots' locker room, as he now treats about 20 Patriots players.As that influence increased, Guerrero became more emboldened in the advice he dispensed, and more adamant that when his instructions conflicted with that of the Patriots' strength, training and medical staffs, the players were to follow his directives. -This greatly agitated the Patriots' staff.One example: a Patriots starter was told by Guerrero not to do squats. When the strength staff made that part of the player's normal in-season workout, the player refused to do the exercise. That only added to the tension between the Patriots and Guerrero.In the early stages of the season, -Belichick professionally informed Guerrero that the team wanted to keep everyone on the same page for the betterment of the franchise. Guerrero told a different account to many of his clients — one that painted Belichick in a poor light — which further damaged the relationship, perhaps to the point that it can't be repaired. With Brady as his top client, and with a business relationship with the Kraft family, Guerrero was largely allowed to do what he wanted. -Consequently, Belichick was helpless when it came to dealing with Guerrero. It became more of an issue when his clientele went from a handful of Patriots players to nearly half of the roster.Guerrero is still allowed to treat Brady in the Patriots' facility in a private room, but his appearance in other parts of the building is an intentional irritant to Belichick. -Guerrero has traveled to the team's locations to treat Brady on the quarterback's dime.The situation has absolutely become a source of friction between Brady and Belichick. But unless Brady forces the issue and demands Guerrero's reinstatement, no one believes it will affect the team on the field.But that hasn't stopped some behind the scenes at Gillette from referring to Guerrero as "Yoko Guerrero," in reference to Yoko Ono, the wife of John Lennon who some believe caused the breakup of The Beatles. -There was an attempt to bring the three parties — Belichick, Brady and Robert Kraft — together to put the issue to bed prior to the game in Miami, but it didn't happen. It's not known whether another attempt will be made.Two sources said they believe the current arrangement is permanent. -Belichick doesn't want to irritate his staff further by giving in on Guerrero. Brady is steadfast in his belief in and support of Guerrero. Kraft is basically trying to remain Switzerland between his Hall of Fame coach, and the franchise player he adores.

Jan 6, 2018 at 6:10 AM

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tjd808185
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Or they just didn't have Gronk. Lol that Bill is tanking games to show how smart he is.

Jan 6, 2018 at 7:01 AM

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Originally posted by Rascal:
When there is smoke, the chances are there is fire.

It is quite possible Belichick might have been an indirect source who leaked the story in the first place.

It wouldn't surprise me at all. Kraft pissed him off by forcing him to trade Jimmy G who he loved and he has to look at Brady's face everyday. That is a heck of a lot of pride to swallow if he were to stay in NE. Plus, why would he want to? He has made more than enough money and won more than enough Super Bowls to have to take that kind of sh*t.

The Giants job would make perfect sense.

Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

Jan 6, 2018 at 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

They're either going to lose him or McD this offseason. I think Kraft will want Bill, Tom likely prefers McD. He may push Kraft to let Bill walk if the bridges are burned down.

Jan 6, 2018 at 7:25 AM

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Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

What is Kraft going to do? If Bill doesn't want to be there, he isn't going to force him to stay there. The relationship is broken.

Jan 6, 2018 at 7:43 AM

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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

What is Kraft going to do? If Bill doesn't want to be there, he isn't going to force him to stay there. The relationship is broken.

The contract needs to be amended if bill wants to coach somewhere else I believe.

[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jan 6, 2018 at 9:00 AM ]

Jan 6, 2018 at 8:40 AM

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Originally posted by titan:
If they lose their first game I think it will get really ugly.

Hope it happens.

Denying Jimmy G access to his TB12 rehab was such a BS move. I'm sure Jimmy is glad to be outta there.

[ Edited by SFTifoso on Jan 6, 2018 at 8:42 AM ]

Jan 6, 2018 at 9:04 AM

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

What is Kraft going to do? If Bill doesn't want to be there, he isn't going to force him to stay there. The relationship is broken.

