Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
He has had 1 poor game this season and that was the DEN game. He has had a poor play here and there but other than that he has been solid this season.

I thought the KC game was poor it was mostly good but the bad outweighed the good making it not a good game. Go back and look at that INT from holding the ball not getting it out into the blitz. Also holding the ball, getting strip sacked. Finally, he got safetied from holding the ball in his own endzone which was clownish. The problems as usual stem from not getting it out quick, which I am noticing improvement recently. CMC effect helping as it is drawing the D away, opening up some space out there.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

All I know is last year, damn near everyone screamed from the mountain tops that Jimmy G had "no chance" of being back with the 49ers yet here we are. I don't know about you guys but I hope he stays with the team for as long as the locker room continues to support him and win football games, it may take a 6th Lombardi for that to happen so it will be a tall task to say the least. The team should've never traded up for Trey Lance, or any QB of the class for the matter.

The only reason he is here was because he took a massive pay cut to be the backup and had shoulder surgery which killed his trade value.

He ain't talking a pay cut to be the backup here in 2023…he will be in demand based on his play so far, someone will give him a fat payday and I do not think SF is gonna do that again with Lance sill here (plus you got to pay others).

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
The problem with 2022's Jimmy stats is that he's played at two wild extremes. So the average is not going to tell an accurate picture yet. Lately he's been playing well. If he continues, this will hands down be his best season.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Passer rating has always been stupid. Every player always laughed about it. QBR is not perfect but it's a better metric. I'll trust the players and coaches when it comes to this.

which is more accurate

Daniel Jones is a top 10 QB or Daniel Jones is the 19th ranked QB
Derek Carr is a top 10 QB or the 16th ranked QB
Jacoby Brisset is a top 10 QB or the 18th ranked QB
Marcus Mariotta is a 11th ranked QB (LOL) or 17th?

Also the idea that Trever Lawrence andy dalton Goff and the other QBs above are ranked above Jimmy and even Cousins (who imo hasn't played amazingly but definitely well) is laughable it throws out the stat completely

they really need to rework that formula

Just need to wait for more data points.

No.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If TL is starting. Open question imo.

He's more than likely the starter in 2023.

This is nothing more than your speculation.

Unless Jimmy is staying for 6 mil again, he gone

I don't assume JG leaving means TL is starting

You don't have to assume, Trey is the starter

Lol no he isn't. We don't have a roster yet for the 2023 team, let alone a depth chart. Last offseason taught me not to be so cavalier with knowing what the team will do at QB. I thought they would move on from JG I was wrong 100%.

Originally posted by boast:
it's just another opinion but even Rich Eisen just said that if Jimmy wins the SB he's not going anywhere. says Jed will see the trophy being worth way more than three draft picks and run it back.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Passer rating has always been stupid. Every player always laughed about it. QBR is not perfect but it's a better metric. I'll trust the players and coaches when it comes to this.

which is more accurate

Daniel Jones is a top 10 QB or Daniel Jones is the 19th ranked QB
Derek Carr is a top 10 QB or the 16th ranked QB
Jacoby Brisset is a top 10 QB or the 18th ranked QB
Marcus Mariotta is a 11th ranked QB (LOL) or 17th?

Also the idea that Trever Lawrence andy dalton Goff and the other QBs above are ranked above Jimmy and even Cousins (who imo hasn't played amazingly but definitely well) is laughable it throws out the stat completely

they really need to rework that formula

Just need to wait for more data points.

No.

Yes. That's how this works. The main difference between passer rating and QBR—other than the fact that the former gives credit and blame to the QB that should go to the WRs—is that you can play a bad game and still have a high passer rating. For example, in the 2011-2012 NFCCG, Alex Smith had a 97.6 passer rating. And we were 1-13 on third down, and Alex was 9-23 for 84 yards on all but three passes. Passer rating is too limited to tell the truth about the quarterback.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
He has had 1 poor game this season and that was the DEN game. He has had a poor play here and there but other than that he has been solid this season.