The contract needs to be amended if bill wants to coach somewhere else I believe.

Pats can trade Bill to the Giants. Get something in return at least.

Jan 6, 2018 at 9:24 AM

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Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by titan:
If they lose their first game I think it will get really ugly.

Hope it happens.

Denying Jimmy G access to his TB12 rehab was such a BS move. I'm sure Jimmy is glad to be outta there.

Im glad Garoppolo didn't get involved with that weird health cult.

Jan 6, 2018 at 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Bill B is under contract in NE. Does anyone really think that Robert Kraft is going to let Bill B just walk out the door and take the Giants job? I call BS.

What is Kraft going to do? If Bill doesn't want to be there, he isn't going to force him to stay there. The relationship is broken.

The contract needs to be amended if bill wants to coach somewhere else I believe.

Pats can trade Bill to the Giants. Get something in return at least.

lol as if Patriots fans didn't already hate the Giants enough.

Jan 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by titan:
If they lose their first game I think it will get really ugly.

Hope it happens.

Denying Jimmy G access to his TB12 rehab was such a BS move. I'm sure Jimmy is glad to be outta there.

Im glad Garoppolo didn't get involved with that weird health cult.

Definitely, but just the act itself is such a douchebag move. The locked doors and the non returned phone calls. But what can you expect from this guy.

Jan 6, 2018 at 10:25 AM

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Wouldnt be surprised if BB 'retired' after the season. The espn article sure made it sound that way.

Jan 6, 2018 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Wouldnt be surprised if BB 'retired' after the season. The espn article sure made it sound that way.

Me either. If BB does retire would Brady play next year? It could only tarnish his legacy IMO. They probably promote McDaniels and lose Patricia to the Giants.

Brady and McDaniels would be alright, but I'd be against them making the playoffs. Brady and the Pats will implode without BB

Jan 6, 2018 at 12:18 PM

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Last year when people were talking about trading the #2 pick for Cousins (hahaha, hindsight) I said I would only trade the #2 over all for Brady (hahaha hindsight) he is still the baby "goat" though. PS- SF owned the city of Boston.. Curse of the bambino v2.0 ( Jummy G chronicles) they are imploding and eating themselves.. Strap in and eat the popcorn.. Gentz

Jan 6, 2018 at 2:39 PM

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Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Colin Cowherd has been killing it lately with this drama in NE....

First he speculates a few weeks ago that Belichick is pissed at Kraft for forcing Brady to stay, so he trades JB and then JG out of spite.........all because of his ego.

Then he kind of reiterates all of this in a recent video based off of this article.

And now his latest video he claims that Belichick sabotaged Brady in the recent Dolphins game with a vanilla game plan and no visible emotion to show what Brady would look like without him.

I gotta tell you.........Tim Kawakami ain't got s**** on Cowherd! My favorite sports conspiracy theorist, bar none.

I hope what he's saying is actually true!!!

yes, he's an idiot. sadly, there's some who actually believe what he says and fall for his mini skip bayless act.

Jan 6, 2018 at 3:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
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BREAKING: Bill Belichick 'sees an opening' to coach @Giants and might take it amid Patriots drama, source tells @garymyersNYDN http://nydn.us/2EaJ6HC 

If I'm a Pats fan I'd start to sweat a little bit... I still have doubts but the smoke is getting a bit too suspiciously thick.

#Fakenews

When there is smoke, the chances are there is fire.

It is quite possible Belichick might have been an indirect source who leaked the story in the first place.

It wouldn't surprise me at all. Kraft pissed him off by forcing him to trade Jimmy G who he loved and he has to look at Brady's face everyday. That is a heck of a lot of pride to swallow if he were to stay in NE. Plus, why would he want to? He has made more than enough money and won more than enough Super Bowls to have to take that kind of sh*t.

The Giants job would make perfect sense.

Kraft just went out and announced Belichick is his HC in 2018.