I thought the KC game was poor it was mostly good but the bad outweighed the good making it not a good game. Go back and look at that INT from holding the ball not getting it out into the blitz. Also holding the ball, getting strip sacked. Finally, he got safetied from holding the ball in his own endzone which was clownish. The problems as usual stem from not getting it out quick, which I am noticing improvement recently. CMC effect helping as it is drawing the D away, opening up some space out there.

TW had his ass handed to him on that safety in the KC game. Yup. Jimmy threw an INT at the goal line. Like I said. He has had a poor play here and there and a poor game overall vs the broncos. Mostly, Jimmy has been solid though. His efficiency stats say so. The eye test says so. The W-L column says so. His teammates say so. His HC says so.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We can win 2 superbowls with Jimmy and posters will still be asking to improve the qb position.

It makes no sense

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If TL is starting. Open question imo.

He's more than likely the starter in 2023.

This is nothing more than your speculation.

Unless Jimmy is staying for 6 mil again, he gone

I don't assume JG leaving means TL is starting

You don't have to assume, Trey is the starter

Lol no he isn't. We don't have a roster yet for the 2023 team, let alone a depth chart. Last offseason taught me not to be so cavalier with knowing what the team will do at QB. I thought they would move on from JG I was wrong 100%.

Be prepared to be 100% wrong again

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Passer rating has always been stupid. Every player always laughed about it. QBR is not perfect but it's a better metric. I'll trust the players and coaches when it comes to this.

which is more accurate

Daniel Jones is a top 10 QB or Daniel Jones is the 19th ranked QB
Derek Carr is a top 10 QB or the 16th ranked QB
Jacoby Brisset is a top 10 QB or the 18th ranked QB
Marcus Mariotta is a 11th ranked QB (LOL) or 17th?

Also the idea that Trever Lawrence andy dalton Goff and the other QBs above are ranked above Jimmy and even Cousins (who imo hasn't played amazingly but definitely well) is laughable it throws out the stat completely

they really need to rework that formula

Just need to wait for more data points.

No.

Yes. That's how this works. The main difference between passer rating and QBR—other than the fact that the former gives credit and blame to the QB that should go to the WRs—is that you can play a bad game and still have a high passer rating. For example, in the 2011-2012 NFCCG, Alex Smith had a 97.6 passer rating. And we were 1-13 on third down, and Alex was 9-23 for 84 yards on all but three passes. Passer rating is too limited to tell the truth about the quarterback.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
saleh would probably give jimmy the bag for '23

If Jimmy plays like this the rest of the year there's gonna be a bidding war.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Passer rating has always been stupid. Every player always laughed about it. QBR is not perfect but it's a better metric. I'll trust the players and coaches when it comes to this.

which is more accurate

Daniel Jones is a top 10 QB or Daniel Jones is the 19th ranked QB
Derek Carr is a top 10 QB or the 16th ranked QB
Jacoby Brisset is a top 10 QB or the 18th ranked QB
Marcus Mariotta is a 11th ranked QB (LOL) or 17th?

Also the idea that Trever Lawrence andy dalton Goff and the other QBs above are ranked above Jimmy and even Cousins (who imo hasn't played amazingly but definitely well) is laughable it throws out the stat completely

they really need to rework that formula

Just need to wait for more data points.

No.

Yes. That's how this works. The main difference between passer rating and QBR—other than the fact that the former gives credit and blame to the QB that should go to the WRs—is that you can play a bad game and still have a high passer rating. For example, in the 2011-2012 NFCCG, Alex Smith had a 97.6 passer rating. And we were 1-13 on third down, and Alex was 9-23 for 84 yards on all but three passes. Passer rating is too limited to tell the truth about the quarterback.

More data points for a bad formula isn't going to help. You act like there aren't a s**t ton of examples of QB's with high QBR's who played terrible.